Don't give up on Vista

[sheep]

 

[Jeimuzu]

I am forced to use vista for coding in. It has several little flaws which are causing havoc in university. For example, the log out button is hidden in a little menu, whereas lock is clearly visible, and - to the student unfamiliar with Vista - easily mistakable.

Not many students have a clue how to unlock a locked computer, which means that when a computer gets accidentally locked, we need to call in the network guys to unlock it. The IT support dudes happen to be at the other end of campus.

When more than two or three people have done it, it stops people getting work done. It's really annoying.

Also, EVERYTHING takes hours in Vista. It's full of inefficiently time-consuming bells and whistles, and for example, it takes over a minute just to close Visual Studio. No, not save, not compile, just close.

Also, visual studio keeps deleting my university work.

God, I'm sick of Microsoft. I never thought I'd say that. I don't even like Linux, and I'd like to see someone try and do my course purely with a Mac. However, Microsoft seem to take a lot of steps backwards.

HOWEVER! I don't actually like the way all the companies have this bitchiness between each other. It's quite irritating.

 

[-live-]

After using Crapple Macs for over 2 months now I can fairly say Vista is 100 times better.

And since Mitchell And Webb stopped doing them adverts they arent funny anymore.

 

[me12121]

Funny ad, but I've been using Vista for almost a year and love it for the most part.

 

[Matt1809]

I hate to break this to you, but many people I know have downgraded from leopard to tiger. I myself am considering it, the damn windowservice (whatever the hell that is) keeps eating up my processor when my computer comes out of sleep.

And apple needs to stop being such douchbags with their commercials. The mac dude comes off as a pretentious jerk.

 

[justgofaster]

^ Leopard was only released 26 October 2007. It's only been out 27 days! And almost no new machines have been sold with Leopard pre-installed!

How could "Many people I know have downgraded from leopard to tiger."? Leopard hasn't even been out for four weeks! People haven't even had a chance to get it, install it, and learn it yet! (I personally don't know anyone who even has it yet).

I am not a Mac user, but I hear almost nothing but good things about Leopard in the press. Conversely, most of the press on Vista is not very complimentary. Odd that you and your friends would abandon something you don't yet know anything about, and that professionals seem to think is very favorable.

I do know of some people who are fond of tossing out good stuff they don't know anything about and keeping dysfunctional stuff even when it is of proven incompetence. They are some friends of mine in Redmond, Washington. They work for Microsoft.

 

[andysayshi]

I hate to break this to you, but many people I know have downgraded from leopard to tiger. I myself am considering it, the damn windowservice (whatever the hell that is) keeps eating up my processor when my computer comes out of sleep.

And apple needs to stop being such douchbags with their commercials. The mac dude comes off as a pretentious jerk.

Hmmm, that's a shame for you and "many people". I am typing this on a 3 yr old PowerBook running Leopard. The upgrade experience is the easiest I've EVER had with any OS, and has worked flawlessly since day one. I'm a video motion graphics designer, so I push all my systems hard, and nothing has broken yet. Even the Adobe applications that Adobe say won't work well in Leopard, work well in Leopard!

I have many friends and colleagues already using Leopard in professional environments who have had no issues with the upgrade at all. (Personally, I always wait 3 months after release before even considering installing new OS or software on a working production system.)

I never heard of windowservice before, but I googled it and found 2 hits, neither of which related to Leopard. What specific problem are you experiencing? Perhaps the cause is unrelated to the OS?

I agree somewhat about the mac ads, though.

 

[Soilwork]

ERg.

I know that any new system is going to have bugs, but the problems with Vista that I've had (including it just being klunky and annoying) far outweigh any I've had with Leopard.

Hey.. buy what you like.

 

[winterknight]

Solution: Run Linux

 

[sheep]

I've heard good things and bad things about Leopard.

Good: it brings new life to older powerbooks. As with every new release of OSX, the performance improves.

Bad: That transparency thing. If anyone knows how to make it go away let me know so I can convert to Leopard.

The ugly: The worst thing is Apple released the OS to the 3rd party developers at the same time as to the public and with all the changes under the hood, some apps, utilities and haxies won't work until they are tweaked or re-written. I'm not switching till Alsoft updates Disk Warrior.
If I was a windows user hell would freeze over before I switched to Vista. It's even more *in your face* than XP.

 

[Matt1809]

I never heard of windowservice before, but I googled it and found 2 hits, neither of which related to Leopard. What specific problem are you experiencing? Perhaps the cause is unrelated to the OS?

Sorry I meant windowserver, and it is a part of OSX. And whenever I come out of sleep it begins to eat up my cpu, and my screen starts to studder. This is of course after OSX decides to take 30 seconds before it actually begins to sleep, and even if that all goes well airport randomly disconnects me every hour or so across a multitude of different routers. And I have a new santa rosa MBP, so this isnt some old clunker im running it on.

Meanwhile Vista installed on the same computer goes to sleep in <10 seconds and can actually stay connected to the internet. Plus it gets 45 FPS compared to 15 in OSX with the same damn settings. So quite frankly my experience with OSX has been crappy. Perhaps a mac genius can fix it, if not im just going to blast my osx partition.

 

[sheep]

Sorry I meant windowserver, and it is a part of OSX. And whenever I come out of sleep it begins to eat up my cpu, and my screen starts to studder. This is of course after OSX decides to take 30 seconds before it actually begins to sleep, and even if that all goes well airport randomly disconnects me every hour or so across a multitude of different routers. And I have a new santa rosa MBP, so this isnt some old clunker im running it on.

Meanwhile Vista installed on the same computer goes to sleep in <10 seconds and can actually stay connected to the internet. Plus it gets 45 FPS compared to 15 in OSX with the same damn settings. So quite frankly my experience with OSX has been crappy. Perhaps a mac genius can fix it, if not im just going to blast my osx partition.

Im not a genius but Im smart enough to say that your situation bears looking into.
Look at MacFixit
http://www.macfixit.com/
and Macintouch for any suggestions
http://www.macintouch.com/

My 5 year old G4 can do 60 FPS.
Getting disconnected is often the result of having a 2.4 MHz portable phone in the same area in which case you need to set the phone and Airport Extreme 5 channels apart to avoid interference.
Im not familiar with all the changes in Leopard but it is possible that before it invokes sleep it is saving your cache memory to disk. It's got to be doing something.
If the computer is new, it will be under warranty. Get in touch with Apple.
Any of youze guys have any suggestions?