Do you think Egypt and the middle east are

[Telstra]

apart of European history ?
If yes or no, why are there so many fantasy movies about Egypt/middle east?
And the stars are mostly Europeans like this movie below LOL

 

[gsdx]

'Apart' or 'a part'? They are two entirely different things. Which one do you mean?

 

[Cormac135]

Blame Napoleon

That movie looks fucking terrible, can't wait.

 

[Telstra]

'Apart' or 'a part'? They are two entirely different things. Which one do you mean?

I think they are the same but i'll choose
"a part of " then

 

[gsdx]

I think they are the same but i'll choose
"a part of " then

They are not the same thing:

'A part' means 'one of a group'.
'Apart' means 'separate from'.

You still don't own a dictionary, do you?

 

[Telstra]

They are not the same thing:

'A part' means 'one of a group'.
'Apart' means 'separate from'.

You still don't own a dictionary, do you?

Stop knit picking, i already choose "a part of" ....

Now, just answer the question if you care

 

[Rickrock]

That is hard to answer. I guess that they are part of the Aryan race and European history was greatly influenced by the history of the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans, as well as of the Jews.

 

[LittleDove]

Depends on what you mean, and when.

When did the Europe you mean come into being? Egypt in the reign of Thutmose III, who died sometime between 1450 and 1425 BC, depending on how one counts, had cultural exchanges with Crete. At that time, Europe couldn't really be said to exist, outside of random conglomerations of howling barbarians, in most places. From the time of the conquests of Alexander the Great down to the Arab conquest, I'd argue that Egypt and the Middle East were, for the most part, part of the West or Europe. Likewise, the short-lived Crusader Kingdoms were part of the West, or Europe.

So it depends on what period of time you consider, and just what you consider as being Europe or the West.

 

[JPGhost]

That movie is so politically incorrect. Like JUB

 

[Telstra]

Depends on what you mean, and when.

When did the Europe you mean come into being? Egypt in the reign of Thutmose III, who died sometime between 1450 and 1425 BC, depending on how one counts, had cultural exchanges with Crete. At that time, Europe couldn't really be said to exist, outside of random conglomerations of howling barbarians, in most places. From the time of the conquests of Alexander the Great down to the Arab conquest, I'd argue that Egypt and the Middle East were, for the most part, part of the West or Europe. Likewise, the short-lived Crusader Kingdoms were part of the West, or Europe.

So it depends on what period of time you consider, and just what you consider as being Europe or the West.

According to that trailer video,
all the actors are European, but the movie is about Egypt and i assumed they play Egyptians lol
But Egyptians don't really look like European.

 

[kallipolis]

But Egyptians don't really look like European.

This is your real focus.

It's a film that is made to entertain, not to address accuracy, otherwise the language used in the film would be the language of ancient Egypt, not English.

That the ancient Egyptian characters are portrayed by human beings, who are not ancient Egyptian recognises that beneath the surface human beings are very similar.

As a result of invasions, and population movements today's Egyptians, and the Egyptians of four thousand years ago may well be less similar in appearance.

Did you know that several of the ancient Egyptian pharoah dynasties were ethnic Greeks, such as Cleopatra?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Egypt

I quote:

Greeks have been present in Egypt since at least the 7th century BC. Herodotus visited Egypt in the 5th century BC and claimed that the Greeks were one of the first groups of foreigners that ever lived in Egypt.[3] Diodorus Siculus claimed that Rhodian Actis, one of the Heliadae, built the city of Heliopolis before the cataclysm; likewise the Athenians built Sais. Siculus reports that all the Greek cities were destroyed during the cataclysm, but the Egyptian cities including Heliopolis and Sais survived.[4]

 

[kallipolis]

Post Scriptum:

Here's a further quote from the cited Wikipedia article, illustrating the influence of one foreign group (the Greeks) on ancient Egyptian civilisation:

A History of Mathematics: An Introduction, p. 184. Addison Wesley, ISBN 0-321-01618-1: "But what we really want to know is to what extent the Alexandrian mathematicians of the period from the first to the fifth centuries C.E. were Greek. Certainly, all of them wrote in Greek and were part of the Greek intellectual community of Alexandria. And most modern studies conclude that the Greek community coexisted [...] So should we assume that Ptolemy and Diophantus, Pappus and Hypatia were ethnically Greek, that their ancestors had come from Greece at some point in the past but had remained effectively isolated from the Egyptians? It is, of course, impossible to answer this question definitively. But research in papyri dating from the early centuries of the common era demonstrates that a significant amount of intermarriage took place between the Greek and Egyptian communities [...] And it is known that Greek marriage contracts increasingly came to resemble Egyptian ones. In addition, even from the founding of Alexandria, small numbers of Egyptians were admitted to the privileged classes in the city to fulfill numerous civic roles. Of course, it was essential in such cases for the Egyptians to become "Hellenized," to adopt Greek habits and the Greek language. Given that the Alexandrian mathematicians mentioned here were active several hundred years after the founding of the city, it would seem at least equally possible that they were ethnically Egyptian as that they remained ethnically Greek. In any case, it is unreasonable to portray them with purely European features when no physical descriptions exist."

 

[rareboy]

I don't think that Egypt and the Middle East are part of European history.

I know they are part of European history.

 

[LeicsDom]

apart of European history ?

Neither is in Europe

 

[Telstra]

oh i forgot,
the bible ... the Exodus across the red sea ...etc

Now i'm curious, why is it called Red sea ?

 

[kallipolis]

^According to the experts:

The Red Sea is so named because of algae called Trichodesmium erythraeum, found in the sea. When these blooms of algae die, they appear to turn the sea a reddish-brown colour. Perception is an eye opener.

 

[rareboy]

Red Sea is a direct translation of the Greek Erythra Thalassa (Ερυθρὰ Θάλασσα) and Latin Mare Rubrum (alternatively Sinus Arabicus, literally "Arabian Gulf"), Arabic Al-Baḥr Al-Aḥmar (البحر الأحمر) or Baḥr Al-Qulzum (بحر القلزم), Somali Badda Cas and Tigrinya Qeyyiḥ bāḥrī (ቀይሕ ባሕሪ). The name of the sea may signify the seasonal blooms of the red-coloured Trichodesmium erythraeum near the water's surface.[4] A theory favored by some modern scholars is that the name red is referring to the direction south, just as the Black Sea's name may refer to north. The basis of this theory is that some Asiatic languages used color words to refer to the cardinal directions.[5] Herodotus on one occasion uses Red Sea and Southern Sea interchangeably.[6]

Historically, it was also known to western geographers as Mare Mecca (Sea of Mecca), and Sinus Arabicus (Gulf of Arabia).[7] Some ancient geographers called the Red Sea the Arabian Gulf[8] or Gulf of Arabia.[9][10]

The association of the Red Sea with the biblical account of the Israelites crossing the Red Sea is ancient, and was made explicit in the Septuagint translation of the Book of Exodus from Hebrew to Koine Greek in approximately the third century B.C. In that version, the Hebrew Yam Suph (ים סוף) is translated as Erythra Thalassa (Red Sea). (See also the more recent suggestion that the Yam Suph of the Exodus refers to a Sea of Reeds). The Red Sea is one of four seas named in English after common color terms — the others being the Black Sea, the White Sea and the Yellow Sea. The direct rendition of the Greek Erythra thalassa in Latin as Mare Erythraeum refers to the north-western part of the Indian Ocean, and also to a region on Mars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea#Name

 

[Benvolio]

The repeated invasions and partial conquests of Europe from the Middle East together with their conquest of Christian inhabited areas in the middle east have greatly influenced European history. The Turkish invasions at one point got almost to Vienna and did subjugate Greece and end the Byzantine empire. The Crusades, attempting to retake the Christian Holy Lands, subjugated by the muslims, was a major influence throughout the middle ages. Historians often define the Middle Ages as beginning with Pope Urban's call for the first Crusade. The expulsion of the muslims from Spain was the major turning point in Spanish history, and made possible the financing of Columbus.

 

[MrRochesterNY]

Stop knit picking, i already [STRIKE]choose[/STRIKE] chose "a part of" ....
:

How do you pick while you knit? GSDX is right. You don't own a dictionary ... or if you do, you can't read it. I know, you don't read at all; you only watch visuals, and get all your "education" from there. What a shame! And it shows.

P.S. (explanation): Nits, not knits, are tiny lice that some people have to pick off their body hair. Hence, "nit picking."

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Blame Napoleon

if nappee offa bowl creamsee milk sphinxee gon giv bit a info
_but nappee a not_

ans there ya go

tinku