Early Election 2016 Prediction: Democrats Will Win Presidency for 3rd Consecutive Cycle

[rareboy]

What a load of crap...and you keep saying it. Do you think if you say it enough times it becomes the truth?

If it is just about "the woman"...why didn't she win in 2008?

...and I dare you to find a single Hillary voter who would ever vote for Sarah Palin...or Michelle Bachmann...or Carly Fiorina. They have "female genitalia".

We have two good candidates...and one is a woman. I am glad one is a woman ...but that is not why I am voting for her. I wanted Dennis Kucinich in 2008...and I don't think he has a vagina....but since you are so much more aware of my motivations than I am..maybe he does have one. You might want to investigate.

...and what are the "obvious reasons" that black voters won't turn out?

BTW....Do you find it "embarrassing for our country" that so many white people vote strictly for white people?

Probably not.

Mystik's logic about voting for Hils because she's a woman is a total fail for the reasons you point out.

And if he thinks that gays and women are all marching lockstep for Hillary because she has a vagina....then he doesn't really understand the strengths of this person as a candidate at all...and like evanrick....it would be a waste of time to try to convince him.

 

[offthewall14420]

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Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

 

[jbrown329]

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Obsolete with the teabaggers. It has no meaning.

 

[offthewall14420]

I thought the 'baggers were all about liberty and the founders. I'm starting to think the only part of the constitution they respect is the 3/5th a person clause for slaves.

 

[jbrown329]

I thought the 'baggers were all about liberty and the founders. I'm starting to think the only part of the constitution they respect is the 3/5th a person clause for slaves.

God, Gays and Guns for the theocratic right. Guns for the others. Cause 'Merica ya know.

 

[TX-Beau]

I thought the 'baggers were all about liberty and the founders. I'm starting to think the only part of the constitution they respect is the 3/5th a person clause for slaves.

The Baggers made up their own FF's and Constitution, neither of which you'll recognize, and Benvolio suckered you, he was wetting his panties because he really really wanted to spew his usual racist crap, but he knows what happens to him when he thread hijacks with that tired old Stormfront paranoid bigotry he's been peddling for years, so he got you to bring it up for him - and notice, now he's going to regurgitate it up on all of us for the thousandth time.

 

[hotatlboi]

I would be willing to tolerate 4 years of Trump

Had to stop reading this absurd post right there.

Trump is a serious danger to the country. He is totally unqualified to be president and could do serious damage were he to ever get elected. He must be opposed 100% and stopped.

Supporting Trump because your preferred D candidate didn't win is petty and stupid. I say that as a Bernie voter.

People often accuse Republicans of putting party before country. Well this is one instance were a lot of Democrats/liberals seem to be doing that very same thing.

 

[rareboy]

Had to stop reading this absurd post right there.

Trump is a serious danger to the country. He is totally unqualified to be president and could do serious damage were he to ever get elected. He must be opposed 100% and stopped.

Supporting Trump because your preferred D candidate didn't win is petty and stupid. I say that as a Bernie voter.

People often accuse Republicans of putting party before country. Well this is one instance were a lot of Democrats/liberals seem to be doing that very same thing.

Pretty much this.

Every time that I read about a Bernie supporter vowing to vote for Trump before they'd vote for Hillary, I can only think that they really don't understand Bernie Trump at all.

Trump poses an existential threat to the safety and security of the entire planet. Seriously.

 

[CoolBlue71]

Had to stop reading this absurd post right there.

Trump is a serious danger to the country. He is totally unqualified to be president and could do serious damage were he to ever get elected. He must be opposed 100% and stopped.

Supporting Trump because your preferred D candidate didn't win is petty and stupid. I say that as a Bernie voter.

People often accuse Republicans of putting party before country. Well this is one instance were a lot of Democrats/liberals seem to be doing that very same thing.

Crossing party lines is more complicated than that.

This is not an example of “party before country.”

 

[rareboy]

^ It isn't any more complicated than that.

There is no way that any Democrat in good conscience could cast a vote for Trump or Cruz. If they do, then it is clear that they have no idea of, or respect for the actual message of Bernie Sanders.

 

[CoolBlue71]

^ It isn't any more complicated than that.

There is no way that any Democrat in good conscience could cast a vote for Trump or Cruz. If they do, then it is clear that they have no idea of, or respect for the actual message of Bernie Sanders.

Voting is not about “good conscience.”

It is voting.

People are not required to explain a vote.

They vote. It gets recorded. And they move on.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Voting is not about “good conscience.”

It is voting.

People are not required to explain a vote.

They vote. It gets recorded. And they move on.

And voting is more complicated than that. What rareboy says is true, going from Bernie to Trump is a massive jump. No, one does not need to explain their vote, but we can question and criticize.

 

[Rolyo85]

People are not required to explain a vote and we aren't required to stay quiet about what we think of their vote.

 

[rareboy]

Voting is not about “good conscience.”

It is voting.

People are not required to explain a vote.

They vote. It gets recorded. And they move on.

If someone votes without good faith and without good conscience, then it is just juvenile spitefulness.

You don't have to explain it.

Because everyone knows it for exactly what it is.

 

[BenDan]

1980 Repub debate--very interesting.

Great stuff

Two republicans

Who would prob never survive a current day primary system

 

[BenDan]

Hills should win in a landslide

Unless Trump can clone angry white men

If Hills does the right thing and makes nice with Bernie and the Progressive movement the #s will be of epic proportions

As Trump has stirred the pot far too many times

He is an island

As for the obnoxious faux Bernie voting progressive above threatening Bernie supporters with xyz if they don't vote for Hills

I say nuts to you

Voting is a personal choice

It's really that simple so sit down and get off the proverbial high horse

 

[evanrick]

Hillary is the 'odds on favorite to win' but so was Jeb Bush, who spent $150 million on his campaign and a lot of it attacking Trump, didn't do Jeb a sliver of help because when people heard Bush they thought 'Iraq' but for some inexplicable reason when Hillary people hear Iraq they think 'success'.

Hillarys piecemeal evolution on economic issues are not going to help her campaign either.

I was just watching Bill Maher and Neil Degrasse Tyson, Tyson explaining that if you have a problem with Trump you have a problem with his supporters, by which Republicans happened to outnumber Democrats in this years presidential Primaries.

Not to mention but Ill say again for the 4th time, getting respect for Trump supporters who just want a job will get you a lot farther than supporting Hillary whose people just want amnesty and welfare. Trusting the democrats on either issue didnt seem to help any democrat I know, Obama has chased millions out of the country, Clinton signed welfare reform and the crime bill, but people seem to take issues with my criticism of Hillary because it 'violates their safe space' is the ultimate sign your candidate has nothing to offer the country.

Tyson backed up everything I have been saying this whole time but - ill still get attacked for being right?

 

[Kabluey]

Trump has been non specific about which of his policies actually create jobs.

Things like corporate taxes and removal of environmental protections are policy-based, whereas 'jobs' is very fuzzy.
There's a credibility factor that people need to consider rather than statements like 'Hispanics love me' or whatever it was he said.