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Emo Iraqis being stoned to death *Graphic*

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Be careful, Miami. The Old Canadian will start stoning you for sharing the truth about his multicultural friends
 
Sad thing is..the most merciful thing to happen is when the victims breath their last.
 
That entire region of the world has revealed itself as a pathetic and unjust center of fanaticism. It is not worth one drop of American blood and I hope we soon pull-out and allow whatever ending plays to run its course. I am disgusted by their culture (or lack, thereof...and yes, I am aware of their significant contributions in the distant past), their brazen disregard for human decency, and their putrid and stinking conditions. The entire region (Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan) is backward and so far to the right wing of decency.
 
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Be careful, Miami. The Old Canadian will start stoning you for sharing the truth about his multicultural friends


A 28 year-old Philadelphia-area man admitted he stoned to death a 70 year-old man because the Bible says to stone homosexuals. John Joe Thomas reportedly killed Murray Joseph Seidman, whom he knew, and told police, “I stoned Murray with a rock in a sock,” because he had read in the Bible that gays should be stoned.
According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, “The young man and Seidman were often seen together grocery shopping and going to church,” and “He then described how he placed batteries and rocks in a sock, and hit Seidman in the head at least 10 times.”

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.co...ible-says-to-stone-gays/news/2011/03/18/18138

On Wednesday afternoon, Mr. Kato was beaten to death with a hammer in his rough-and-tumble neighborhood. Police officials were quick to chalk up the motive to robbery, but members of the small and increasingly besieged gay community in Uganda suspect otherwise.

“David’s death is a result of the hatred planted in Uganda by U.S. evangelicals in 2009,” Val Kalende, the chairwoman of one of Uganda’s gay rights groups, said in a statement. “The Ugandan government and the so-called U.S. evangelicals must take responsibility for David’s blood.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/world/africa/28uganda.html


Wow. eh?

Barbaric fundamentalism is barbaric fundamentalism and no one will make excuses for it.
 
I would just note that this seems to underscore the abject failure of American interference in Iraq.

One hopes that the country is not devolving into a Wahabist theocracy.

There is nothing more devoutly to be wished than the end of the Abrahamic based religions that were designed for tribal goat herders.

I would also counsel care, Miami. You seem to have devalued and trivialized your entire thread with the glib throwaway 'Blame Canada' bit. I assume you are drunk or stoned.
 
Yeah me too. I can't imagine someone smashing my arms and legs with cement blocks and then finally crushing my head in until I'm dead. It's a horrible way to die for just wearing skinny jeans and a cute hairstyle.

Talk about not surviving a fashion mistake...

George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld, come on down: this is your legacy.

Hardly.

They only killed the people who were stopping the other Iraqis from doing this to each other.
 
I think the country was better off with Sadaam in power.
 
= I think that was a bit tasteless in this particular situation. Lest we forget who is cleaning up Afghanistan and parts of the middle east as a direct result of certain world leaders....

Who?



As far as the deaths of those 'different' than the society they are in? It is a sad occurrence around the globe in many under developed parts. What sucks is that we spilled our blood to help these folks pull out of such a sad state of humanity and due to poor leadership decisions and election campaign promises we no longer have a presence there to make any leveraged impact on their leaders so that they can police such barbaric activities. No a completely pointless war when we walked completely away from the region.
 
Hardly.

They only killed the people who were stopping the other Iraqis from doing this to each other.

So if you've got a wood stove in your house with a fire roaring in it, and I break the stove so the fire spills out, it isn't my fault that the house catches fire?

Or if the neighbors have a baby sitter who keeps the kids in line, else they'd trash the house, if I take out the babysitter it isn't my fault when half the things in the house are smashed?

Interesting concept. Ridiculous, but interesting: if I remove the thing that is keeping peace and order, I'm not responsible for the loss of peace and order.
 
I think the country was better off with Sadaam in power.

Yes, it was. Saddam was ready to do anything to keep his position; there was no need to use force. We could have forced a republic on him, first step in teaching people about sharing power and responsibility, a step toward a Magna Carta moment.

