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Drunk Man's Words/Sober Thoughts

Gemini_Valley

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"A Drunk Man's Words Is a Sober's Man's Thoughts"

Anyone believe in this saying?

I had once mentioned here about a crush I have been harboring. Yes, same old story: falling in love with a straight friend. Just a little back history, I have fallen rather hard for a friend that I have known for two years next month. (We met at our current job, a rather high upscale restaurant. He's a cook, I'm a server.) However based on everything that we have been through, not to mention all that I have done for him, you'd think we had known each other a lot longer. I have exercised a lot of myself financially & emotionally to him. As lame as it sounds I get a lot of joy helping others, especially those I care about and do not expect anything in return. The difference with him, I go above & beyond.

I know that I have put myself in a predicament that is just dumb. I do not want a relationship with him, I thoroughly enjoy my friendship and do not want anything to jeopardize this. Over the course of two years our friendship has grown leaps and bounds. We have confided in each other about a lot of things and he basically tells me everything going on in his life. I enjoy our rapport, we are almost like brothers we're so close. I know/met his sister, father, and his mom calls me her "adopted son." But like another saying goes: "You can't help who you fall in love with" -- a saying he fully believes in -- and have tried to curb my feelings for him in various ways. Yet I continue to hold this guy near and dear to my heart. Ugh, luv.

Greg and I have gone out various times, but it is only when we are in a group of others where alcohol and getting drunk is the main agenda. He, along with our group of friends like to drink, prides himself on having a high tolerance for alcohol. There have been two incidents where his true feelings for me came out after heavily drinking.

About three months ago I was planning on moving away to another city for a job, where I have two best friends that live in the same city. The plan was for me to roommate with one of them until I make enough money to get my own apartment. When I had told him this his reaction was that I should keep in touch and then tells me he would like to move with me for a "fresh start." (Days later my plan to move fall through.) Couple of days later, a group of about six of us go out for drinks, we then continue the drinking at a park in the wee hours of the morning. Greg gets really drunk, to the point where he can barely keep his balance. I have been out with him drinking before but never seen him in this state.

One by one everyone begins leaving due to it getting really late, and at one point it was just he and I in the park. (Our designated driver was dropping off various people.) Greg asks me, after a series of questions, "Who is moving?" I did not respond. He asks me to repeat after him. I do so. He then tearfully asks me the same question. I reassure him that things would not change between us just because I'll be in a different city and that he can call on me when he needs me. The next day we talk about what happened and he claims to not remember a thing of what happened. No crying, nothing. He "blacked out."

Recently four of us go out to a club and again drink heavily. A mutual friend of ours and Greg get into an argument after Greg calls himself trying to play match maker. As we're all getting ready to leave Greg takes off across the street and I chase after him. He once again becomes emotional and tells me to go and that he'll find his own way home. I tell him that's not going to happened so let's go. He refuses, I then ask he's going to act this way with me after everything we've done and been through. I proceed to tell him that I care about him, he says he does too and that I know in my heart that I do. I then tell him no I don't because whenever he contacts me it's only when he needs something (e.g. a ride, or money) and that I feel more like an ATM than an actual friend. Getting emotional again, he tells me there are two people in his heart: his girlfriend of just under a year and me. He ranks me as his #1 friend.

Later on that night/early morning, he text me as I'm on my way home to call him once I get there. I do, and we talk for about 40 minutes on the phone and he again reassures me that values me immensely. He even brought up him crying in the park, citing that as an example, of how much I mean to him. As we hung up the phone he told me "I appreciate you."

The next day I ask if he remembers anyting, he says no, but knows he acted a fool. He blacked out. The was the extent of the converstation about that night.

There's a lot more that I have left out, but that's the gist of it. How should I feel about this? Am I wrong for loving this guy the way I do? Is there something between us? It's no longer just one sided, right? Before these incidents I started to hate myself (and Greg) for falling for him. I really felt as though I was being used. Had he not been heavily drunk I never would have known he felt this way...
 
No problem. :)

Maybe because I have convinced myself so much that he wouldn't be interested in me, is the reason I don't want to engage into anything physical with him. I guess I wouldn't mind a little fun if he initiated it, yet I'm not wishing upon a star for it to happen either.

