"Donnie Darko" Sequel in the works...

[pacz]

Donnie Darko is one of my all time favorite movies! I cannot imagine that any sequal could be as good. Although, I will look forward to seeing this movie, I will not hold my expectations high.

 

[bostonboy20]

ugh...why must they ruin this amazing movie with a sequel? And Richard Kelley isn't involved at all?! I don't like the sounds of it to tell you the truth...but i'm sure I'll still see it

 

[falconfan]

Donnie Darko in my opinion is the single worst film ever made. It is the bane of my existence as a film student and I have gotten into week long debates over it's immense immense suckiness. The fact they're trying to make a second saddens/aggravates me to no end as an aspiring writer because it just outlines how little the business cares about a films quality just as long as they can get people in the seats.

 

[willsboy84]

Donnie Darko in my opinion is the single worst film ever made. It is the bane of my existence as a film student and I have gotten into week long debates over it's immense immense suckiness. The fact they're trying to make a second saddens/aggravates me to no end as an aspiring writer because it just outlines how little the business cares about a films quality just as long as they can get people in the seats.

so there IS someone else who doesn't get the hype about this movie!!!

 

[cAndId]

It would be a travesty to add a sequel to this movie. This movie is one of my favourites, they cannot possibly do a sequel justice.



I will watch it anyway and hope for the best.

 

[falconfan]

so there IS someone else who doesn't get the hype about this movie!!!

I feel it's very much at LOST in that it fools people to thinking it's well thought out and mind blowing when upon closer look it just doesn't make any god damn sense... plus it's really lacking in characterization

 

[Glafna]

I haven't seen the movie, but I've heard good and bad things. Honestly, I will probably see this, if it actually pans out, for the same reason I'm gonna see the Indiana Jones movie, because of the franchise, and the hype about it.

Honestly, how many crappy sequels have you seen, only because of the first one?

 

[Telstra]

i like that movie and that song "mad world" is so haunting.

its about mental health isn't it ?

 

[LiquidSky]

so there IS someone else who doesn't get the hype about this movie!!!

I saw the film before all the hype and loved it. I still love it. Excellent performances all around.

Autumn Angel kicks ass!

 

[LiquidSky]

I haven't seen the movie, but I've heard good and bad things.

You should rent it and block out all the hype. If you like offbeat movies, I'll bet you will like this one.

 

[Glafna]

that song "mad world" is so haunting.

It's a good song, and what really sucks, it didn't make it to the mainstream until it got on Gears of War.

 

[Críostóir]

I feel it's very much at LOST in that it fools people to thinking it's well thought out and mind blowing when upon closer look it just doesn't make any god damn sense... plus it's really lacking in characterization

Um.

Actually it makes TOTAL sense. You just haven't read enough time-travel stories. If you don't get it, just say you don't get it.

While I can see why people might not like it, everything in it fits together with an almost audible click by the end. Every BIT of it makes sense. (Of course, as far as we know there are no time-distorting storms, but having an impossible event as a key part of the plot is not the same as not making sense.)

 

[falconfan]

Um.

Actually it makes TOTAL sense. You just haven't read enough time-travel stories. If you don't get it, just say you don't get it.

While I can see why people might not like it, everything in it fits together with an almost audible click by the end. Every BIT of it makes sense. (Of course, as far as we know there are no time-distorting storms, but having an impossible event as a key part of the plot is not the same as not making sense.)

Yeah it makes perfect sense if you just accept that occasionally that dead people from alternate futures are able to reach back into alternate pasts and depart knowledge that they never even had in said alternate future to allign key characters into positions that appear to be important but literally have no effect on the outcome of events. And it make sense if you think someone in Donnie's position would actually mail the crazy old hag who wrote a book on time travel a letter rather than just f'in talking to her. And it makes sense if you think that goons hide in some woman's cellar for no apparent reason. And it makes sense if you're satisfied with getting a what to a key event of the story and not a how or why. Yup it makes perfect sense if you're willing to over look character and plot for the ingenious positioning of characters and props to look like there's some greater connectivity in the plot than there actually is.

 

[Críostóir]

I think you just didn't quite connect the dots on some of that. You do have to accept time travel and ghosts (and time-traveling ghosts) for the movie to work.

