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Do you think it is a shame to use other ethnic backgrounds family name ?

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Example:
All the Filipinos use Spanish surnames ... etc.
All the Malaysians use the arabs surnames ... etc.
All the Pakistanis use arabs surnames ... etc.
Why can't they use their own surnames names ?
Were the above people also slaves in history ?



Exclude African Americans because i understood their history.
 
Not all Filipinos have Spanish surnames... ;) In the case of the Philippines, I don't think it's a shame. It's the past. It's history. There were many Spanish influences from the language to the cuisine. If anything, it makes things interesting.
 
You have to consider colonisation. In India, there is a large province that was settled by Portuguese settlers hundreds of years ago. Thus the Indians from that area have Portuguese names and most are still Roman Catholic.

Also in India it was somewhat common to wager your family honour. If you lost the bet you had to change your family name to that of the winner's. That's how it was explained to me by a Handsome Seikh guy with the name Macpherson. For real! Don't laugh.
 
mikey3000 said:
You have to consider colonisation. In India, there is a large province that was settled by Portuguese settlers hundreds of years ago. Thus the Indians from that area have Portuguese names and most are still Roman Catholic.

Also in India it was somewhat common to wager your family honour. If you lost the bet you had to change your family name to that of the winner's. That's how it was explained to me by a Handsome Seikh guy with the name Macpherson. For real! Don't laugh.
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Macpherson ? LOL, that is a Scottish name.
Using other ethnics names sort of delete their ancestries.
I guess Genetics and looks solved that problem. :)
 
thatgirl said:
No, I don't see it as a big deal. In my culture, it's common to have a mix of traditional ethnic names & non-traditional (which have been around for so long now that they might as well be considered traditional at this point). We've had a lot of Middle Eastern influence.



These are Islamic countries. It's common for non-Arab Muslims to take on Arab names-- it's not required, it's basically a tradition.
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ummm i disagree. It might be forced to convert.
 
mikey3000 said:
You have to consider colonisation. In India, there is a large province that was settled by Portuguese settlers hundreds of years ago. Thus the Indians from that area have Portuguese names and most are still Roman Catholic.

Also in India it was somewhat common to wager your family honour. If you lost the bet you had to change your family name to that of the winner's. That's how it was explained to me by a Handsome Seikh guy with the name Macpherson. For real! Don't laugh.
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Vietnam is the same way with the French "influencing" them.

I will say, if I ever get married, I will change my last name. Reckon it is swapping one Irish last name for another. I kind of wish I could have been given my mom's Polish surname (she kept her name) but oh well.
 
Where are you situation thatgirl?

I've found the same with many Asian Muslims EXCEPT for many of the Muslim Indonesians. Malays I meet tend to be a mix of Asian style names and a surname/nickname/etc brought in from being muslim, eg Moh'd/mo'hd however you spell it, as in shortened version of Mohamed.


thatgirl said:
No, I don't see it as a big deal. In my culture, it's common to have a mix of traditional ethnic names & non-traditional (which have been around for so long now that they might as well be considered traditional at this point). We've had a lot of Middle Eastern influence.


These are Islamic countries. It's common for non-Arab Muslims to take on Arab names-- it's not required, it's basically a tradition.
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@Telstra, oh bullshit.

I've travelled throughout Indonesia, dabbled a little bit in Malaysia and a few other SE Asian countries. I'm Christian and never had any dramas related to race or religion there. You would probably find as I did in Indonesia, that many of the Muslim youth especially are 'paper-muslim'. As in, how you might be christian because your parents were, and it is something to list for 'religion' but you do not really follow it devoutly. Considering the strong history that the Islamic religion has, why is it even a surprise that common names throughout the faith would be in these countries. It is like me being called Christopher, or someone calling their child Noah.

Going further from that, seeing as half of our given names are really based off popular Jewish names, does that make us forced Jews?

Looking at my name from an outside perspective it would seem equally as "forced". I am apparently bearing/carrying Christ in my heart, yet when you meet someone in the street called 'Chris' do you instantly think that? My parents didn't, they thought it was a nice name that suited me better than Andrew.


Telstra said:
ummm i disagree. It might be forced to convert.
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Telly, have you considered their ancestry lines and chances of interracial marriages? Because that played a big part here.

I mean, in my country, native people uses Arabic surnames, then suddenly there are blasts of people using Western surnames. A typical result of Asian women marrying Western dudes :roll:
 
People really only have control of their children's first and middle names. I don't think someone is going to make the conscious decision to really go through the process of changing their family surname just because it came from slavery/colonization etc. I can't really speak on the topic as my surname is legitimately English and my granddad is from U.K. - However....I don't object to people using the surname that they have been given.
 
It is interesting how cultural differences reveal differences of opinion about what constitutes a "good name." I know I'm influenced by it.

I instinctively react against names that sound like everyday words because "that's just not a name." Names are supposed to be abstract and unique to humans, if not the individual. People aren't supposed to be named after objects, it's demeaning. And yet that is the exact opposite of how many cultures have decided on the issue. It's one of those things that honestly doesn't matter intellectually, yet it still kind of stuns the mind when you come across it. And it makes me wonder if I go to a community where people share names with everyday objects and they might think to himself "What does his name even mean? It's just some random word that has no roots in the language." Of course they would be totally wrong :twisted: and my subjective culturally-insulated opinion is totally right :king: but they still might think it. And calling your child "Happy Blossom" is just wrong.

Also, I don't enjoy "made-up-sounding fake names." It has been common in the younger generation to "give my child something unique." I appreciate that in principle, but they don't research some long-forgotten legitimate name that sounds good and has a bit of history to it worth reviving. They just string together random syllables or pick supposedly unique names that for some reason all sound predictably the same. Can't stand it.

I vote that all parents should have to apply to me personally for a permit before they're allowed to name their children. All in favour?
 
I could be a Schmidt, a MacGowan, a Kovar, or a Kowalski, but instead I'm a Smith.
 
Anyway, all children should use the mothers surnames because it is more accurate.
You never know if her husband is the real father.
 
bankside said:
Also, I don't enjoy "made-up-sounding fake names." It has been common in the younger generation to "give my child something unique." I appreciate that in principle, but they don't research some long-forgotten legitimate name that sounds good and has a bit of history to it worth reviving. They just string together random syllables or pick supposedly unique names that for some reason all sound predictably the same. Can't stand it.

I vote that all parents should have to apply to me personally for a permit before they're allowed to name their children. All in favour?
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The 20 Most Bizarre Celebrity Baby Names

:lol: some pretty fucked-up names heh? ](*,)
 
BTW, since people aren't restricted to "dating within their race" any more, how do you pick the "proper" ethnic background for your name?

How about people pick a new surname when they get married? (not a fake made up one, but one of their own choosing).
 
Telstra said:
I don't think they are fuckedup names.
They will thank their parents later for their unique names.
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Well, if my parents named me Blanket OR Moxie Crimefighter OR, even worse, Savior God Scientist Allah, suppose I could self-blow myself, I would totally do it.
 
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