Ah! I'm conflicted about what we have. Bromance? I have put myself on an emotional roller coaster for this guy. I've never been so into a friend like this before. I've been doing everything I can to curb my feelings. I have hung out with him a lot less, I have even requested my days off to be switched so we no longer have the same days off. I'm even seeking employment else where.
 
If it's at all possible, try controlling your feelings until the situation has a bit more definition. Have you considered telling him how you feel? That may push him away, but it may be the step he needs if he does want more, but if both of you remain silent it could always be stalled. Try to keep your feelings in check and remember that this may just be a good friendship.

More or less I have. We had a conversation about love. I had confided in him that I'm in love with someone that I can't have but won't act on my feelings because I don't want things to become awkward. Plus the person is in a relationship and isn't fair. So I'm sure he is aware of my attraction to him in some capacity. Granted I didn't come out and say it, but I'm sure he read between the lines. We have told each other (sober) "I love you" but in the way a brother would to another, I feel.

In that early morning phone conversation he had told me that his girlfriend senses he has someone else in his heart and that she was right, because it's me. I told him he should fully start loving her. He said "maybe" he would. So I'm not trying to take advantage of the situation at all. It's funny because days before we went out, he told me she was "trippin' for thinking I have someone else in my heart. If she keeps this up, someone else will." Now I know I'm the "other" person.

To give you an image of what he looks like he is a combination of John Stamos meets Mario Lopez. He's a handsome man and girls usually flock to him. He, however, doesn't view himself as being physically attractive. He insist it's his personality more than anything else and that he isn't good-looking. I've complemented him on his looks numerous times. Also in that early morning phone conversation, which was just less than two weeks ago, his low self-esteem issues came up.

I very much appreciate him as a friend first and foremost and don't want to lose his friendship. Another reason I'm not willing to become more that if the opportunity arise.
 
wow, I kinda believe that 'drunk mans saying is a sober mans thought' cuz me myself have let several secrets feelings out I never wouldve initially had I been sober, one time I had taken so many xanax I completely came out of the closet to like every1. it sounds like yall r close, it could b 'brotherly love' like the other guys said. one of my close friends, a girl, liked me a lot, and I wasn't out 2ne1 at this point in time and I always played around flirtingly with all my 'girl' friends, they would initiate it, but leading her on was sumthing I didn't want to do, and I kinda did, and I just had to break down like, ur friend but that's all u'll b, cuz I kinda like penises haha, so idk, good luck to u sorting this shit out.....
 
He doesn't sound gay/bi/curious to me. He just sounds like he loves you like a brother. I think you are acting very maturely about this. You understand he is off limits and you are keeping it that way.

Thanks.

That's the same conclusion I came to months before these two examples. That I'm reading way too much into his words & actions and there's no way he's into me the way I have deluded myself into believing. Months prior I had a lot of pent up anger, resentment toward him for feeling like I was being used and not fully appreciated. I really had no indication that he considered me a best friend aside from him divulging personal information to me and that wasn't enough. Primarily because he would mentioned the amount of friends he has so I didn't know where I ranked. Due to my overwhelming feelings for him, I was very much in the process of seeing significantly less of him.

He and I talk about the problems he and his girlfriend have all the time, and I give him advice to stay with her and work through things. He has tried to break up with her several times. Depsite their obstacles -- there's a 10 year age difference, he's 22, she's 32 and has three kids -- clearly he is happy with her and I wish him nothing but the best. I'm a friend first and foremost, any other adjective is up in the air.
 
Don't be too hard on yo'self child, you just in love wit' a man, welcome to the club!!

LOL. Thanks for having!

I have such a good time with him too. Our senses of humor is exactly the same there's definite chemistry that he and I have. In a perfect world he and I would be together. That's how much we click.
 
Ya, we all do it. We all read into other's actions with hopeful eyes. You are handling this very well.

Oh and that is odd that she is 10 years older, usually it is the other way around.

Yeah, we do. Thanks.

That is still a lingering issue, along with others, for them (her eldest is 16) she has told her family he is 27. He's very mature looking for his age. Their status is serious, they plan on moving in together soon and he's become acquainted with her kids.
 
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