But I'm too tired to argue with you. If it didn't make sense, it didn't make sense to YOU. That's all.

 

[falconfan]

I think you just didn't quite connect the dots on some of that. You do have to accept time travel and ghosts (and time-traveling ghosts) for the movie to work.

But I'm too tired to argue with you. If it didn't make sense, it didn't make sense to YOU. That's all.

No It doesn't make sense period. I understand what they're trying to do. It just woefully fails. Much like the fact reality B is contingent on Donnie not being in his bed and that would only happen if a dead person from reality B came to tell Donnie to get out of bed which would be impossible because he didn't die in reality B to come back to reality A to say anything. The whole loop makes no sense because it originates from the outside rather than originating in A and then having some deviation that brings B into existence.

 

[Críostóir]

In reality A, Donnie is not in his bed. The result of that is that Frank, and Donnie's mother and sister, all die: Mom and Sis get on the plane that drops the jet engine into the house (after being ripped apart by the timestorm), and the main action of the movie happens, which ends with Donnie shooting Frank.

Frank becomes a ghost, and is able to travel back in time to tell Donnie when "the world ends" (i.e. Frank dies). After Donnie experiences the action of the movie, he gets caught in the outer edges of the time storm, and finds himself back in the morning the jet engine falls into his room, so he decides to prevent all the awful events of the movie by staying in bed.

Result: his mother and sister aren't on the plane (which still gets ripped to shreds by the time storm, because otherwise it couldn't supply the jet engine that falls into Donnie's room). Frank lives--but he's time-stable, like Donnie, so he remembers the other timeline, at least a little. Donnie's girlfriend is NOT time-stable, so she remembers nothing.

Downside: Patrick Swayze's character, the pedophile, never gets caught.

All time travel stories have these paradoxes, but DD works them out better than most. The weird thing is Donnie being out on the golf course in his pajamas that morning, not being in bed, so when he's in bed, that's the correct timeline.

In fact, it's possible that Donnie's whole time-stability/precognitive ability/whatever was disrupting the timeline, and the timestorm was actually a correction that designed to take Donnie out, repairing the damage he was causing. But that's kind of the advanced course in time travel fiction.

What doesn't make sense?

 

[Telstra]

It's a good song, and what really sucks, it didn't make it to the mainstream until it got on Gears of War.

its a remake of an old song and yeah i prefer this new version.

 

[falconfan]

In reality A, Donnie is not in his bed. The result of that is that Frank, and Donnie's mother and sister, all die: Mom and Sis get on the plane that drops the jet engine into the house (after being ripped apart by the timestorm), and the main action of the movie happens, which ends with Donnie shooting Frank.

Frank becomes a ghost, and is able to travel back in time to tell Donnie when "the world ends" (i.e. Frank dies). After Donnie experiences the action of the movie, he gets caught in the outer edges of the time storm, and finds himself back in the morning the jet engine falls into his room, so he decides to prevent all the awful events of the movie by staying in bed.

Result: his mother and sister aren't on the plane (which still gets ripped to shreds by the time storm, because otherwise it couldn't supply the jet engine that falls into Donnie's room). Frank lives--but he's time-stable, like Donnie, so he remembers the other timeline, at least a little. Donnie's girlfriend is NOT time-stable, so she remembers nothing.

Downside: Patrick Swayze's character, the pedophile, never gets caught.

All time travel stories have these paradoxes, but DD works them out better than most. The weird thing is Donnie being out on the golf course in his pajamas that morning, not being in bed, so when he's in bed, that's the correct timeline.

In fact, it's possible that Donnie's whole time-stability/precognitive ability/whatever was disrupting the timeline, and the timestorm was actually a correction that designed to take Donnie out, repairing the damage he was causing. But that's kind of the advanced course in time travel fiction.

What doesn't make sense?

What doesn't make sense is that Donnie's on the golf course in the beginning BECAUSE OF FRANK. Donnie's been having sleep walking fits that we later learn are guided by Ghost Frank and there is no given reason to believe these sleep walking fits exist independent of Frank. So the underlying chain of events shows that Ghost Frank CAUSES the very alteration in time that leads to Frank's death and his own existence.

