DOMA Repeal Bill Coming Next Week

[scream4ever]

I didn't think New Jersey recognized out of state marriages. I know they have "everything but the title marriage" civil unions. Either way, it's pretty much a given that they will legalize gay marriage during the lame duck period in a couple months.

 

[Kulindahr]

HEY!

If you give gays the right to marry, then eventually they'll want to marry their dogs, and television sets and door knobs, and............

No one can give anyone the "right to marry".

Rights are ours; the fight is to get assholes out of the way and let us enjoy exercising those rights.

 

[Kulindahr]

HAHA! Yeah, that seems to be the general consensus and pathetic arguement of people that are against gay marriage.

My response to that one has become simple: you guys are allowed to marry females, but I haven't seen any of you marrying cows or bitches....


Around here that actually gets a laugh sometimes, because so many guys either (a) life on farms and have actual cows and bitches around, (b) refer to their wives as cows or botches, (c) both of those, or (d) they know guys who do. And any time you can get a laugh, you can get a listen.
Like, "Gays just want to be allowed to marry male bitches. <pause> And cows".

 

[Kulindahr]

She's a typical right wing attack dog that makes shit up as she goes along with, and when she's on FAUX she fits an agenda so is never questioned.

Hell little ole Elizabeth Edwards owned her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xYcUQiJ3sk

The trouble is that it's not apparent there, for many people, that she got owned.

I wanted someone to ask her, "What's so hard about answering the question? What's so hard about this that you keep changing the topic?" I had the urge to reach into the screen, rip off those tacky shades, grab her by that long hair, and ask her if she's smarter than a fifth grader -- 'cause she sure doesn't sound like it.

Frak, the students I had for remedial English reading and writing in college (kids who shouldn't have graduated high school) could mostly stick to a topic better than she did!

I read one book of hers once that had some great points in it, but she had to mire them down in lies, false citations, misrepresentations, etc. etc. She may have other good points to make, but I'm never going to hear them because I'm not going to read anything that requires four browser tabs open to search sources just to get through a page and find out if she's being straight with her readers.

And as for -- as Mrs. Edwards said -- hanging around with her, I think I really would rather have a cow in my living room than her.*













* Unless I could drug her so she'd actually listen and learn something.

 

[Kulindahr]

Occams Cajun, shame on you! You're raising Anne Coulter to the calibre of a dog? That's insulting to the dog lovers of the world!!!

Hear, hear!
(I plugged my dog's ears while I listened to those Coulter clips.)

On topic..... I'll be glad to see the DOMA ripped up and tossed in the garbage. My companion of 20 years and I would have loved to have been legally wed. We aren't second class citizens.

I was going to chastise you, but where my mind put "Coulter" you actually wrote "DOMA".

Personally, I'd rather see DOMA shredded and stuffed down the throats of all who voted for it -- not that they'd learn a lesson....

 

[Kulindahr]

Dan's family stuck up for me and told hospital administration they didn't want her around the ICU because they were afraid for their father's care while she was in there.

That is truly beautiful!

 

[Kulindahr]

DOMA repeal is being introduced with at least 76 co-sponsors today in the House.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Backers-of-gay-marriage-want-apf-1466947326.html?x=0&.v=1


The aim is clearly a movement to build momentum on the issue, not a serious attempt to hold a vote on a repeal.

They should -- since the right isn't going to go for it anyway -- point out that it is mislabeled, something that legislation sponsors sometimes do, for example the "USA PATRIOT" Act.

 

[NickCole]

Jockboy, sweetie.... please don't feel bad. I didn't want you to read it to make you feel bad.

I wanted to show people that two men can be as committed to each other as a man and woman, if not more.

I faced prejudice when Dan was in the hospital. One time in the ICU a homophobic nurse wanted to kick me out of the family waiting area, because I wasn't "family". Dan's daughter who he didn't have much of a relationship with told her to go away and leave me here because "CowboyBob is just as much family to Dan as I am". This cunt-nurse even tried to hassle me about the "evils of homosexuality" and I wasn't doing anyone a favor by being in the waiting room and I didn't have any right to be in there. Dan's family stuck up for me and told hospital administration they didn't want her around the ICU because they were afraid for their father's care while she was in there. I don't know what happened with her after that but I didn't see her again. This is just ONE example of some things that happened.

Legally, I had NO rights with Dan.... I couldn't make decisions for him even tho he and I were as much as married as your Mom and Dad are / were. If it were not for Dan's death we would still be together right now doing things. But as you mentioned and I said before, for 20 years I was the most God-dammed luckiest man on earth.

This so-called Defense of Marriage Act has got to go. It's nothing more than thinly-veiled hate.

I completely agree DOMA should be repealed.

But I want to point out, so others here will know, that you could have had the rights with Dan that you didn't. My bf and I have been together 18 years and we have documentation that protects our rights as partners, Last Will and Testament, Living Will, Appointment of Health Care Agent and Power of Attorney. We have copies of these at our homes (and we travel with them), in a safety deposit box and at the office of our Attorney. Obviously marriage would be easier but gay couples should know there are ways to at least protect our rights that you describe.

 

[NickCole]

^^^ It's being called the Respect for Marriage Act. What's so bad about that?

It's one of those buzz words/slogan things the Right always uses, and we should steal that trick!

I wish Barney Frank were supporting it.

But good for Jerry Nadler and the others.

 

[SonOfSlobone]

I'd like to be able to say this bill would at least force all the people who are on the fence to commit one way or the other. But unfortunately I have the feeling it's not going to make it to the floor of the House. We'll see.

 

[SonOfSlobone]

^^^I agree, but the other side of the coin is that no senator or congressmen is going to go out on a limb if they don't think their constituents are behind them. So a lot depends on how much noise gay people can make (and how many straight voters they can get to support them).

But I guess I agree with Barney Frank -- it's a waste of political capital to try to do this now. Let's keep going in the states, where we have momentum.

 

[Kulindahr]

How about we make divorce illegal? that would solve all the problems right there.

Nah.

Just tax it.

 

[scream4ever]

"Just tax it."

Now that would end the recession fast!

 

[Kulindahr]

"Just tax it."

Now that would end the recession fast!

Families who can't stay together
pay together.