Dude says he's bi now he's straight.

[msymsia7x]

Alright a little back ground, Kyle is a senior in school, honors student, president of the student council and FFA here in Alabama, he's deeply involved in every school activity, has family who teach there, he himself his Lithuanian but has lived here since he was 2 so might as well be American, he plays football and basket ball and is well known. He's 6'6 with an average build, quit attractive.

Well I'm hanging out with my friend Katherine 2 weeks ago and we are smoking, she says she knows someone who needs to find a weed, this is when I meet 18 year old Kyle, it was weird before I even met him because I had to swear I had never smoked with him and that we had never met if anyone ever asked, basically we didn't know eachother. Well in walks Kyle, I admit I was kinda smitten with him at first, and didn't know he was bi/gay or whatever he was, he seemed smart, is going to be successful and well liked, but NO ONE knows who he really is....

So no one knows we are friends because he's afraid he will be associated with weed then, well we hung out out my house for about a week in a row, everyday, he always sat closed to me, would touch my leg, etc. I confronted Kat about it and said he HAD to be gay.

Well one night we are at my friend melissas, I can see Kyle and Kat visibly angry texting eachother when they are right across the room from eachtoher so I want to know what's going on and I ask, Kat says "well apparently I just told all of yall that kyle is bi and now he's texting me and cussing me out for it" Kyle stomped out of the room after that. Kat never said such a thing so I assumed it was Kyle's way of getting Kat to tell me and not him himself.

Well i'm to the point to where I don't really like him, just to the point of toleration, people don't even know we are friends, and he is still bitching about the kat thing, here is the convo we had earlier on Face book IM:

Kyle: What all has kat told u about me?


Me: just that your bi.
Me: and you want to have sex wit her to find out if your straight


Kyle: Not anymore I don't. Lol. Hell no


Me: haha.


Kyle : Also I am but I have never done anything with a guy. Ever. Its a personal policy.


Me: personal policy? what do you mean?


Kyle: And I don't plan on doing anything either. I have a choice. I choose women


Me: ok, you don't have a choice in who you fall in love with though and one day you'll find out, everyone does.
Me: the funny thing is that in one point in time i liked you as more than a friend until i started finding out who you are, you are cool as hell as a friend but nothing further than that.
Me: and i don't mean that in a rude way.


Kyle: She tells everyones personal secrets. She told me Brent was bi a couple weeks ago and that a well respected Danville graduate used to deal coke and ex and now he sells weed...


Me: ok


Kyle: Someone needs to drug her and sew her mouth shut with fishing line.


me: quit talking like that, let it go.


Kyle: Im pissed off.


Me: ok, but i've never seen anyone act like you when your pissed off and it's kinda drama queeny, so please chill.


Kyle: so I am bi technically, but im really not. So as far as anyone is concerned, im straight. Just wanted to clear that up.


Me: Alright, good for you, see you tomorrow.

So obvioulsy dude is closeted, jsut thought I would share, Comments?

 

[medic1]

Congratulation,s on sharing the personal details of someone here on a gay
forum without their knowledge or consent.
You are coming across as someone that if you want something private dont
tell you about it.
The only person being dramatic here is you,how old did you say you were ?
This just look`s like sour grapes from someone who has realised that a guy
he fancies is not going to be putting out for him.
But hey just my opinion.

 

[Puckzilla]

^Agreed.

Just let it go. You both know where you stand now, it doesn't seem like anything's gonna go down and really, if you have to deny you even know the guy, what's the point in talking to him at all?

 

[medic1]

Really? It seems to be they are all being dramatic. It's a teenage thing.

Yeah you are probably right i just dont like the idea of giving out really personal
details that could be used to find and out someone,who by the sounds of it and
for whatever reason want to stay closeted.

 

[slnattak]

You're attracted to his narcissism and powerful social presence that he has with others. You're not really into him as a person, you're into his social confidence that you wish you yourself had.

I'm not attacking you or anything. This is an INCREDIBLY common issue. Most people aren't socially confident, so everybody loves the 'popular jock' that is narcissistically beautiful. However, there's no heart in what you're doing, nor is there any heart in getting to sleep with him because he's just playing you for his own amusement.

 

[slnattak]

The healthiest relationship I ever had was with an obese guy that was effeminate , too soft and had pimples all over his face. He had a stable, decent job but wasn't like some bigshot or anything. He actually knew how to treat me like a human being.

When I'm dealing with some narcissist that can't get over himself it's annoying.

But I want something in the middle. Somebody that knows how to make themselves look attractive but also somebody that knows how important it is to be nice to other people.

 

[msymsia7x]

Congratulation,s on sharing the personal details of someone here on a gay
forum without their knowledge or consent.

Yes you are right, because obviously I didn't change the names. Use your common sense.

You are coming across as someone that if you want something private dont
tell you about it.

Why, because I came to a forum where these specific topics are talked about?

The only person being dramatic here is you,how old did you say you were ?

I'm 22. How am I being dramatic?

This just look`s like sour grapes from someone who has realised that a guy
he fancies is not going to be putting out for him.
But hey just my opinion.

Yes because obviously i'm in love with the guy. Did you even read the thread?

 

[jstud]

Alabama isn't exactly the best place to come out by the way. I live here so I know. I knew one bisexual guy who came out to me only pretty much, and I barely knew him. He just knew I was gay and so he felt comfortable. Later on though he did the same thing that this guy is doing more or less, said he was straight but just had a "curious" or "freaky" side but would marry a woman someday. He said something about women being more nurturing or something.

Just have to accept it really and move on. Do you have a crush on this guy?

 

[msymsia7x]

Just have to accept it really and move on. Do you have a crush on this guy?

Used to like him, but why be with a guy who can't be himself and doesn't even want people to know your friends. I don't have a problem being his friend other than that no thank you. We don't even talk about sexuality or anything like that unless he brings up the bi subject.

 

[jstud]

Well, its Alabama. You can't really expect people to be open about it round here. I'm from the UK so I am different. I'm out to some people but not all still though, as this place isn't ideal for gay/bi guys.

I don't know any really masculine gay men here apart from maybe one who I've known for a long time. I workout at a gym here and there are hardly any gay guys in there, and if they are, they are deeply closeted.

 

[msymsia7x]

I understand, you don't have to wave rainbow flags in the street, my friends and family know, and if I had a partner then they should love me enough to share all of there life with me and let me share mine with them without feeling ashamed or scared. This isn't a reference to Kyle, this is from past experiences.

 

[jstud]

I guess. I understand what you're are saying. I have a partner and some people know, others don't. We don't advertise. I used to be more touchy feely and all about PDA and stuff, but now I'm the total opposite and am a pretty private person now.

In my opinion, depending on how things are handled, it isn't essential to the relationship for any of the people to be "out." I wouldn't say I was totally OUT in Alabama. Some people know, others don't, just like I said.

This Kyle guy is probably scared to be fair, scared of a whole host of things that comes with liking guys e.g. the stigma, confusion over feelings, trying to fight it etc. I don't think you're going to get this guy as a boyfriend, but maybe you can mess around. Not sure if that's what you want though.

 

[pai mei]

this is typical. he refuses to accept himself, and he's choosing not to for the foreseeable future. it can be a rough time in anyone's life, confronting that, so i wouldn't be surprised if his emotions were a little elevated.

perhaps there's a role somewhere for someone to play to help him through it, but who knows, it doesn't seem like it's you, so i'd just go on about my business and assume he's a closet case, which, he is.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Ohmygawd like for reals?

 

[pai mei]

This will be a very infamous opinion, but who knows if it's really a struggle? I'm convinced that many people who have lived and died "straight" lives were bisexual and hid that from the world easily as they were completely capable of forming loving/sexual bonds with women anyway.

Some even with the consent of an occasional hookup from their own wives.

I remember when the Loveline aired, this Caucasian girl talked about how she had parents who exhibited all sorts of racist behavior growing up. Then she was looking through some things around the house and accidentally stumbled onto a tape where both of her parents (mom and dad) were sucking on Black cocks.

We will never have a full understanding of what goes on in people's private lives and that especially includes the bedroom. If he really is bisexual, while he's taking a cowardly way out by not being open with it, it's entirely plausible that he could live a "straight" life with a little cock on the side with little to no consequence.

sure, but generally it goes beyond simply not hooking up with guys. it spreads out to many facets of one's life, where he stays away from anything he might secretly want to be or do, because it might be far too close to "gay."

how "easy" it is to do that, well, i dunno. it isn't difficult when that's all you know. it wasn't for me. but even though it was easy to force myself never to be gay or bi, externally, etc, or to tell myself that anyways, and to act accordingly, it certainly did fuck me up to a degree, psychologically.

i went through highschool being someone who couldn't express themselves the way I really wanted to, even though in my own mind i "wasn't gay, period," it didn't stop me from locking myself off from a ton of stuff i wanted to do, and it wasn't even conscious, even though i consciously knew what i really wanted to do, be, jokes i laugh at, clothes i wear, people you have to consciously stop yourself from checking out, everything imaginable really. i suppose it was easy to do though in retrospect, but you can't tell me it doesn't fuck them up psychologically.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

I'm starting to see why I don't relate to guys that can't buy beer legally.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I'm starting to see why I don't relate to guys that can't buy beer legally.

cosign, this is why i always hung out with older crowds, less omg juh-RAMA!!!!

Im worried about the author having such low self esteem that he can be friends with someone who is ashamed of their friendship.

 

[pai mei]

I'm starting to see why I don't relate to guys that can't buy beer legally.

is it because you're a bitter old ditty?

 

[pai mei]

Now I'm definitely not condoning the behavior.

But I think that someone who is truly bisexual and has a strong enough attraction to women to build a life with one can do this a lot easier than someone who claims to be gay.

It's cowardly, yes. But I am certain there are a ton of married men over time who have done it easily. And even plenty of those with the permission of their wives.

I have no scientific evidence to back this up, of course, but it's an inkling (and stories like the ones I've heard). I don't think the experiences of a bisexual who can "pass" is exactly akin to those of a gay man.

perhaps. there certainly is a lot of people that have liven "straight" lives that are bi. i wouldn't be surprised if there were more bi people out there than gay, and that the % of bi people is larger than what we currently expect.

heck, im bi i guess technically, though i self identify as gay, there have been 1 or 2 girls in my life that i have been sexually attracted to.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

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