You have the critical order wrong. You said the result of Donnie not being in bed is Frank. The CAUSE of that is Frank. Donnie is following ghost Frank's operatives to expose Patrick Swayze, to go to the golf course, to ruin the school etc... All these things lead to the end result of a party at Donnie's house and Frank's death. Essentially by following the operatives of Frank Donnie leads to the death of Frank which leaves us with a GLARING problem. Without Donnie's actions Frank wouldn't of died. If Frank never died he couldn't have given Donnie the operatives that ultimately lead to his death. The chain is fundamental flawed. While it's true that all time travels lead to instability paradox for it to make any god damn sense it needs to go this way. Person in the present travels back in time. Person does something to change history. In changing history said person sets a chain of events that leads to prevent their own initial time travel. This makes so history was never changed. But if history is never changed they ultimately change history. This leads to the instability paradox. This is NOT what happens here. Someone from an alternate reality (ghost Frank) engineers the events that lead to their very existence in that very reality. Ghost Frank engineers the death of real Frank which makes NO GOD DAMN SENSE because without the initial death of Frank Ghost Frank can't exist to guide Donnie and lead to the ultimate demise of Frank.

Now the filmmakers try to make this film appear to have a greater connectivity through props like the bunny outfit or putting Donnie's mother/sister on the plane but these things have no effect whatsoever on the greater scheme of events but because of their recognizability make it appear as if the movie is tying together when it quite simply is not.

 

[Glafna]

its a remake of an old song and yeah i prefer this new version.

I like both versions, with a slight preference to the newer.

 

[atomicXXbomb]

What doesn't make sense is that Donnie's on the golf course in the beginning BECAUSE OF FRANK. Donnie's been having sleep walking fits that we later learn are guided by Ghost Frank and there is no given reason to believe these sleep walking fits exist independent of Frank. So the underlying chain of events shows that Ghost Frank CAUSES the very alteration in time that leads to Frank's death and his own existence.

You have the critical order wrong. You said the result of Donnie not being in bed is Frank. The CAUSE of that is Frank. Donnie is following ghost Frank's operatives to expose Patrick Swayze, to go to the golf course, to ruin the school etc... All these things lead to the end result of a party at Donnie's house and Frank's death. Essentially by following the operatives of Frank Donnie leads to the death of Frank which leaves us with a GLARING problem. Without Donnie's actions Frank wouldn't of died. If Frank never died he couldn't have given Donnie the operatives that ultimately lead to his death. The chain is fundamental flawed. While it's true that all time travels lead to instability paradox for it to make any god damn sense it needs to go this way. Person in the present travels back in time. Person does something to change history. In changing history said person sets a chain of events that leads to prevent their own initial time travel. This makes so history was never changed. But if history is never changed they ultimately change history. This leads to the instability paradox. This is NOT what happens here. Someone from an alternate reality (ghost Frank) engineers the events that lead to their very existence in that very reality. Ghost Frank engineers the death of real Frank which makes NO GOD DAMN SENSE because without the initial death of Frank Ghost Frank can't exist to guide Donnie and lead to the ultimate demise of Frank.

Now the filmmakers try to make this film appear to have a greater connectivity through props like the bunny outfit or putting Donnie's mother/sister on the plane but these things have no effect whatsoever on the greater scheme of events but because of their recognizability make it appear as if the movie is tying together when it quite simply is not.

It appears to me that out of 27 posts, 3 people have said they didn't like the movie. Which puts you in the minority. With that said, you cannot make the assumption that the movie didn't make sense period. Many people who saw it obviously understand it. I saw it, many times, and I totally understand. Críostóir obviously understands it to. Now that there are AT LEAST 2 people who understand it, you saying the movie doesn't make sense cannot be correct. Let's see the possible outcomes: We both may be wrong on what the movie is about, but that still wouldn't prove you right, which is what you're yearning for. There is no way you can be right because if there is at least one person, and as of right now, there is 2, person who understands it, it cannot prove your statement true. It makes your statement an opinion because nobody is supporting it. What you should have said, like Críostóir said previously, is that the movie did not make sense to you. It DID make sense to me, and to Críostóir, and to thousands others. I don't wish to argue, I' just telling you the actuality of what you claim to be true.