Ebola has reached Texas

[pat grimshaw]

Who has the job of wrapping up all that ebola-infected excrement in plastic bags?

Where is it stored and how is it treated?

 

[figjam]

You seem to have it the wrong way round. I wasn't arguing that rats are a vector. Your posting was that any mammal is suspect. My point is that it is likely not true, as most diseases aren't that virulent as to affect just any animal in the broad category of mammalia.

And my point remains: we don't know much detail about the studies already done by groups on animals and ebola. Conjecturing and using deductive reasoning isn't very likely to avail much. I'd rather read actual data. Opinions are like butt plugs -- anyone could have one, but the leave it to the French to have a huge green one.

Guys.... It is not the biting by mammals that is the issue here - it is the eating of said mammals. Under-cooking of "bush meat" which includes bats, monkeys and any other bush critters that lead to the ebola outbreak.

 

[jdcnow]

Who has the job of wrapping up all that ebola-infected excrement in plastic bags?

Where is it stored and how is it treated?

KPRC-TV Channel 2 in Houston confirms that the University Of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston Island will take on both possession and the safe destruction of the medical waste.

 

[figjam]

I don't have a view one way or the other. I don't know if animal urine or feces, which is common in the food chain and in the environment inhabited with rodents, is responsible or not. All I was saying is that I don't see any data or studies stating what the vectors are that are non-human. The only reference I heard was to fruit bats being suspect, but it was a solitary statement without any details.

*sigh* the only "vector" is the one pointing to the pot....

 

[smokeshadow]

Thought this an interesting look at the quantity of deaths in Africa from Ebola compared to other causes. Now I realize that Ebola is difficult to treat and cure, but still. . .a whole lot of bru-ha-ha over nothing

 

[Kulindahr]

You seem to have it the wrong way round. I wasn't arguing that rats are a vector. Your posting was that any mammal is suspect. My point is that it is likely not true, as most diseases aren't that virulent as to affect just any animal in the broad category of mammalia.

And my point remains: we don't know much detail about the studies already done by groups on animals and ebola. Conjecturing and using deductive reasoning isn't very likely to avail much. I'd rather read actual data. Opinions are like butt plugs -- anyone could have one, but the leave it to the French to have a huge green one.

If they'd found rats (or any other animal) were a vector, that information would be on the CDC website. It isn't.

 

[Kulindahr]

KPRC-TV Channel 2 in Houston confirms that the University Of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston Island will take on both possession and the safe destruction of the medical waste.

If they had an "anything to oil" plant, they could just dump the waste in; excrement, rubber gloves, plastic bottles, whatever, all turned into oil.

 

[Kulindahr]

Thought this an interesting look at the quantity of deaths in Africa from Ebola compared to other causes. Now I realize that Ebola is difficult to treat and cure, but still. . .a whole lot of bru-ha-ha over nothing

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In one way, yeah. But in terms of lethality of condition, ebola ranks pretty high.

 

[jdcnow]

Well, this just keeps getting better all the time...

For those who may not be familiar, just to give some perspective, there are 3 main public transit systems that serve 4 of the 5 counties that make up immediate Dallas-Fort Worth... The Denton County Transit Authority, which services the northern suburbs, "The T", which services Fort Worth and Tarrant County, and Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART for short), which services all of Dallas County, as well as the far-southeastern Denton County, and southwestern Collin County parts of the city. In keeping with the JUB TOS, I won't disclose specifically where I live, but I do live DART's service area.

Well, it hit the latenight news earlier tonight, and DART confirms it on their website - two DART employees, one of which was a bus driver, did ride on the exact same flight as, I believe, the second nurse who tested positive for Ebola!!!

Here's the first part of their "Rider Alert" notice posted on their website...

Two DART employees have been connected w/ persons who have been exposed to or are carrying the Ebola virus. One of the employees is a bus operator who notified us of being a passenger on the plane from Cleveland w/ a nurse currently undergoing treatment for Ebola. The operator learned of his possible exposure from media accounts & notified us after contacting the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). However, this was after he had completed his shift Wednesday morning. Although the operator was not displaying symptoms at the time, & based on CDC information would not be able to transmit the virus, we will attempt to contact customers who were on the bus during his shift. The bus he was operating was immediately removed from service for cleaning.

Both employees are considered low risk by the CDC since they have had no direct contact w/ any of the individuals w/ the virus.

Are you fucking serious, right now?! ​

I rode the bus Wednesday morning trying to go to the dentist to go get my tooth pulled!!!

They won't say what bus route this driver drove, what part of town he was working in, during his shift, etc. So myself and hundreds of thousands of my closest friends across DART's service area may have been put at risk for this deadly disease and not even know it. Our lives were basically put in jeopardy and we were none the wiser. And our only mistake was that, for whatever reason, we needed to ride the bus that day.

Somebody please tell me that this is all somebody's idea of a bad joke. /not amused...

 

[Yooper]

Has anyone read 'The Stand'?

Old King novel, worth the investment (and you can read it at home without interacting with the rest of the world). Once he kills off 99.9% of the planetary population, the good survivors end up in Boulder, CO, the bad survivors end up in Vegas.

Should I survive, I guess I'm safe. I could WALK to Boulder if needed.

 

[T-Rexx]

Canada has developed an Ebola vaccine, and is shipping 800 vials of it to WHO.

http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?mthd=index&crtr.page=1&nid=894989

 

[T-Rexx]

Well, this just keeps getting better all the time...

