Do You Know Gay Men Who Are Macho?

[GL]

oh for god's sake! what the hell are you smoking?

why do you insist on putting all gay men into this tiney little box you think we all need to be in?

gay men can't be macho?

are we all supposed to be nelly boys dancing around and limp wristed?

all you do with your posts is keep stereotypes alive.

got off it. please.

 

[Marco Sensual]

oh for god's sake! what the hell are you smoking?

Nothing.I don t smoke,i don t take drug and i don t drink alcool.

why do you insist on putting all gay men into this tiney little box you think we all need to be in?

You misinterpret everything.

gay men can't be macho?

The way it looks its like you think that i said gay men are not masculine.I never said that.I said in the second post.I know most gay men are masculine.You seem to think that macho means masculine.Macho don t means masculine.Macho means straight men who wants to act like they are over the top manly.They wants to proof that they are not afraid of anything,they can t cry,they don t want to watch romantic comedy.At least if they are with their straight friends.Because macho straight men are suposed to watch action movies.When i talked about macho it was not about masculine men.It was about the way straight macho men act.In other words.Macho are fake.Straight men only act macho.Mostly when they are with their straight friends.If you don t understand that.Its your problem.

are we all supposed to be nelly boys dancing around and limp wristed?

No.

all you do with your posts is keep stereotypes alive.

got off it. please.

Not at all.If you read some of my other threads.You know that i don t like stereotypes at all.I don t like the stereotypes in movies.You know that very often gay men are wrongly portayed in movies.In movies you see very often men who are not masculine.Brokeback mountain is the exception.You see masculine gay men in that movie.You see that i don t keep stereotypes alive.Stop insulting me for no reasons.Read carefully.

I done nothing wrong.

You are the drama queen here.

 

[GL]

You are the drama queen here.

you know what? you're not worth the aggravation and the points that would come with it all.

 

[ThePrince85]

This about sums it up.

 

[quasar]

There are some threads that I open with nervous anticipation – and not in a good way.

This one has far exceeded my expectations, and reached the dizzy heights of god-awfulness which I had not previously considered possible, and shows ignorance and stupidity of monolithic proportions.

As a result of several of your threads appearing recently, certain posters on JUB - wankers though they are – now shine like brilliant beacons of success in this, frankly, strange world that Hot Topics sometimes morphs in to.

I look forward to your next thread which will no doubt be greeted with as much bewilderment and derision as this one.

This can however be avoided by NOT making sweeping generalisations or assumptions based on no facts other than the thoughts of you and your beloved, and you might perhaps try asking for opinions rather than stating it as a fact etched in stone.

One rule to bear in mind:- Put brain in gear BEFORE putting mouth in motion!

 

[mega]

softman should change his name to softhead....

 

[Marco Sensual]

You have a point. Macho and masculine aren't the same.

I know.This is what i said before.I was not talking about macho in the masculine way.But some misunderstood this thread and they are on their rampage.They insult me for no reasons.

When i talked about macho was about the way straight men act.Like straight men don t always show their emotions,they don t always cry when they watched sad movies,they don t want to show their vulnerability,they don t want to show that they can be afraid ect...

This is what i was talking about.

But some take it the wrong way and misinterpret everything.

The way they insult me its like they though i was saying that gay men are not masculine.Its not that at all.I said it before.I know most gay men are masculine.I don t like these stereotypes.

Its not about masculine.Its about straight macho men who very often act over the top with their manhood.

Most of you misunderstood that thread.

When i ask do you know gay men who are macho?I was not saying do you know gay men who are masculine.Some of you seems to interpreted that thread this way.Its not like that.I tough you know what i mean in saying macho.When i ask do you know gay men who are macho was do you know gay men who are macho in the same way of straight men.Like.Do you know gay macho men who don t want to show their emotions when they watch a sad movie,do you know gay macho men who kick their shoulders like straight men often do,do you know gay macho men who like cars and all things that are considered macho.

When i talked about macho it was that way.Theres nothing wrong in that thread.You only misunderstood everything.

If you don t understand the point of someone thread.Don t insult him.Ask him what do you mean by that?

I hope you get the point now.

Its not about gay men who are not masculine like you seems to think.Most gay men are masculine.My man is masculine,i m masculine and all my gay friends are masculine.

You have to read carefully.

 

[jsd62]

Someone's had a wee bit to drink, Me thinks.

 

[quasar]

...But some take it the wrong way and misinterpret everything...Most of you misunderstood that thread...When i talked about macho it was that way.Theres nothing wrong in that thread.You only misunderstood everything.

I refer to what Goula said earlier - which you have chosen to ignore. If the majority of people are misunderstanding what you are saying, then you are clearly not being clear in what you are saying. The fault is with you - not everyone else!

If you don t understand the point of someone thread.Don t insult him.Ask him what do you mean by that?

But all you do is re-iterate what you've said - you don't necessarily make your point any clearer.

You have to read carefully.

