Do you know how to eat with Chopsticks?

[bankside]

A geologist would probably be concerned with cratons and basements and tectonic plates, and not care so much how a geographer divides the world into continents.

 

[Kulindahr]

Uncle Google knows alot, so also the url of the Oregon State University, see http://oregonstate.edu/ Besides that, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_State_University provides much information about the Oregon State University.

Kulindahr wrote as well:

Uncle Google can also find the WorldAtlas online. http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/imageh.htm provides insight insight in the situation of the hemispheres on Earth, and this does not agree with what you have learned during college.

However, the current online division of hemispheres according to the WorldAtlas online agrees with what Bankside has learned in Canada:

Kulindahr, would you mind to explain abit more in detail about this subject?
What kind of course have you followed on the OSU?
Would you mind to try and find some details of this course on the website of the OSU?

Thanks in advance for a reply.

What I found on WorldAtlas yesterday was a map of just what's between the Atlantic and Pacific. But when I google "western hemisphere" most of the results show that, too.

I took the first two terms of the geography sequence. Looking at the geosciences page at OSU, I see that they've reorganized the whole thing -- silly. These seem to correspond to what I took in geography and geology:

Top GEO 101 THE SOLID EARTH (4) Offered in current or future terms Baccalaureatte Core Course Has Extra Fees
Solid earth processes and materials. Earthquakes, volcanoes, earth structure, rocks, minerals, ores. Solid earth hazard prediction and planning. Geologic time. Lec/lab. (Bacc Core Course)

Top GEO 102 THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH (4) Offered in current or future terms Baccalaureatte Core Course Has Extra Fees
Processes that shape the earth's surface. Weathering mass movement, ice dynamics, biogeography, climate, surface and ground water flow. Use of maps and imagery. Lec/lab. (Bacc Core Course)

Top GEO 103 EXPLORING THE DEEP: GEOGRAPHY OF THE WORLD'S OCEANS (4) Baccalaureatte Core Course
Introduces non-science students to the oceans, including marine geology and chemistry, ocean currents, coastal and biological processes. Field trip required, transportation fee charged. Lec/lab. CROSSLISTED as OC 103. (Bacc Core Course)

Top GEO 201 PHYSICAL GEOLOGY (4) Offered in current or future terms Baccalaureatte Core Course Has Extra Fees
Study of earth's interior. Tectonic processes and their influence on mountains, volcanoes, earthquakes, minerals, and rocks. Field trip(s) required; transportation fee charged. Lec/lab. (Bacc Core Course)

Top GEO 202 EARTH SYSTEMS SCIENCE (4) Offered in current or future terms Baccalaureatte Core Course Has Extra Fees
Surficial processes (glaciers, rivers), climate, soils, vegetation, and their interrelationships. Field trip(s) required; transportation fee charged. Lec/lab. (Bacc Core Course)

Top GEO 203 EVOLUTION OF PLANET EARTH (4) Baccalaureatte Core Course
History of earth and life as interpreted from fossils and the rock record. Field trip(s) required; transportation fee charged. Lec/lab. (Bacc Core Course)

Top GEO 295 INTRODUCTION TO FIELD GEOLOGY (0-3) Offered in current or future terms Has Extra Fees
Two-week course taught in the fall program in various locations throughout the west. Collect field data to make geological maps, cross-sections, columns, and reports. Serves as an introduction to upper-level course work for Geology degree. Lec/lab. PREREQS: GEO 201 and GEO 202

Top GEO 301 MAP AND IMAGE INTERPRETATION (4) Offered in current or future terms Has Extra Fees
Reading, analysis, and interpretation of maps/remote sensing images used by geoscientists. Use of topographic, geologic, nautical and other geoscience maps; basic air photo interpretation. Lec/lab.

