Doctor Who Season 3

[Homoaffectional]

So why was she moved to Torchwood? If she was SO good she would still be in Doctor Who. I didn't see them getting rid of Billie Piper after one series.

Um, Billie Piper left of her own accord, as did Freema, apparently, because if they really "got rid" of either of the two, neither of them would be invited back, which both are. I'm sure you know that Martha will only be appearing in three episodes of Torchwood, but five episodes of the fourth series of Who, which goes against your assertion that she was "moved", or that the audience. According to you, if you're on the series for a certain amount of episodes/and or seasons, it's because the audience likes you, and if you're not, they don't. Love to hear your explanation for this one, though I can already predict what you're going to say next. BTW, I'm sure you also know that Freema does have other acting commitments, as well.

Again, do you have any actual statements by someone involved with the production backing up your apocryphal assertions that "the audience" said so and so was not liked by them, and so and so companion was "gotten rid of", or so and so was "moved to Torchwood"? You'll pardon me if I don't take your word for it.

 

[screwnutty]

GUYS! please.

Look Freema left because of other commitments. She is doing a three part episode on Torchwood that will in all likely hood cross over to the five remaining doctor who episodes in season 4. Storywise...she left because of her attraction to the doctor and him not paying it back to her. But when she meets up with the doctor again, she's apparently seeing or married to a guy (maybe the one from the season three ending!) and she's now a full fledge doctor. She's finished her training and is a different person.

Something big is going to happen with the Season 4 ending. The doctor is suppose to have 2 female companions and a guy companion. Plus there's the rumour that billy is coming back for the season 4 ending too. The rumour is already out there that Darvis is back for the ending. So that means the Daleks are back too...and if rose comes back then the cybermen are back too. Something bad is going to happen to the fabric of space if rose can come back. It should be exciting and I can hardly wait!

 

[Homoaffectional]

GUYS! please.

Look Freema left because of other commitments. She is doing a three part episode on Torchwood that will in all likely hood cross over to the five remaining doctor who episodes in season 4.

Thanks. That's what I heard, so I wasn't going to buy someone's attempts to project their personal dislike of the actress/character onto the "audience", or somehow asserting that she was "gotten rid of" or "moved to Torchwood".

I'm sure you know that Martha will only be appearing in three episodes of Torchwood, but five episodes of the fourth series of Who

That should be...

I'm sure you know that Martha will not only be appearing in 3 eps of Torchwood, but five episodes of the fourth series of Who

 

[Angelfan]

so I wasn't going to buy someone's attempts to project their personal dislike of the actress/character onto the "audience"

I've got nothing against Freema. You don't know me so you can't presume to know if I have a personal dislike for someone. Obviously from your comments you know everything about Doctor Who and are always right. Are you part of the production company yourself?

 

[Homoaffectional]

I've got nothing against Freema. You don't know me so you can't presume to know if I have a personal dislike for someone. Obviously from your comments you know everything about Doctor Who and are always right. Are you part of the production company yourself?

Hah! Hardly. But I don't need to be, because I don't claim to know that someone left the show, temporarily or otherwise, because TPTB were making that decision based on their attempts to interpret the audience's wishes. As to "not knowing you", I know you well enough to know that you feel the need to 'correct' or "clarify" things whenever you feel you can or "should". It seems there are times you would benefit from a taste of your own medicine.

As for my comments, they began when you spoke for "the audience". If you don't like people "presuming" to speak for you, imagine the arrogance of speaking for an entire audience, and then making a feeble attempt to reinforce your assertion when you were called upon it. Do you see how the two principles are connected? Perhaps you can't, because it's OK when you do it...

Don't speak for the "audience", and I'm sure people (myself included) will be courteous and not presume to speak for you.

 

[Angelfan]

You sound such a wanker!

 

[Homoaffectional]

You sound such a wanker!

LOL. You know someone's lost the argument when one has to resort to personal insults, grammatically incorrect or otherwise.

OK, it's all right. I'll accept that you withdraw your statement that the "audience" wanted Freema out as Martha, but wanted her back in the very next season, for some odd reason. Having gotten that out of the way, we can look forward to new exciting storylines with Martha and all the rest. We're all fans of Freema, here, after all, are we not?

What I find cool is that, apparently, they're going to explain why Martha and Adeola (from the episode "Doomsday") look exactly alike. It's not the "cousin" explanation we got from that one novel (which some people have decided to add to Wikipedia as definitively canon).

Of course, Angelfan, as big fans of Freema, we both know the real "reason" that Adeola and Martha look exactly alike was naturally because fans liked her appearance as Adeola so much, they demanded that Freema be brought back as the Doctor's next companion after Catherine Tate turned the producers down, of course, right?

