Evil Christian Leaders

[metta]

Evangelicals, Catholics: Gay Marriage Paves the Way to Incest​

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=99256

 

[gsdx]

Where do they come up with this crap? Did they hire writers from Weekly World News when it went under a few years ago?

Seriously, it's a wonder anyone can understand a word they're saying when they have so many feet stuffed in their mouths:

While acknowledging that "Christians and our institutions have too often scandalously failed to uphold the institution of marriage," the group rejects same-sex marriage. The declaration states that opening a legal door for gay marriage would do the same for "polyamorous partnerships, polygamous households, even adult brothers, sisters, or brothers and sisters living in incestuous relationships."

 

[Royal Heart]

While I think they're viewpoints are mistaken I think it's dangerous to call them "evil". By doing that you're dehumanizing them and opening the door for directing hatred toward them. That never ends well.

 

[metta]

^
I'm using terms that they use and throwing it back at them, hopefully, encouraging people to question how much they allow that word to manipulate them.

 

[Royal Heart]

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I'm using terms that they use and throwing it back at them, hopefully, encouraging people to question how much they allow that word to manipulate them.

"Throwing it back at them" just exacerbates the problem, although I really do understand the emotions backing that because I've had them, too. Strong feelings of wanting to do to them what they've done to others. I really do get that, but it doesn't actually solve anything. All it does is perpetuate the hate. Hate cannot be absolved by more hate.

I think it's important to question the idea of "evil", but the intent to do so should be more clear from the outset.

 

[Txgoodoldboy]

Evangelicals, Catholics: Gay Marriage Paves the Way to Incest

This is such a strange excuse. Incest has been a problem, like forever. Give me a break. They need to remove the log from their on eye.

 

[gsdx]

While I think they're viewpoints are mistaken I think it's dangerous to call them "evil". By doing that you're dehumanizing them and opening the door for directing hatred toward them. That never ends well.

These are the same people who are declaring bankruptcy in order to avoid lawsuits after which they would undoubtedly be paying out millions of dollars to all the young boys their priests abused over and over again. As much as they try to play it down and ignore it, that is 'evil'.

So much for 'casting the first stone', huh?

 

[Royal Heart]

These are the same people who are declaring bankruptcy in order to avoid lawsuits after which they would undoubtedly be paying out millions of dollars to all the young boys their priests abused over and over again. As much as they try to play it down and ignore it, that is 'evil'.

So much for 'casting the first stone', huh?

How is the application of the concept of evil in this specific instance helping to solve the problem at hand? From where I'm sitting it looks like it's just creating more problems.

 

[gsdx]

How is the application of the concept of evil in this specific instance helping to solve the problem at hand? From where I'm sitting it looks like it's just creating more problems.

I was commenting on this post of yours:

While I think they're viewpoints are mistaken I think it's dangerous to call them "evil". By doing that you're dehumanizing them and opening the door for directing hatred toward them. That never ends well.

Every argument they have used against us applies to them, except that it applies to them a whole lot more. You rarely hear of priests having sex with grown men. (I can think of only one off the top of my head.) But there have been accusations for many, many decades of priests preying upon the innocents placed in their care to provide them with sexual gratification.

But they are the closest thing to godliness and their parishioners are far-too-quick to forgive them or to deny outrightly that such behaviour even happened.

It blows my mind how long they have been allowed to break the law with barely a slap on the wrist as punishment.

But they are allowed to punish gay people by denying them basic rights enjoyed by everyone else.

(By the way, please try to convince me that Rev. Fred Phelps isn't evil.)

 

[Royal Heart]

Ah, I was mistaken. I read it as wielding their methods against them rather than pointing out that their own methods apply simultaneously to them, which I agree with.

 

[star-warrior]

Ahem, the story of Lot is all about incest, and it's alright with God, as he lets his daughters raise the get of their rape of their father, with no consequences, reprisals or godly acts of vengence whatsoever...

 

[metta]

Will Catholic Bishops Start Denying Communion to Gay Marriage Supporters?




http://gayrights.change.org/blog/vi..._denying_communion_to_gay_marriage_supporters

 

[grantt]

This thread may better have been about "Evil Religious Leaders". Christian leaders may condemn you, but Muslim leaders will kill you.