Top GEO 305 LIVING WITH ACTIVE CASCADE VOLCANOES (3) Baccalaureatte Core Course
The impact of volcanic activity on people, infrastructure, and natural resources; how and why volcanic activity in the Cascade Range occurs; volcano monitoring and hazard assessment. Field trip required, transportation fee charged. (Bacc Core Course)

Top GEO 322 SURFACE PROCESSES (4) Offered in current or future terms Has Extra Fees
Examination of surficial processes and terrestrial landforms of the earth, including slopes, rivers, glaciers, deserts, and coastlines. Field trip(s) required; transportation fee charged. Lec/lab. PREREQS: GEO 102 or GEO 102H or GEO 202

Top GEO 427 VOLCANOLOGY (4) WIC Core Course
A survey of volcanoes: their distribution, forms, composition, eruptive products, eruptive styles, and associated phenomena. Field trip may be required; transportation fee charged. Offered alternate years. Lec/lab. (Writing Intensive Course) PREREQS: GEO 315

Top GEO 481 GLACIAL GEOLOGY (4)
Mass balance of glaciers, physics of glacial flow, processes of glacial erosion and deposition, glacial meltwater, glacial isostasy and eustasy, and Quaternary stratigraphy. Field trip(s) may be required; transportation fee charged. Lec/lab. Offered alternate years. PREREQS: GEO 202


The descriptions there are all that's said about the courses.

I think they probably used the Americas / the rest definition of hemispheres because it doesn't slice continents into pieces, and when you're looking at geology and landforms, that's the way you look at them -- sort of like in the forestry courses I took, state and national boundaries were irrelevant; we divided the land into watersheds (same was true in surface geography & geology).

 

[Kulindahr]

A geologist would probably be concerned with cratons and basements and tectonic plates, and not care so much how a geographer divides the world into continents.

Yes. There were courses that studied single continental plates -- major ones, of course -- and even the tectonics of the SW Pacific area, where plates get crazy (one of the big reasons Japan gets so many quakes; there's at least one little plate down there that actually rotates because of the directions of the bigger plates around it; in fifty million years or so it will probably have been ground down to nothing).

I've been thinking that the definition using the meridians is a mapmaker's definition. It certainly makes no sense to a scientist.

 

[teadrinker]

I haven't followed this thread closely, and so I'm not quite sure how a discussion about chopsticks morphed into a discussion about plate tectonics. But it turns out that there are a number of competing definitions as to what constitutes a continent and how many there are, as you can read here.

-T.

 

[MoltenRock III]

I personally don't give a fuck if someone isn't interested in traveling the world, their country, their state/province, or even their own city. That said, I also will laugh, deride, and skewer, those same people who then go on to spew how the world works, when they've never been there, never will be, and only have excuses for why they don't possess a passport. Just the way I roll is all.

 

[zoltanspawn]

There was something about the tone of your posts that was bothering me, but until now, I couldn't figure out what it was.

But now, I do know.

It's just that you're deciding for everybody else, that they MUST travel, in order to enrich their lives enough to have some worth as a human being.

I take umbrage at that idea, Gendarmo. To me, it reminds me too much of religious people, who tell you what you must and must not do.

You ought to appreciate the difference between 'ought' and 'must' more.

People have opinions about what's best. What's the big deal?

You seem to think we MUST not express ourselves so...how very "religious" of you.

Please note, as you also intentionally mis-spell my username when you disagree with my posts, that Ganoderma's username isn't spelled as you have. It's petty and not clever.

 

[zoltanspawn]

This is one of the reasons I think all Americans need to get out and travel more.

I personally don't give a fuck if someone isn't interested in traveling the world, their country, their state/province, or even their own city.

I think you had it right the first time.

It's a popular quote for a reason:

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”
― Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad/Roughing It

 

[Ganoderma]

hi JohannBessler,

Please excuse me for some delay in providing you with a reply. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganoderma for some background information about my nickname. So it is just the scientific name of a genus of mushrooms. I tend to think that your nickname, JohannBessler, refers to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Bessler ?

MoltenRock III wrote:

I personally don't give a fuck if someone isn't interested in traveling the world, their country, their state/province, or even their own city,

and I fully agree with him.

I have several friends over here who are also not interested at all in travelling, and I have several friends who refuse to use a plane (environmental issues) when they plan a holiday. These people are very happy over here, and don't feel the need to visit foreign countries, though they don't lack resources (time and/or money) to visit any country they would like to visit. All of them don't fit any of the criteria in the phrase of Mark Twain ("prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness", thanks zoltanspawn), as otherwise they would not be my friends.


On the other hand, and please excuse me if I am wrong, I had the idea that you would like to visit countries outside the US, in particular countries in the central and eastern part of Asia (chopsticks is the topic), but that you had the opinion that you had not enough money to make such a trip.

