Do you think the world is better off without religions ?

[Saybrooke]

Such as ... ?
and no religion don't have moral guidelines ?

BTW, the department of education want to teach ethnics but the religious (mainly the Christian and Muslim leaders) opposes it.

Treat your fellow man as you want to be treated, respect for others, love above all else, that sort of thing.

 

[Telstra]

Treat your fellow man as you want to be treated, respect for others, love above all else, that sort of thing.

That is not from religion.
That is from Confucian Wisdom (philosophers)

 

[kallipolis]

That is not from religion.
That is from Confucian Wisdom (philosophers)

So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. ~Matthew 7:12

or

Do to others as you would like them to do to you. ~Luke 6:31

 

[Telstra]

So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. ~Matthew 7:12

or

Do to others as you would like them to do to you. ~Luke 6:31

That is common sense, morals & ethnics should be taught.
Don't need religion to setup moral standards.

 

[kallipolis]

That is common sense, morals & ethnics should be taught.
Don't need religion to setup moral standards.

If you say so, it must be so. Your input is noted.

 

[Saybrooke]

That is common sense, morals & ethnics should be taught.
Don't need religion to setup moral standards.

That's fair, you don't, but it is a great catalyst for it

 

[zoltanspawn]

I think the OP has religion confused with christianity.

Only a couple of us regulars don't confuse religion with christianity.

 

[Jacquemar]

Lets say for example that there are individuals who interpret scriptures to fit their Theology or Ideology, or to their own whims, and yet what they practice what is contrary to their interpretations. This is why it isn't good for an individual to interpret scriptures, unless they have something to back it up. I am happy to say that the Catholic Church has the practice of listening to the Holy Spirit's promptings, etc. The reason why they Have the Mass of the Holy Spirit within a Conclave, or before a gathering for a major Council, such as Prior to Vatican II which went from 1962-1965. Vatican II is a Pastoral Council and the past councils were Dogmatic. To get a fair idea of what is Right and Proper requires me to do further research and prayer on the subject. I will get into this more as I do some research. Just remember that some of us use common sense, and pray before we open our big mouths. Humility, and even Obedience to God are virtues of Religion that takes a lot to put into practice, and the Fundamentalist Christians are terrible at it, and make irrational judgements, etc. I promise research and cannot say when I'll be done with it.

Frankly, you went WAY off into left field there and didn't provide the information I'm looking for; I can't answer your question yet.

 

[marqau]

I voted no. The question is stupid. We all have a world view and values influenced by our culture, personality and experiences. Whether or not they are based on a particular religious tradition like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism etc. doesn't matter. It is still religion. Anyone that voted Yes to this question shows that they have a set of values, and whether you like the word or not, that is religion.

If you think you don't believe in anything and you have a completely unbiased view of reality directly to your consciousness, any psychologist will tell you that you are delusional.

 

[Telstra]

I voted no. The question is stupid. We all have a world view and values influenced by our culture, personality and experiences. Whether or not they are based on a particular religious tradition like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism etc. doesn't matter. It is still religion. Anyone that voted Yes to this question shows that they have a set of values, and whether you like the word or not, that is religion.

If you think you don't believe in anything and you have a completely unbiased view of reality directly to your consciousness, any psychologist will tell you that you are delusional.

Set of values = religion ?
your definition what is a religion is different from mine or other people then.

 

[kallipolis]

Set of values = religion ?
your definition what is a religion is different from mine or other people then.

The Ten Commandments:

I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not kill.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.


"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10

 

[Telstra]

The Ten Commandments:

I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not kill.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.


"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10

What is the point of this post?

oh about set values?, as long as you cross out all the supernatural stuff (unproven info) i would agree with most of them but depends on the situation.

 

[zoltanspawn]

My personal notion of what religion is coincides more with Telstra on this point. I think it's possible to have a set of values and live irreligiously. What distinguishes religion for me is that a set of values must be held with such conviction that there is a sense of the sacred.

For many reasons, I suppose, people live their lives with no sense of sacredness.

 

[Jacquemar]

religion - Bing Dictionary
re·li·gion [ ri líjjən ]

1. beliefs and worship: people's beliefs and opinions concerning the existence, nature, and worship of a deity or deities, and divine involvement in the universe and human life
2. system: an institutionalized or personal system of beliefs and practices relating to the divine
3. personal beliefs or values: a set of strongly-held beliefs, values, and attitudes that somebody lives by

Synonyms: faith, belief, creed, conviction

Bing Dictionary

I much prefer Merriam-Webster's definitions:

(1.) a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency of agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral governing the conduct of human affairs.

(2.) a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects.

(3.) the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices.

(4.) the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.

(5.) the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observances of faith.

(6.) something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.

Pulling information off of the internet is not always a wise thing to do. Bing's definition carries no weight of scholarship.

 

[Jacquemar]

If you think you don't believe in anything and you have a completely unbiased view of reality directly to your consciousness, any psychologist will tell you that you are delusional.

Really??? Please give the name and contact information of a certified psychologist that will tell me that what you said equals delusion actually equals delusion.

 

[Jacquemar]

I much prefer Merriam-Webster's definitions:

(1.) a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

(2.) a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects.

(3.) the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices.

(4.) the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.

(5.) the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observances of faith.

(6.) something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.

Pulling information off of the internet is not always a wise thing to do. Bing's definition carries no weight of scholarship.

I'm correcting my post.

 

[kallipolis]

What is the point of this post?

oh about set values?, as long as you cross out all the supernatural stuff (unproven info) i would agree with most of them but depends on the situation.

You pertinently choose to qualify The Ten Commandments, and The Beatitudes by stating that you would agree with most depending on the situation.

In so stating, you categorically declare that your choice to obey The Commandments, or not will depend upon the situation.

Humanitarian values per The Ten Commandments, and The Beatitudes are not negotiable when recognising them as values which serve the common good of all mankind. This would include our self. Thus each of us benefits when respecting each commandment.

To pick, and choose such values to suit our whim, even our personal self interest speaks to our willingness to ignore fundamental laws of human behaviour, thereby abusing our fellow man to serve our selfish aims.

Society ensures that there are penalties/deterrence for murder, theft etc. knowing that The Ten Commandments are for most people a matter of personal selective convenience not dependent upon faith in God.

Those who of us who love God, and are in a personal loving relationship with Him are motivated by love of Him, rather than in any thought that obeying the commandments is our motivation. Here lies the difference in behaviour between those who live a spiritual life, and those who do not.

 

[kallipolis]

I voted no. The question is stupid. We all have a world view and values influenced by our culture, personality and experiences. Whether or not they are based on a particular religious tradition like Christianity, Islam or Buddhism etc. doesn't matter. It is still religion. Anyone that voted Yes to this question shows that they have a set of values, and whether you like the word or not, that is religion.

If you think you don't believe in anything and you have a completely unbiased view of reality directly to your consciousness, any psychologist will tell you that you are delusional.

Correct.

No human being lives their/our life without the influences of social engineering, of our parents, of our siblings, friends, acquaintances impacting upon our choices, and actions.

Through life's experiences each of us learns to fathom how best to make sense of our life's journey of self discovery, and in so doing learn to live in freedom to become true to our self.

Our process of self realisation takes us our life time.

It is the journey, and not the destination that equips us to better know our self, and become that person.

 

[jmadaf]

My answer is yes
because religion would be replaced by philosophers, ethnics ... etc which are much kinder and softer ... without referencing the bible which is mainly about war at that time.

My answer would be no, because without religion, those people would have their own agenda. Just look at when everybody thought the world was flat, ideas would be majority rules.

 

[FirmaFan]

My answer would be no, because without religion, those people would have their own agenda. Just look at when everybody thought the world was flat, ideas would be majority rules.

I think that what you just described is a world RULED by religion, not absent of it.