For those who may not be familiar, just to give some perspective, there are 3 main public transit systems that serve 4 of the 5 counties that make up immediate Dallas-Fort Worth... The Denton County Transit Authority, which services the northern suburbs, "The T", which services Fort Worth and Tarrant County, and Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART for short), which services all of Dallas County, as well as the far-southeastern Denton County, and southwestern Collin County parts of the city. In keeping with the JUB TOS, I won't disclose specifically where I live, but I do live DART's service area.

Well, it hit the latenight news earlier tonight, and DART confirms it on their website - two DART employees, one of which was a bus driver, did ride on the exact same flight as, I believe, the second nurse who tested positive for Ebola!!!

Here's the first part of their "Rider Alert" notice posted on their website...

Two DART employees have been connected w/ persons who have been exposed to or are carrying the Ebola virus. One of the employees is a bus operator who notified us of being a passenger on the plane from Cleveland w/ a nurse currently undergoing treatment for Ebola. The operator learned of his possible exposure from media accounts & notified us after contacting the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). However, this was after he had completed his shift Wednesday morning. Although the operator was not displaying symptoms at the time, & based on CDC information would not be able to transmit the virus, we will attempt to contact customers who were on the bus during his shift. The bus he was operating was immediately removed from service for cleaning.

I saw a picture of an Ebola patient on the internet.

I'm feeling a little feverish right now.

 

[T-Rexx]

Almost forgot.

Now we have an Ebola Czar!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/politics/ebola-czar-ron-klain/index.html

 

[Kahaih]

Canada has developed an Ebola vaccine, and is shipping 800 vials of it to WHO.

http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?mthd=index&crtr.page=1&nid=894989

Just to be clear, from the article:

The Government of Canada will ship 800 vials of its experimental Ebola vaccine to the World Health Organization (WHO) in Geneva, beginning with its first shipment on Monday, October 20, 2014.

. . . .

On October 13, 2014, the Government of Canada announced the start of clinical trials for the vaccine at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in the United States. These trials will provide critical information about the safety of the vaccine and what dose is required to stimulate a person’s immune system to produce Ebola antibodies. Results from the clinical trial are expected in December 2014.

. . . .

This experimental Ebola vaccine has just begun clinical trials in humans, after showing very promising results in animal research. . . . . .

Looks promising, though.

 

[Kulindahr]

Well, this just keeps getting better all the time...

For those who may not be familiar, just to give some perspective, there are 3 main public transit systems that serve 4 of the 5 counties that make up immediate Dallas-Fort Worth... The Denton County Transit Authority, which services the northern suburbs, "The T", which services Fort Worth and Tarrant County, and Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART for short), which services all of Dallas County, as well as the far-southeastern Denton County, and southwestern Collin County parts of the city. In keeping with the JUB TOS, I won't disclose specifically where I live, but I do live DART's service area.

Well, it hit the latenight news earlier tonight, and DART confirms it on their website - two DART employees, one of which was a bus driver, did ride on the exact same flight as, I believe, the second nurse who tested positive for Ebola!!!

Here's the first part of their "Rider Alert" notice posted on their website...

Are you fucking serious, right now?! ​

I rode the bus Wednesday morning trying to go to the dentist to go get my tooth pulled!!!

They won't say what bus route this driver drove, what part of town he was working in, during his shift, etc. So myself and hundreds of thousands of my closest friends across DART's service area may have been put at risk for this deadly disease and not even know it. Our lives were basically put in jeopardy and we were none the wiser. And our only mistake was that, for whatever reason, we needed to ride the bus that day.

Somebody please tell me that this is all somebody's idea of a bad joke. /not amused...

Do the drivers ordinarily make sure they wipe bodily fluids on every passenger?
And does a single driver physically touch "hundreds of thousands" of riders?

Sounds like your transit system has some serious issues to deal with.
Or maybe you're just being a freaked-out drama queen.

 

[Callum]

Canada will save the day. No stress.

 

[DonQuixote]

While this is more than a little disconcerting - we spent a night and day in Cleveland the preceeding weekend, and drove back through the following week, so we have an extreme outside chance of an errant microbe straying into our path -

Some general information regarding the temperature the nurse was running -

The FDA considers Normal Body temperature to be 98.6F +/-1oF. 98.6F is the average normal temperature. I know this because I am an apheresis donor - I give blood platelets - roughly once every 2 weeks, 24 times per year.

I also know that people w/ allergies tend to run lower temps while others can run higher temps.

So, from a strictly clinical standpoint, the nurse was "not" running a temperature - 99.5 is only 9/10ths of a degree above statistical normal.

Having said that, the nurse likely knows what her body tends to run for a normal temperature.
Also, given her circumstances, the CDC *Might* have considered more stringent standards.

Next - as to the disposal of body fluids (and bodies, period) - I believe the CDC/WHO standards are to incinerate all infectious body materials to ensure that no microbes survive to infect others.

 

[medic1]

I posted way back in this thread exactly what would in all probability happen, i received "shit" for that post. Yes, i am talking about you.

 

[T-Rexx]

Rwanda is now screening incoming Americans for Ebola.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...g-incoming-americans-and-spaniards-for-ebola/


Personally, I think the US should impose travel restrictions on people arriving from Dallas.

 

[star-warrior]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-hospital-officially-declared-free-virus.html

Nina Pham, the first person to contract Ebola on U.S. soil, thanked the prayers she received from all over the world and a blood transfusion from Dr Kent Brantly - the American doctor who caught the disease in Liberia - as she was released from hospital on Friday, 12 days after being diagnosed with the virus.

But wait, she says

'I would first and foremost like to thank God, my family, and friends.

Foremost? What about the doctors who gave a fuck for your treatment?

Implicit in this is how God chose her, and not those africans to save.