So I intended to give you some options to cut costs. That's all. Your profile is hidden, and that's also the case for your blog. That's not important at all, but I had not yet a good idea about you, and I feel very sorry that your boyfriend needs so much care and that he is so sick that he is even unable to use a plane anymore.

Besides that, travelling by yourself does not need to cost alot of money. Quite a few Asian countries (eg India, Indonesia and Thailand) are very cheap, and easy to move around by yourself. In spring 2007, I was one month in Ghana (West-Africa). I had bought a return-ticket Amsterdam-Accra (KLM), a visa, and some malaria medicines. Within Ghana, I spend less then 500 euro during the whole trip (everything included, so food, visits, lodgings, travelling all around the country).

Best wishes, and feel free to ask more questions.

 

[zoltanspawn]

Johann, of course you will make such decisions for yourself in the end. No one could impose upon you the use of chopsticks (though it strikes me as an utterly reasonable cause for war. ) No one is forcing you to use less salt or visit Ouagadougou.

We are merely encouraging one another to think or act differently.

Persuasion is certainly one of principal ends of places like this intended for discussion.

I don't find your posts harsh or offensive.

If anything, I think your description of MoltenRock as an adoring older woman who chides us for our salt intake quite benevolent.

 

[Kulindahr]

Ganoderma, I believe I spoke a little bit too harshly in my last post. ^^The softer approach works better, anyway, doesn't it?

It's rather like an older woman, who adores you, but tells you,"Whoa! You're putting too much salt on your food!" or "Do you really need to eat that Macaroni and Cheese? It's full of cholestrol."

I'm sure that's happened to all of us in here.

And we're flattered, in a way—the woman means well—but on another level, we're irritated. We'd rather decide for ourselves how much salt to put on our food.

Foreign travel is like that.

I know the other posters mean well—and indeed, maybe we DO need to travel outside our borders more—but in the end, most of us would rather make that decision for ourselves.

I wish you all well, and hope my words didn't offend too much. I have a tendency to "pop off". I'm working on it, guys.

Brings to mind a moment...

I was camping, and a bunch of people were sharing one fire. A guy sitting next to me practically poured salt on the steak he'd just grilled. In astonishment, I asked, "Do you know that much salt is bad for you?" He said, "Yep -- sure do." I blinked at that response, and said, "Okay -- just wondering if you knew."

 

[Ram]

*bump*

Mods, it's time to sticky the thread.

 

[Ram]

I will never let this thread die now. I am enlightened. My entire world and existence is centered around Asian cutlery now.

Everything, from God to our cells, can be traced by to chopsticks.

Slowly, we will be covering the meaning of life and soon the idea of chopsticks will very well shake the foundations of what we know about the origin of the universe.

Sticky the thread.

 

[Kulindahr]

Today I ate mac and cheese with chopsticks.

 

[sokker]

nop.. no idea.. then again, I've probably only eaten Chinese food once or twice in my life.. lol. I eat noodles and stuff, but I don't really count that as Chinese, I use a fork to eat it anyway, no chopsticks

 

[les jones]

I can use chopsticks with ease

 

[Sam Blum]

I can eat pizza with chopsticks. Or (O)hashi as they are called in Japanese. I love my chopsticks and have collected some really beautiful pairs over the years.

 

[Ram]

Why are people talking about chopsticks in a chopsticks thread?

 

[Sam Blum]

I haven't followed this thread closely, and so I'm not quite sure how a discussion about chopsticks morphed into a discussion about plate tectonics. But it turns out that there are a number of competing definitions as to what constitutes a continent and how many there are, as you can read here.

-T.

Interesting that there could be less than seven, perhaps even four. Since the plates of Europe and Asia push against each other, and they both move differently to the African plate, as the North and South American plates move independently to each other so far as I'm aware, I don't see how there could be anything less than seven. And four just sounds like a person trying to say, "Foreign countries - nah, they're all the same."

 

[LilBit]

I eat Ram's pussy with chopsticks.

 

[zoltanspawn]

At some point this thread prompted me to image-search pornography including chopsticks. I thought I could crack some dumb joke.

It only led me to wonder, What the fuck is wrong with people? once again. Why why why why why?

Don't do it.

On the other hand, in the process, I found this amusement. I wouldn't click if you have a very sensitive nature.