Explaining the Narcissistic Rage of the Left

[ballcaphair]

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This is not about quotas or numbers. These are real people shooting people and Kapernick is feeling his people. I think shootings change lives forever. Victims, shooters; lives are changed. This changes everything.

 

[gsdx]

These are real people shooting people and Kapernick is feeling his people.

And I might emphasise that it is not just about black people being shot and killed. It's innocent, unarmed black people being shot and killed by cops! That's the important bit. When it comes to black people, police shoot first.

 

[Kulindahr]

This is not about quotas or numbers. These are real people shooting people and Kapernick is feeling his people. I think shootings change lives forever. Victims, shooters; lives are changed. This changes everything.

It doesn't even take a shooting: I and a few other people I know have employed guns for self-defense merely by showing we had them, and we agree that just having made the decision that we might actually shoot at another human being changed us. The few LEOs I know who have drawn a sidearm agree.

 

[Kulindahr]

And I might emphasise that it is not just about black people being shot and killed. It's innocent, unarmed black people being shot and killed by cops! That's the important bit. When it comes to black people, police shoot first.

Excellent point.


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[Benvolio]

Excellent point.


For those who don't know the background of that image: here.

So the cop intended to shoot the white man whom he thought was shooting the Black man. Shooting the Black man was an accident and no more. There will always be accidents by humans and should not be the subject of protests.

 

[Kulindahr]

Not really. Our internal problems are increasing as the influence of the Puritans and Protestants in general have decreased, Modern democracy was born of the independence and self reliance engendered by the Protestant Reformation. That is the major reason why democracy and innovation have flourished is Protestant countries and struggled--and continue to struggle--in Catholic countries where people are taught to accept authority.

In short, we've lost some Puritan virtues and embraced their worst vices -- arrogance and self-righteousness.

Interestingly, one of the biggest boosts to Protestant virtues came from something you despise: immigration.

 

[Kulindahr]

You are reinforcing the notion that some of us pay and some of us do not; some are worthy of respect and some are not; some are entitled to equal protection and some are not. This is about free speech. It is a way to demonstrate that everyone deserves expression, even those with tiki torches. About half of us support this protest and half do not. I don't agree with your opinion, but you're entitled.

I was pondering this and thinking what if I were a player. I decided I'd try to get the entire team to take a knee.

 

[Kulindahr]

This is not about free speech, as no one questions their legal right to protest. But the fans pay big money to enjoy the game and have lifted the players from welfare to wealth in the process. Now when they go they have are slapped in the face by ungrateful players eager to express their hatred of whites and America.

Good grief, you have a twisted and shallow soul! "Hatred of whites and America"? Only some perverse bigotry would see that in what they're doing!

 

[Kulindahr]

Refusing the custom to stand for the national anthem is divisive, the very antithesis of We the People. The purpose of standing is to show solidarity and unity, especially with the people who have and are fighting and dying for our county. The purpose of no standing is to show rejection of that unity.

Rubbish. Not standing in order to make a point is the ESSENCE of "the land of the free and the home of the brave" -- and dissing it disrespects that.

I've refused to stand for the anthem on several occasions, notably after government assassins killed innocent people at Ruby Ridge and at Waco. I've also refused to stand and join in the Pledge of Allegiance out of respect for "We, the people" because some of the people were being treated as less than others.

Your approach smacks of jack-booted thugs coercing conformity under the color of law.

 

[kallipolis]

Your approach smacks of jack-booted thugs coercing conformity under the color of law.

Noteworthy.............

 

[Kulindahr]

You've said that magic word. That's all it is... 'custom'. As has been pointed out before, it is only at a few sporting events where it's played.

Do a little homework and you will discover that it wasn't even 10 years ago that football players started standing on the field. Before then, They Were In The Bloody Locker Rooms NOT Standing For The Anthem. Until then, their custom was to sit on their asses.

I never even thought of that, but you're right. I can remember games where it was the anthem, then everyone kept standing as a cannon went off and the teams came charging out.

Now I'm wondering what PR flack decided there was a profit in changing that.

 

[Kulindahr]

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Yes, but the more telling correlation has nothing to do with color, but with poverty and secondarily with extreme disparity in wealth.

 

[mikey3000]

This is not about quotas or numbers. These are real people shooting people and Kapernick is feeling his people. I think shootings change lives forever. Victims, shooters; lives are changed. This changes everything.

So lets play with numbers then. Here's the challenge...How many black, unarmed males have been killed by cops vs. how many unarmed men have been killed by blacks? GO!

Yeah, i didn't think you'd take that challenge.

 

[Stardreamer]

So lets play with numbers then. Here's the challenge...How many black, unarmed males have been killed by cops vs. how many unarmed men have been killed by blacks? GO!

Yeah, i didn't think you'd take that challenge.

One would think that you would appreciate the significance of murders done by the abuse of governmental authority to use deadly force and why it is more significant than more conventional murders. The former should always be a matter of sigificant concern no matter how small the numbers are in comparison.

 

[Benvolio]

One would think that you would appreciate the significance of murders done by the abuse of governmental authority to use deadly force and why it is more significant than more conventional murders. The former should always be a matter of sigificant concern no matter how small the numbers are in comparison.

Of course. But most police killings of unarmed civilians, black or otherwise, are undoubtedly self defense or mistaken self defense. The "Black Lives Matter" ideology is based on treating mistakes as intentional racist murderers, which few, if any, are.

 

[ballcaphair]

Of course. But most police killings of unarmed civilians, black or otherwise, are undoubtedly self defense or mistaken self defense. The "Black Lives Matter" ideology is based on treating mistakes as intentional racist murderers, which few, if any, are.

Oops?


Really?

 

[kallipolis]

Of course. But most police killings of unarmed civilians, black or otherwise, are undoubtedly self defense or mistaken self defense. The "Black Lives Matter" ideology is based on treating mistakes as intentional racist murderers, which few, if any, are.

Your logic escapes my understanding.

 

[gsdx]

Of course. But most police killings of unarmed civilians, black or otherwise, are undoubtedly self defense or mistaken self defense. The "Black Lives Matter" ideology is based on treating mistakes as intentional racist murderers, which few, if any, are.

Do you think that protester in Charlottesville was justified in driving his car into the crowd and killing that woman?

 

[Benvolio]

Do you think that protester in Charlottesville was justified in driving his car into the crowd and killing that woman?

No. Was the protester a policeman?

 

[Kulindahr]

Of course. But most police killings of unarmed civilians, black or otherwise, are undoubtedly self defense or mistaken self defense. The "Black Lives Matter" ideology is based on treating mistakes as intentional racist murderers, which few, if any, are.

But the courts don't treat them that way -- that's the way non-cops are judged. Thanks to a vague federal court ruling, cops are judged by whether they felt themselves in danger -- not by whether a reasonable person would have felt in danger, but whether they did.

So while these may not be "intentional racist murders", they are done by cops who know they don't have to meet the standard anyone else would.