But no, the Bush team had to waste hundreds of billions of dollars, destroy as much in real estate, kill tens of thousands, set off religious strife, then leave the place to the tender mercies of barbarous religious thugs.
 
Who?



As far as the deaths of those 'different' than the society they are in? It is a sad occurrence around the globe in many under developed parts. What sucks is that we spilled our blood to help these folks pull out of such a sad state of humanity and due to poor leadership decisions and election campaign promises we no longer have a presence there to make any leveraged impact on their leaders so that they can police such barbaric activities. No a completely pointless war when we walked completely away from the region.

A walk away that was lauded by just about every liberal voice and now the same liberals stand by and shake there heads as if nothing could possibly be done.

That is what is ridiculous and incredibly sad.
 
This is a cultural issue. The Iraqis own this problem themselves with no one to blame. They adhere to to their own tribal/barbaric mentality and judgment. Iraq is not alone.

  1. Saudi Arabia, Iran and some African countries: being caught for being a homosexual is punishable by death.
  2. Afghanistan: villages ruled by the Taliban, teenage girls and women were stoned to death for going to a neighborhood school to get an education. Talibans do not allow girls and women to have basic education.
  3. India: In some villages, Mother-in-laws set their daughter-in-laws ablaze for giving birth to a girl instead of a boy. India bans doctors from telling pregnant patients (and their family) if the unborn child is a boy or a girl to prevent more killings from mother-in-laws.
  4. China: Due to the "one child policy" to control population, many women (conforming to family pressure to produce a male heir) abort their pregnancies if the unborn child is a female. If the government only allows each family to have only one child for life, most people want to have a boy...not a girl. For those who went through the pregnancy to give birth to a girl, some of them abandon these infant girls at orphanages. If you want to adopt a child from China, most likely, you will adopt a girl. It's very rare to have boys in orphanges for adoption.
  5. Canada (Montreal): recent Honor killing case: a 58 yr old Canadian business man/immigrant from Afghanistan killed his three teenaged daughters and his first wife. His son was an accomplice in the killing as well. Why? The father (a polygamist) was furious that his teenaged girls" — Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13 — dressed in short skirts and flirted with boys. Evidence presented includes cellphone pictures of the girls hugging boyfriends." Story Source. Is Canada to be blamed for this? Is it Canada's fault for allowing this family come live and thrive financially in the Canadian economy and job opportunities? I think not.
 
Wow non sequitur much Rareboy?


I hear ya Tiexgrr.

I am saying that it is an amazing shame that all of that was laid to waste by poor leadership decisions.

By the way carpet bombing hasnt been done since vietnam. These days it is million dollars a pop smart bombs. But I understand your point.

BTW although not very much heralded there are still hundreds of American soldiers in Iraq training their security forces. much like what you point out Canadian forces are doing. That will not change in the near term.
 
Its the religious/cultural extremists again who do the stoning.
 
Yes, it was. Saddam was ready to do anything to keep his position; there was no need to use force. We could have forced a republic on him, first step in teaching people about sharing power and responsibility, a step toward a Magna Carta moment.

But no, the Bush team had to waste hundreds of billions of dollars, destroy as much in real estate, kill tens of thousands, set off religious strife, then leave the place to the tender mercies of barbarous religious thugs.

Iraq would be a much happier place if it wasn't invaded.

Would America be better off economically if Iraq wasn't invaded?
Maybe not because the defense industry doesn't produce anything useful for the general public.
 
Iraq would be a much happier place if it wasn't invaded.

Would America be better off economically if Iraq wasn't invaded?
Maybe not because the defense industry doesn't produce anything useful for the general public.

Says you. Please name and innovation and I will tell you how it was developed or perfected in the military industrial complex.

Economically we would be just as toast except we would have less debt and therefore would NOT be making actual efforts to reign in that debt so I am pretty sure we would be in a worse condition for the long term.
 
Says you. Please name and innovation and I will tell you how it was developed or perfected in the military industrial complex.

Economically we would be just as toast except we would have less debt and therefore would NOT be making actual efforts to reign in that debt so I am pretty sure we would be in a worse condition for the long term.

well, my question was
"Would America be better off economically if Iraq wasn't invaded?"
My answer was NO
 
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