Does college make you smarter?

[belamy]

No, it makes your more institutionalized.

First truly clever post from Pianist: and one of the cleverest EVER.

 

[Jersey Domino]

No, it makes your more institutionalized.

What do you mean by that?

 

[Forumatjub]

This has turned into nothing but semantics.

You can use any synonym you want and you can decorate it with any amount of nice diction.

College makes you smarter. Just like most other educational institutions. That's that

 

[belamy]

College makes you smarter. Just like most other educational institutions. That's that

1.-

2.- Does that also imply that the void that leave some educational institutions is made up for by other non-educational institutions?

 

[Eagle653]

Your question "does it make you smarter" is really the wrong question. The question you should be asking is "how can I compete and have a decent life without it?" If you can figure out a way, then go for it, but I doubt you'll be a better person because of it.

It will not make you "smarter." You're born with a given amount of smarts.

What it will do is make you more educated and refine the smarts you're born with into something that is useful to others who want to hire you. The more education, the more marketable you are.

It used to be, that a bachelor's degree was somewhat rare and made you pretty marketable. Then, so many got one that people started gettings Master's. Now, that's more the norm for a good job. Many of those are getting doctorates to distinguish themselves. You get the idea...without even a bachelor's, it's what a high school dropout used to be. So, if for no other reason, having it is pretty important if you want any kind of respectable job outside of being self-employed.

Apart from what classroom learning occurs, though, there are considerable social (and networking) advantages and the development of critical-thinking skills. It also provides a more global perspective (if you're at a good school), which is becoming even more critical in the emerging global economy.

 

[Triple G]

It's just four more years in the government indoctrination center.

 

[kallipolis]

I read somewhere (sorry, no citation) that 97 pct of American millionaires did not finish high school. I can't believe all those millionaires inherited their fortune from their parents.

But of course success in life is a matter of subjective thought, relative to the priorities we place on money, happiness, peace of mind, fulfilment etc.

For some people self esteem is a matter of the latest model of Mercedes, and the right house, in the right neighbourhood. For others it is a matter of being surrounded by family, and friends.

 

[Ekim23]

Well some already said it
dont think so...

The way u were raised, the way u are and the way you learn is what makes u smarter

Colleger just tries to put things in ur head and gives u a bachelor or sthg so u can have a "better start" as they say...

 

[Puzuzzu]

I love how everyone disregards my posts XD

 

[kevbo]

College teaches you how to function well with hangovers...

 

[relaxin13]

It makes you more focused in a particular field of study, and though you will likely improve your abilities in your field of choice, you may forget some of the things you had learned in earlier education. College does nothing to your potential intelligence, it just provides the tools necessary to put your brain to use.

 

[belamy]

I read somewhere (sorry, no citation) that 97 pct of American millionaires did not finish high school. I can't believe all those millionaires inherited their fortune from their parents.

But of course success in life is a matter of subjective thought, relative to the priorities we place on money, happiness, peace of mind, fulfilment etc.

For some people self esteem is a matter of the latest model of Mercedes, and the right house, in the right neighbourhood. For others it is a matter of being surrounded by family, and friends.

Becoming a multibilionaire is not complicated... difficult to some extent, but you don't need to think much: in fact, rather the contrary. You can have the shittiest project, the shittiest product but with determination, charisma and the right connections you are there.
The mind of an ambitious businessman is of the same kind of the mind of a religious or political leader, but maybe with less hot blood and even less adaptability: think a dinosaur.

 

[kallipolis]

well, yes, 50% of intelligence is genetic. the rest is gained, and higher education stimulates your brain, and allows more neural pathways to be built.

Education should add value to the life of the human person. That value should be demonstrated in the quality of life that the person lives. College, or school is but one factor, in life that inculcates life's lessons into our life's journey. It could also be said that our school/college days creates the foundation for our ability to better learn the lessons of our life.

It is when we engage with life that we realise that our formative years, in school and/or college merely serves, as the beginning of our process of discovery, of all that we will become,when learning from our journey in time.

A Greek philosopher said that our enthusiam to learn, is our acceptance that we know nothing. Thus it is when we have accepted our total ignorance, that we place our self in a position, to learn all that our life will teach us.