Check it out...

Why Martha Looks Like Adeola, Or Maybe Not!

While it’s been a long standing occurrence on television, and Doctor Who in particular, for actors and actresses who play a small part on a show to come back later as another character (the sixth Doctor for example) some viewers initially were perplexed at the idea of Freema Agyeman being announced as Martha Jones so soon after they saw her perish as Adeola Oshodi.

It’s been said there would be some kind of (brief) explanation as to why Martha will look like Adeola, and now the folks at SFX believe they have discovered it within their preview copy of the first new Doctor Who novel featuring Matha: “Made of Steel” by Terrance Dicks (available 1 March under the “Quick Read” programme). But books are not necessarily considered “canon” (fact) in the Who universe and this revelation contradicts what Freema has said in interviews!


In “Made of Steel” Martha Jones says:

“My cousin - Adeola. She worked at Torchwood Tower. She never came home after… I just wondered if you might have seen her. She looked a bit like me.”​

So there you have it, or maybe not! In a recent interview Freema says:

In the last series you played a character who was killed by Cybermen, Martha isn’t related to that character, is she?​

“No, the writers have found a clever way around it.​

You’ll see!”​

So the mystery continues! We will only know for certain once we hear it with our own ears after the first episode in a month or two…


What do you think?

Do you believe​

Martha is Adeola's cousin?​

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• YES, the book is right
• NO, another reason
• (View Results)​

Link.

 

[screwnutty]

We're all fans of Freema, here, after all, are we not?

She's cool but she's no Sara Jane Smith!

Martha: I had a cousin, Adeola. She worked at Canary Wharf, never came home.
Doctor: I'm sorry.
Martha: [softly] Yeah.
Doctor: I was there in the battle... [depressed look]
Martha: I promise you Mr. Smith, we will find a way out. If we can travel to the moon, then we can travel back. There's got to be a way.
Doctor: It's not "Smith." That's not my real name.
Martha: Who are you then?
Doctor: I'm the Doctor.

I'm going to go with Cousin on this one Alex for $100.00 dollars!

 

[screwnutty]

Who Needs Another Doctor?!

HOLY COW!!!

I have got to see this somehow!!!

The Tenth Doctor meets the Fifth Doctor.

David Tennant's Tenth Doctor is set to meet Peter Davison's Fifth Doctor in a special scene commissioned for BBC One's Children in Need.

The scene, entitled Time Crash, was written by award winning Doctor Who writer Steven Moffat, and will transmit as part of the Children in Need fundraising evening on Friday 16 November 2007.

"It is an honour for me to be able to make the connection between the Fifth Doctor and the Tenth Doctor," noted Peter Davison. "However, now is not the time for sound-bites. I can feel the hand of history on my shoulder, even if I can't do the buttons up!"

Look out for more coverage on the site nearer the time - and don't forget to support Children In Need and donate on the night!

Who needs another Doctor link

 

[tze100]

Yes yes yes yes this is fantastic, I think Peter Davison was really good as the Doctor, although having said that I am biased as he's the only one of the first eight I've really seen! There's something to look forwards to on Children in Need night (seeing as I'm not so psyched up about the Spice Girls any more).

As regards Martha, I think the writers were to blame, they could have made her a good contrast to Rose but they made her really hung up on the Doctor week after week. Hopefully the break will stop all that and Freema will get to show a bit more range!

 

[Angelfan]

I'm going to see Peter Davidson in Spamalot next month.

 

[screwnutty]

Just got done watching "Time Clash".

It was amazing! Even if it was only 7 mins long. Peter Davison was amazing. I felt like I was 9 years old again watching him go about the tardis with his celery stick pinned on his coat!

They also explain why he's a little heavier, can't do up the jacket, losing his hair and his face has gotten older. Along with the grey hairs. How they do this was funny. Yeah it had something to do with the known universe about to blow a hole in the space time barrier. A hole the same size as the landmass of Belgium! LOL

I'll try to put up a youtube clip of it when somebody posts it to you tube....or if you know what to do and where to do it.... just search for Doctor Who Time Crash Children in need special.

 

[Homoaffectional]

Anyone who hasn't been able to view it so far can do so here.

Yes yes yes yes this is fantastic, I think Peter Davison was really good as the Doctor, although having said that I am biased as he's the only one of the first eight I've really seen! There's something to look forwards to on Children in Need night

It works out well for me, because I have been downloading most of the old Peter Davison eps, and really enjoying most of them, so it's a good refresher before seeing him meet "himself" again.


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Just saw it. Loved how the Doctor hinted that the Master's wife was a "beard"... ehehehe

The explanation for the Fifth Doctor's aging was a bit weak, but it's worth it to see more than one Doctor within the same episode of the show again...

Has David Tennant ever said that Davison was his favorite of all the men who've portrayed the Doctor since 1963? That part seemed to be a bit of a homage to the actor's personal preference for his favorite Doctor back when he was a mere fan.

 

[Angelfan]

I liked how they "inserted" it into the last episode of the third series.

Just as an aside I'm going to see Davison is Spamalot in a couple of weeks.

 

[screwnutty]

Just saw it. Loved how the Doctor hinted that the Master's wife was a "beard"... ehehehe

Has David Tennant ever said that Davison was his favorite of all the men who've portrayed the Doctor since 1963? That part seemed to be a bit of a homage to the actor's personal preference for his favorite Doctor back when he was a mere fan.

LOL, I don't think they meant it in that way. All the 5th doctor said was "Does the master still have that dreadful beard?" and 10th says "No....but he has got a wife" Now to you and me we could find this funny but I think it was just a hint of things to come. Cause the wife is still out there with the master's ring!!

No David Tennant's favourite Doctor was Tom Baker. But the writer that wrote the script to Time Crash loved the 5th Doctor. Now Tennant did say once that his version of the doctor was the 4th and 5th combined.

Here's the youtube clip of Time Crash....that way you don't have to leave JUB!

 

[Homoaffectional]

LOL, I don't think they meant it in that way. All the 5th doctor said was "Does the master still have that dreadful beard?" and 10th says "No....but he has got a wife" Now to you and me we could find this funny but I think it was just a hint of things to come. Cause the wife is still out there with the master's ring!!

No David Tennant's favourite Doctor was Tom Baker. But the writer that wrote the script to Time Crash loved the 5th Doctor. Now Tennant did say once that his version of the doctor was the 4th and 5th combined.

Here's the youtube clip of Time Crash....that way you don't have to leave JUB!

Ah, thanks... wasn't sure if they had gotten it up there just yet, and whether or not the people that usually threaten to sue YouTube would make an exception for a charity special. When I was downloading it from one of the remaining torrents sites, it went as fast as 400 KB/s, so it didn't take very long, but there are a lot of peers and seeds out there. Definitely generated a lot of interest.

But I'm still sticking to my idea that they're hinting that the Master is gay for the Doctor, so screw you, nut, you "screwnutty"! LOL j/k

Thanks for the info about who liked Baker and who liked Davison and who liked the Baker-Davision hybrid.

Anyone hear the theory that the Master's wife was the Rani in human form?

 

[GL]

yay! thank you screwnutty!
thank you!
thank you!
thank you!

i loved it mucho. davison was always a favorite of mine so it was great to see him share screen time with tennant.

 

[Homoaffectional]

i loved it mucho. davison was always a favorite of mine so it was great to see him share screen time with tennant.

yeah, and it was also great to see his name in the title credits once more, almost as much as anything else. Whoo-hoo!! Started to watch it again, and just remembered that I hadn't posted that, having been distracted by the dialogue. Speaking of which...

All the 5th doctor said was "Does the master still have that dreadful beard?" and 10th says "No....but he has got a wife"

Ah, hah. This is how the exchange actually went.

"Does he still have that beard?"

"No... no beard. Well... a wife."

Wording is everything. It's all in the "well..." used in a lead-in from the last thing that was asked tone. ;-)

 

[Homoaffectional]

LOL, I don't think they meant it in that way. "[snip]beard?" and 10th says "No [Well,.... other stuff snipped] wife"

Ugh, was working on adding this to my last reply, but the paltry 20 minutes JUB gives you before the editing period expires... well, expired.

Anyway...

Plus, what correlation does a beard have to a wife? Why not say a "Toclafane" (I'm sure I butchered the spelling) or a stopwatch if he's just coming up with anything randon. The only connections the two words have is that a women that a man is married to when he's gay and using it as a cover... and since he was a politician, it would be more incumbent on him to be married, especially if he was an aspiring PM.

In any event, I loved the reference, even if it was just an in-joke that would never be followed up in the way we/I want to. And actually I don't think the Master is exactly a healthy role model for gay people so I can live with just the in-joke even if people use no more follow-ups as justification that that's not how they meant it.

 

[GL]

Ah, hah. This is how the exchange actually went.

"Does he still have that beard?"

"No... no beard. Well... a wife."

Wording is everything. It's all in the "well..." used in a lead-in from the last thing that was asked tone. ;-)

oh i thought that was brilliant!