Again, you also need to read the comments carefully and respond to what people are saying to you. Most of the time, you only choose to quote 'positive' comments that you agree with or that back up your point of view. Your dismissal of negative comments by suggesting to the members that they are 'misunderstanding' your words is tantamount to saying that we're all stupid - which is no way to encourage reasonable discussion.

You really need to look closer to home before you start blaming everyone else for the lack of clarity in your posts and statements. YOU'RE doing the typing, not them!

 

[lyconthrope]

^^^^exactly.
I do realise that on this site there may well be people for who english isnt a first language so it can be tough to be understood sometimes.
but as has been said, you are ignoring when people try to point out that you are not being clear!

and just for the record, a dis-agreement or differing point of view is not an insult, do not disregard what other people have to say simply because it doesnt correspond with what you think.

and given some of the other threads you have started recently, is it any wonder this one got this kind of reaction?

 

[treanir]

[Monty Python's Lumberjack Song]

Oi!

I was about to post that

Guess I'll have a helping of popcorn instead

 

[Marco Sensual]

I refer to what Goula said earlier - which you have chosen to ignore. If the majority of people are misunderstanding what you are saying, then you are clearly not being clear in what you are saying. The fault is with you - not everyone else!
But all you do is re-iterate what you've said - you don't necessarily make your point any clearer.
Again, you also need to read the comments carefully and respond to what people are saying to you. Most of the time, you only choose to quote 'positive' comments that you agree with or that back up your point of view. Your dismissal of negative comments by suggesting to the members that they are 'misunderstanding' your words is tantamount to saying that we're all stupid - which is no way to encourage reasonable discussion.

You have to admit that most of you misunderstand this thread.You misunderstood the macho word for masculine when it was not about masculine.You insult me only because you disagree.You make all this drama for nothing.I m not the one in fault here.You are the one who misunderstood everything.I only made a simple thread.I talked about the point.I was clear and fair.

You really need to look closer to home before you start blaming everyone else for the lack of clarity in your posts and statements. YOU'RE doing the typing, not them!

Who does the blaming now?

 

[lyconthrope]

again you misunderstand what people are saying to you.

he is not placing blame! he was simply trying to explain why so many people may have misunderstood what you said and have taken it the wrong way.

you need to read more carefully what people actually say in their response to you

 

[Lalada]

I don't like popcorn.

But I think maybe macho is the wrong word here. I know gay guys who are like twice the size of the straight guys they watch hockey with, but it's really the straight guys who will jump or go "over the top" so to speak.

Something in the water I guess..

 

[lyconthrope]

^^^hehe you gotta love monty python

 

[Marco Sensual]

^^^^exactly.
I do realise that on this site there may well be people for who english isnt a first language so it can be tough to be understood sometimes.
but as has been said, you are ignoring when people try to point out that you are not being clear!

I only ignore those who insult me.If they don t insult me i will answer them.

and just for the record, a dis-agreement or differing point of view is not an insult, do not disregard what other people have to say simply because it doesnt correspond with what you think.

You insulted me.

QUOTE=lyconthrope seriously, whatever it is you have been smoking the last few days, it may be time to stop

QUOTE=lyconthrope ok dude, dont take this the wrong way...but.....are you cracked?!

I don t smoke and i don t take drugs.You will go nowhere with insults.If you want to talk you should say inteligent things.Not crap things like that.You see that you are the one in fault now.I m not the bad one here.You should think before posting.

and given some of the other threads you have started recently, is it any wonder this one got this kind of reaction?

You never ask what do you mean by that?

So you misinterpret everything.If really you would understand this thread you would never disagree with this thread.

 

[lyconthrope]

You never ask what do you mean by that?

So you misinterpret everything.If really you would understand this thread you would never disagree with this thread.

so, are you saying that if I understand the thread I am not allowed to disagree......and if I do disagree then I havent understood the thread?


I do understand what you are trying to say and I still disagree, it may be true for the small fraction of gay and straight men you have encountered but it not necessarily the same for all.

it has been said over and over, you are not listening!
people have valid counter points to what you have said and you are dismissing them all as wrong because they dont agree with you.

And I did not insult you, I made a few sarcastic comments about the thread content and general stereotypical views represented.
I never said you drank or did drugs of any kind, its called sarcasm, they are phrased used to indicate that you feel someone is being a big "off the wall" or eccentric.

I am at no fault, and I never said that you were. And you basucally just called me stupid and ignorant..."you wont get anywhere with insults"

and as for only posting when you have intelligent things to say.....who are you to decide if what I have to say is intelligent or not?
I think some of the things you have said are ignorant and mis-informed.

this is a public forum for two way discussion, like it or not you will enounter people who disagree with you, ignoring them is not the way to deal with them
and you can not tell them they are wrong because they dont agree with your views

 

[treanir]

you could post the alternate Eric Idle version of it.

Why post that when you posted the best version?

 

[mega]

This thread is like falling down a rabbit hole...

 

[treanir]

I know.

Isn't it HILARIOUS?

*hums Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit*