Do You Mind Being Called 'Girl' ?

[fetaby]

you need to learn how to respect other people's opinions.

or he could bite their hand off.... either way works apparently... no big. yup.

 

[refujiunderground]

or he could bite their hand off.... either way works apparently... no big. yup.

i was being sarcastic. for real, i'm literally looking around thinking of what to say because i'm at a loss of words right now. apparently, sarcasm and joking is not very big in here. you didn't really think i was getting that heated over being called girl, did you. it's really not that serious. i'm not going to smack you or bite your finger off for calling me girl. i stated why i don't like the word but i'm not going to act all crazy over that shit if i get called that. i'll just brush it off and act like i wasn't called that even though i don't like that word and i'll just explain to someone to not call me that because i don't like it. that's it. sometimes, i swear.... man. i should probably try my luck in acting because i know how to come across angry or happy when i'm not even that.

learn how to not take things too seriously or to laugh once in awhile. geez.

 

[HunterM]

sometimes, i swear.... man. i should probably try my luck in acting because i know how to come across angry or happy when i'm not even that.

learn how to not take things too seriously or to laugh once in awhile. geez.

Pfft...You don't need to act. You have PMS.

 

[fetaby]

If you say so....


From what you've said about yourself, and how you've built a false persona to parade in front of your friends and family so they would have no idea about you being gay? Yeah. I do believe you'd get crazy if somebody called you a girl IRL.

I'd have to meet you IRL, and then call you a girl to find out though. And TBQH, I can't be bothered. It's enough to be entertained by your crazy show here. So thanks!

 

[refujiunderground]

Pfft...You don't need to act. You have PMS.

pms? as i said before, sarcasm and joking is not very big in here and every single time i see someone like SLOPPYSECONDS or even karen walker make threads which are obviously trolling or intended to be funny or just plain mindless bullshit, it's funny seeing how people take it literally instead of just taking it for what it is.

dayum, once again, learn how not to take things too seriously and laugh once in awhile before i bite your fingers off.

 

[refujiunderground]

If you say so....


From what you've said about yourself, and how you've built a false persona to parade in front of your friends and family so they would have no idea about you being gay? Yeah. I do believe you'd get crazy if somebody called you a girl IRL.

I'd have to meet you IRL, and then call you a girl to find out though. And TBQH, I can't be bothered. It's enough to be entertained by your crazy show here. So thanks!

please do not talk about my situation being that you cannot respect it. i'm sick and tired of some of you guys feeling the need to use the fact that i'm closeted as a means to insult me with. talk about ignorance. didn't you call somebody out for doing what you're doing now.

matter of fact, don't ever talk about me like you know me personally or even my situation. the only thing you're doing is just making yourself look stupid talking about someone you don't even know or haven't even met in your life. go ahead and respond to me with another crazy rebuttal embarrassing yourself.

You really have set up this persona of trying to be a highly macho, masculine man... all the way taking swipes at those who aren't and then saying you'll do physical harm to those who call you "girl". Get a grip.

matter of fact, this will be the last time i respond to this thread because i don't want to derail the thread worse than it already is.

it's called sarcasm. i was simply joking around by overexaggerating my annoyance towards being called girl. i don't know if you guys are doing this to joke around back with me or whatever but you guys need to stop and get a grip. dayum.... why the hell would i want to have somebody's nasty ass fingers in my mouth not knowing if they just took a piss or dug their nose or wiped their ass without watching their hands? you think i'm crazy enough to do that shit? i mean, dayum, i'm probably more sane than you are if you actually believe i would be stupid enough to do that over a simple word. stop insulting my intelligence.

 

[fetaby]

please do not talk about my situation being that you cannot respect it. i'm sick and tired of some of you guys feeling the need to use the fact that i'm closeted as a means to insult me with. talk about ignorance. didn't you call somebody out for doing what you're doing now.

matter of fact, don't ever talk about me like you know me personally or even my situation. the only thing you're doing is just making yourself look stupid talking about someone you don't even know or haven't even met in your life.

Why should I respect your situation when you don't even respect yourself? Why should I respect the fact that you can't tell the difference between someone making a comment and someone intentionally insulting you?

The only thing I can post off is what you've put out here. If you don't like that, then the only thing I can tell you is hindsight is 20/20 and next time choose your words more wisely.

I don't have to know you personally to know you're an asshole. And if you are as you claim, and all of this is merely one side that you don't let anyone else IRL see, then you're a disingenuous asshole.

But what I won't let slide right on by is you using your closet status as carte blanche to be that asshole. This has all of nothing to do with the fact that you're gay, and everything to do with the fact that you're unhappy. And that's your problem to deal with, so either deal with it and STFU or continue to get called out for being the asshole that you are.

And if you'll recall, I told that guy there was plenty of things besides you being closeted that he could use against you in an argument. You, in turn, don't get to use that same closet as a defense. It's on you if you think what you're doing is bad, I never said it was. Crazy? Fuck yeah. Bad? No.

The closet is bad. There is a thing is this world called necessary evil, the closet is one of those things. It fucks people up and it is no place to be if a person can avoid it.

So refuji, here's the challenge. You say you don't want to come out of the closet? Fine, be in the closet. Everywhere. Including here.... No more bullshit, whiny, homophobic, misogynistic posts in any threads that have anything at all to do with being gay, gay issues, gay culture, porn, how gay men relate to x,y, or z... If you want to be in the closet, keep it all in the closet... Cause this popping out long enough to show your ass is tired.

 

[jasoncrew03]

The only person who calls me girl is my sister, and she calls everyone girl.

 

[freefall]

you need to learn how to respect other people's opinions.

Or what? You're gonna bite my fingers off?

Many times your self-professed 'sarcastic jokes' are not even close enough to melt a snowflake let alone thawing Dante's 9th circle of hell.

Also, every joke contains 50% truth. Anybody knows that.

 

[72-Jay]

The closet is bad. There is a thing is this world called necessary evil, the closet is one of those things. It fucks people up and it is no place to be if a person can avoid it.

I know thats really meant for refuj, but...
The closet might be a necessary evil, that I could agree with.

I don't know that it necessarily fucks people up though.

Sometimes it is the best place to be and/or you can't avoid it.

 

[HunterM]

I don't know that it necessarily fucks people up though.

Sometimes it is the best place to be and/or you can't avoid it.

Yes, you are correct. Sometimes it is the best place to be. Then own up to it and don't be offended by it. It's like...I'm not offended when someone calls me "Dude"...because that's who I am. I'm not offended when someone calls me a "cock sucker"...because I do enjoy sucking cocks. Ain't that the truth!

A spade is a spade is a spade.

 

[80KGold]

You know what? I bet refujiunderground is drop-dead gorgeous. The wacko ones usually are.

That GIF of Conan is awesome!

 

[fetaby]

I know thats really meant for refuj, but...
The closet might be a necessary evil, that I could agree with.

I don't know that it necessarily fucks people up though.

Sometimes it is the best place to be and/or you can't avoid it.

It can be successfully argued that being in the closet is a "better" place to be, as opposed to say being killed like a gay Ugandan, or beaten like Brandon White from Atlanta.

But it is never the "best" place to be.

I don't know that it necessarily fucks people up though.

Then you haven't been paying attention. Take a peek down into the Coming out and relationship forum sometime and you can read for yourself thread after thread of closeted gay men with depression, anxiety, paranoia, and fear. Yes, we can segment and separate our lives into manageable bits. And for a lot of gay men other pieces of themselves take precedence over their sexual natures, I get that. But what I don't get is the wholesale denial that gay men don't have to develop and make visible those aspects of themselves and can still be considered on par with their heterosexual counterparts.

Helen Keller said it best...

"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. . .Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. . . Life is either a daring adventure or nothing."

 

[justdra]

It rarely happens. I usually get " bitch please" or something like that, rarely girl. It depends on the person, if I am around a very flamboyant guy and he uses that toward everyone, it won't bother me. I have had straight get offended if I say " bitch you crazy" or something like that, lol.

 

[refujiunderground]

i'm not going to quote everybody because there's too much to quote but all i have to say is that most of you are just looking for an argument and i have no time to argue today. go ahead and believe what you want to believe. you STILL do not know me off of this website so you can go and shove all those assumptions you're making about me up your ass. how you're going to judge my personality off of a bunch of text? you serious? how are you going to tell me who i am, my situation and talk for me like you know me? and then even go as far as to talk about why i'm in the closet as if you know the people i'm dealing with or my parents? i'll repeat it again, if you do not want to understand my situation in which you do NOT, how about you shut up and leave it alone. talking about me hating myself. if you were in my shoes dealing with homophobic parents, a father who has possible mental issues, around homophobic family members, coworkers and etc, you would be in the closet too. matter of fact, i think it's sad that someone who's gay can't even understand my situation of being in the closet. for real..... if there's anybody being an asshole, it's YOU.

lol @ fetaby saying that he doesn't have to know me personally to know that i'm an asshole. and this is off of what? threads and posts. it's really not that serious, breh. maybe you need to get some fresh air or whatever. you're an asshole for acting like you know me offline off of this site.

 

[refujiunderground]

Do we need to? We only interact with you on the website, and on the website, you tend to come off as an overreacting, aggressive, dramatic queen. Just sayin'

but still...

aren't there threads which are about "does your online persona matches your offline persona?" that right there should give you a clue.

with that said, the internet and the offline world are two different places. it would be foolish to judge someone personally as if you actually talked and hung out with them from a bunch of text on a keyboard. you simply can't judge. that's the truth.

 

[refujiunderground]

I guess those huge walls of texts you post never include anything about your home life or project anything about your personality. If you don't want people "assuming" things about your sexuality or why you're in the closet then shut up about it.

That's gonna come off mean, but I don't really care. You get all aggro in threads, deflect and tell people they constantly got it wrong. That would only be true if it was only a user or 2, but countless of people feel this way about you. All these users aren't getting anything mixed up, you just don't like that it's brought back at you.

If you don't want people getting on you about any of this, take of step back and change your attitude. Otherwise, stop being a coward and own up to your actions and move on.

what's funny is how i just stated something simple and yet it's getting all blown out of proportion. i simply stated that i don't like being called girl and said whatever here and there and all of a sudden, i see a whole lot of tear jerking.

 

[ibill1]

Refuji, here is how I see it. You are probably a nice guy, I don't know you, but everyone gets the benefit of that unless proven otherwise. The closet is yours of the making, and that is OK if at this time in your life and your current circumstances dictates that this is the best course of action for you.

The problem arises if you bitch and moan about it. If you need to be there then embrace it and live within its constraints as best you can until you can change it. I came out very early in life at 17 when it wasn't an easy thing to do. You are correct if you state that I don't know your culture etc., this is true. In reality, I don't need to. The closet is the closet and as different as there are guys who feel they need to stay there. I believe if you make the time there a little more positive then when the coming out occurs it will be that much easier for you. You are in the closet now, you feel you need to stay for the time being, then fine. I just hope you can realize that this is okay for now and that it is not anyones business when you decide to exit. Just realize no one put you there but you.

 

[tbtmo02]

i dont like being called girl thankfully i dont get called it at all. I dont even letmy friends call me there gay best friend

 

[fetaby]

what's funny is how i just stated something simple and yet it's getting all blown out of proportion. i simply stated that i don't like being called girl and said whatever here and there and all of a sudden, i see a whole lot of tear jerking.

"I don't like being called a girl." is a simple way of stating you don't like being called a girl.
Your post here...

go ahead and call me girl and see if i don't bite your finger off. fuck it, i'll take the whole hand then. i was born with a dick. don't get cute with me because i'm gay.

is anything but simple.

But the reason I find you so entertaining is this part here...

said whatever here and there

Who said whut?

it would be foolish to judge someone personally as if you actually talked and hung out with them from a bunch of text on a keyboard. you simply can't judge. that's the truth.

If it's not you typing into the keyboard, then who is it? Some persona you've made up? To what end? Depending on the answer you're either a troll or disingenuous. If it's a) then you deserve no respect, if it's b) then why are you acting offended?

Why do you keep replying back to the so-called "tear-jerking" if it's so off base and isn't connecting with the core of what you've been bringing to the table here? If it isn't you, then why do you keep coming when called?

Shakespeare: Methinks the lady doth protest to much.

That's the old English version of bitch, please....

As for the closet mess? You're not closeted here. You don't get to pretend to be the victim here. You're not the only gay in the village here. You're experience, while unique, is not uncommon here. Don't even try to play that "you all should be the most understanding of my predicament" card here.... You're being gay has nothing to do with you being an asshole here.

It may be a convenient excuse for you to not have to deal with your problems, but it is not the cause of your problems.