I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance.
~Socrates

Really, Ischomachus, I am disposed to ask: "Does teaching consist in putting questions?" Indeed, the secret of your system has just this instant dawned upon me. I seem to see the principle in which you put your questions. You lead me through the field of my own knowledge, and then by pointing out analogies to what I know, persuade me that I really know some things which hitherto, as I believed, I had no knowledge of.

~Socrates as quoted by Xenophon

 

[kallipolis]

Becoming a multibilionaire is not complicated... difficult to some extent, but you don't need to think much: in fact, rather the contrary. You can have the shittiest project, the shittiest product but with determination, charisma and the right connections you are there.
The mind of an ambitious businessman is of the same kind of the mind of a religious or political leader, but maybe with less hot blood and even less adaptability: think a dinosaur.

It might also be said that making money does not lead the money maker into living a life worth living for.

As you rightly say, making money, so often requires ignorance, as a means to make decisions, that lead to making money, and thus it is said of that wealthy person, that his wealth evidences his superior intelligence.

Wisdom teaches us that the wise man prefers to avoid being branded intelligent, for fear of having to prove that intelligence, is the result of being wise.

 

[belamy]

It might also be said that making money does not lead the money maker into living a life worth living for.

As you rightly say, making money, so often requires ignorance, as a means to make decisions, that lead to making money, and thus it is said of that wealthy person, that his wealth evidences his superior intelligence.

Wisdom teaches us that the wise man prefers to avoid being branded intelligent, for fear of having to prove that intelligence, is the result of being wise.

I wasn't making an estimation, I was reporting a fact.
Just like you don't need to know chemistry to be a good cooker, you don't need to develop very elaborate thinking to become a multibillionaire: that doesn't mean that if you are college educated and develop an extremely complex and slick business you can't become a multibillionaire, but simply it's not the common case because you don't need it. Making money can be as simple and silly as making thistles grow.

Ignorance is never "required", it's always there, with ALL of us, any time, but hopefully not all the time. Sometimes maybe appreciated, which would be your "required", but to say so is a semantic nonsense trying to reproduce the grammar of the expression "experience" or "education required".

On the other hand, being college educated only means that: it provides a social consideration and status in reference to certain other things that are supposed but, like in the case of the billionaires, are not necessarily, indisolubly tied to that status.

 

[kallipolis]

I wasn't making an estimation, I was reporting a fact.
Just like you don't need to know chemistry to be a good cooker, you don't need to develop very elaborate thinking to become a multibillionaire: that doesn't mean that if you are college educated and develop an extremely complex and slick business you can't become a multibillionaire, but simply it's not the common case because you don't need it.
Ignorance is never "required", it's always there, with ALL of us, any time, but hopefully not all the time. Sometimes maybe appreciated, which would be your "required", but to say so is a semantic nonsense trying to reproduce the grammar of the expression "experience" or "education required".

On the other hand, being college educated only means that: it provides a social consideration and status in reference to certain other things that are supposed but, like in the case of the billionaires, are not necessarily, indisolubly tied to that status.

I always consider your version of fact, as a calculated guess, rather than a firm foundation based in reality. My consideration is based upon extensive reading of your posts. I appreciate that this is my personal opinion, and in no way presumes to pass judgement upon your immaculate character.

When making decisions that lead to an end result, that betrays the lack of intelligence, in those decisions it may well be said that ignorance is a required attribute. But I can agree that ignorance is at epidemic levels among many people.

I can also subscribe to your opinion that a college education and money, are not synonymous, with a life that adds value to that wealthy person's life.

 

[geloge]

Quod natura non dat, Salmantica non praestat.

 

[belamy]

I always consider your version of fact, as a calculated guess, rather than a firm foundation based in reality.

A guess as much as that the sun will rise tomorrow: ultimately a guess, but with quite sound GENERAL (that is, experienced by anybody) experience to back it.

 

[belamy]

Quod natura non dat, Salmantica non praestat.

Praestat...

 

[kallipolis]

The things that nature doesn't give you. school cannot impart to you.

In other words.....

If you don't have the brains, then school will not assist you.

Far too much assumption.

Many people flunk high school and go on to become great men of the arts, science, politics etc.

Winston Churchill is but one, example.