Einstein + God = $400,000

[kallipolis]

A "Time" magazine article does offer a more in-depth appreciation of Professor Einstein's views on religion.

This excerpt from this "Time" article does articulate Albert Einstein's views of atheists, that Keeland might discover broadens his self limiting understandings:

But throughout his life, Einstein was consistent in rejecting the charge that he was an atheist. "There are people who say there is no God," he told a friend. "But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views." And unlike Sigmund Freud or Bertrand Russell or George Bernard Shaw, Einstein never felt the urge to denigrate those who believed in God; instead, he tended to denigrate atheists. "What separates me from most so-called atheists is a feeling of utter humility toward the unattainable secrets of the harmony of the cosmos," he explained.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1607298,00.html?iid=sphere-inline-sidebar

 

[Pushyourluck]

I agree with Einstein. Although I may call myself an atheist if ever asked what religion I follow, I do not know for certain that a God doesn't exist. To say you know for certain one way or the other that God does or does not exist is futile because no one really knows. There are certain things that cannot be explained and I guess this is where Einsteins humility lies.

 

[kallipolis]

There are certain things that cannot be explained and I guess this is where Einsteins humility lies.

I share this view of a mystery.

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

maybe einstein got it wrong and is sitting on the right side of god now.......... next to that other dude

 

[cAndId]

I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.

- Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

-- Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press

"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

-- Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science," New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930


This guy must have been pretty smart.

 

[kallipolis]

I do not believe in a personal God

Perhaps this remark, clarifies some of the apparent confusion.

Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

Fear, is the antipathy of faith. I would certainly second this remark, from Eistein.

Certainly, Einstein was smart. Whether he was also pretty, is a matter for the eye of the beholder.

 

[_AJ_]

There are certain things that cannot be explained and I guess this is where Einsteins humility lies.

I share this view of a mystery.

i dont believe there is any way to say that something can Not be explained i would prefer to say they have not yet been explained

just because something may not be explained for another thousand years or more does not make it impossible to do just hard or maybe its simple and we cant see it or perceive it

its funny the way we view time if it cant happen in your or someones lifetime its deemed to be almost impossible

 

[kallipolis]

Einstein did, however, retain from his childhood religious phase a profound faith in, and reverence for, the harmony and beauty of what he called the mind of God as it was expressed in the creation of the universe and its laws.

This might help us appreciate that Einstein's understandings of the sublime do not fit in with the predictable, but nevertheless help us appreciate his openness of mind.

 

[kallipolis]

i dont believe there is any way to say that something can Not be explained i would prefer to say they have not yet been explained

Faith cannot be explained in a rational manner, that would satisfy the mind of the rational thinker. Thus empirical research of this mystery can never offer the "searcher" a satisfactory answer.

Faith is only understood, when living a life of faith.

 

[_AJ_]

if god does exist there must be some way of telling eventually conclusively it would be impossible to create everything and not leave a trace something anything but we have not yet found that trace and until we do there will always be doubt

but it is foolish to follow anything blindly your liable to walk off a cliff

 

[_AJ_]

In the words of the great Jean-Luc Picard script writer, everything is impossible — until it isn't.

and i would say the opposite everything is possible till proven otherwise and sometimes not even then!

 

[kallipolis]

In the words of the great Jean-Luc Picard script writer, everything is impossible — until it isn't.

Or, everything is possible, when that possibility becomes possible.

Plays on words, are best left to the likes of William Shakespeare.

 

[kallipolis]

and i would say the opposite everything is possible till proven otherwise and sometimes not even then!

Or, when possibilties become possible, then that possibility ceases to be an impossibility.

 

[kallipolis]

If god does exist there must be some way of telling eventually conclusively it would be impossible to create everything and not leave a trace something anything but we have not yet found that trace and until we do there will always be doubt

but it is foolish to follow anything blindly your liable to walk off a cliff

The issue of a creator creates confusion. For most believers atheists and theists alike, construct their own understandings of their ideas of a creator.

Faith in God is never revealed in irrational, self harming behaviour. Faith for the faithful person, is always a rational experience.

Let us differentiate between a religious practitioner and a person who lives by faith in the creator.

 

[kallipolis]

Don't project.

Don't mislead, your self.

 

[_AJ_]

but its always been possible its just we haven't done it yet

would you say its impossible to send people to mars just because its hard and we haven't done it of proven it yet does not make it impossible just that it has not been done

thus it must have always been possible

 

[kallipolis]

but its always been possible its just we haven't done it yet

Is it possible for you to avoid death? Or is it just not possible yet?

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

Einstein died before PeTe was born, so you'll have to give him some slack.

are you really sure about that??

 

[_AJ_]

If god does exist there must be some way of telling eventually conclusively it would be impossible to create everything and not leave a trace something anything but we have not yet found that trace and until we do there will always be doubt

but it is foolish to follow anything blindly your liable to walk off a cliff

The issue of a creator creates confusion. For most believers atheists and theists alike, construct their own understandings of their ideas of a creator.

Faith in God is never revealed in irrational, self harming behaviour. Faith for the faithful person, is always a rational experience.

Let us differentiate between a religious practitioner and a person who lives by faith in the creator.

maybe for some but suicide bombers and holy crusades show what can happen if you do blindly follow

it happened before its happening now and will happen again

but its possible it wont happen in the future

 

[_AJ_]

but its always been possible its just we haven't done it yet

Is it possible for you to avoid death? Or is it just not possible yet?

yes it is possible
not very probable at the moment but probability does not make something impossible just very unlikely or likely

it is possible that advanced aliens could land tomorrow and have the technology to avoid death not likely but not impossile

p.s if aliens do land tomorrow I called it