Explosions, shootings reported in central Paris

[NotHardUp1]

Final answer is plastic is much much more useful than bronze.

I guess that is the final word on it then. I do concede that plastic CAN BE most useful. Far be it from me to want to separate you from your god.

 

[Telstra]

^ So childish or unstable ...

 

[Benvolio]

I don't respect him and don't bother to get his name right. I emphasize his middle, Islamic sounding name to emphasize his muslim background and loyalty. I object to his flooding the county with muslims, knowing that we cannot adequately weed out the terrorists.
The sad truth is he is hostile to the country of which he is President. He is racist and wants to destroy the white, Christian majority. He hates our free enterprise economy, is contemptuous of our political system, refuses to accept Constitutional limits on presidential power, and clearly is working for a one party, pseudo democracy like Chicago.

 

[Telstra]

I don't respect him and don't bother to get his name right. I emphasize his middle, Islamic sounding name to emphasize his muslim background and loyalty. I object to his flooding the county with muslims, knowing that we cannot adequately weed out the terrorists.
The sad truth is he is hostile to the country of which he is President. He is racist and wants to destroy the white, Christian majority. He hates our free enterprise economy, is contemptuous of our political system, refuses to accept Constitutional limits on presidential power, and clearly is working for a one party, pseudo democracy like Chicago.

Untrue, false and false.

 

[Kabluey]

Back to Paris itself, it's fairly remarkable how quickly the group responsible have been identified and (mostly) captured or killed by the authorities.

 

[Kabluey]

I'm not a psychiatrist but no doubt there will be a few so called experts offering their expert opinions on the whys, and wherefores of the mastermind behind the Paris massacre. I shall not waste my time reading their opinions.

In terms of profiling to determine at-risk individuals, it might be worthwhile.
That said, any personality patterns detected would probably be too widespread in the general population to be of use for detecting actual terrorists.

In western countries, terrorist numbers seem to be considerably less than 1 per million population.

 

[kallipolis]

In terms of profiling to determine at-risk individuals, it might be worthwhile.
That said, any personality patterns detected would probably be too widespread in the general population to be of use for detecting actual terrorists.

In western countries, terrorist numbers seem to be considerably less than 1 per million population.

Terrorist organisations have accumulated sufficient experience to be able to second guess the responses of the security services, by using people who would not normally attract the attention of the experts who work on profiling. The Belgian born mastermind of the Paris massacre grew up in a business family with no reason to complain about his standard of living. He was able to travel from Belgium to Syria regularly without attracting the attention of the security services. The predictable response of the authorities is to focus on those from the so called sink estates surrounding Paris, with a chip on both shoulders the result of their impoverised upbringing, and current poverty stricken circumstances. The terrorist leaderships have wised up to this reality by using "volunteers" whom the authorities would not normally suspect of being involved in terrorism.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Terrorist organisations have accumulated sufficient experience to be able to second guess the responses of the security services, by using people who would not normally attract the attention of the experts who work on profiling. The Belgian born mastermind of the Paris massacre grew up in a business family with no reason to complain about his standard of living. He was able to travel from Belgium to Syria regularly without attracting the attention of the security services. The predictable response of the authorities is to focus on those from the so called sink estates surrounding Paris, with a chip on both shoulders the result of their impoverised upbringing, and current poverty stricken circumstances. The terrorist leaderships have wised up to this reality by using "volunteers" whom the authorities would not normally suspect of being involved in terrorism.

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_wen ticks get on make tock any time _
"planet survie see or last episode"
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*ooh *
200?
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anyway

long a world weeder get flight points
ans relgion weeders new slippars ad tise join now 2 fa 1
" ans public?"
tey got interet 2 play wit

tinku

 

[kallipolis]

ISLAMIC STATES is definitely organised....no doubt....for their successes evidence this fact of life...a dreadful fact of life.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

ISLAMIC STATES is definitely organised....no doubt....for their successes evidence this fact of life...a dreadful fact of life.

wike u s a states euro states china states etc so on
" 2zillion hamburgas ta go"
tinku

 

[NotHardUp1]

Back to Paris itself, it's fairly remarkable how quickly the group responsible have been identified and (mostly) captured or killed by the authorities.

The math surely helps when six of the eight self-destructed and a seventh was shot in the act. The French had to get one out of the eight.

However, it is remarkable both in Paris and in the Boston bombing that a dragnet still works in modern times.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I don't respect him and don't bother to get his name right. I emphasize his middle, Islamic sounding name to emphasize his muslim background and loyalty. I object to his flooding the county with muslims, knowing that we cannot adequately weed out the terrorists.
The sad truth is he is hostile to the country of which he is President. He is racist and wants to destroy the white, Christian majority. He hates our free enterprise economy, is contemptuous of our political system, refuses to accept Constitutional limits on presidential power, and clearly is working for a one party, pseudo democracy like Chicago.

You are too modest. The word "bother" has nothing to do with it, as you plainly confess here: your admission that you are using disrespect as a means of subversion to further your white supremacist agenda is a revelation to no one.

Your fellow citizens elected President Obama not once, but twice in an open and fair election that owes nothing to a monolithic or other Chicago base.

The suggestion that President Obama is secretly Muslim is ludicrous, and the insinuation that the religion of his ancestors is in some way damning is comical. Even if Islam were something to apologize for, and it is not, your attack is the equal of someone holding you personally at fault for the lynchings your father and grandfather conducted under their white sheets.

Sour grapes is a fitting description of your petulance. But then again, you've lost the country to your brand of hatred and xenophobia, so it must be a bitter change indeed to see President Obama every day represent the change that has happened in this country. At the same time, you find a tiny man with no leadership in Donald Trump as your party flounders in its attempt to define itself in any form that could win the next election.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

huntin downs ans killin kind a easy fa apeess world ova
_killin basics_
yea
" bet ya video game cum out "
* is out *
coor at quick

tinku

 

[rareboy]

I don't want to speculate......but since 9-11 and after reading many accounts of intelligence gathering in the 20th and 21st century....I often wonder if in some cases, there is already intelligence out there that knows who the group is and where they are located....and that the west still continues to play the dangerous game of letting cells (less so individuals) set plots and gather weapons in order to successfully prosecute them.What gets missed in the noise is that sometimes groups, aware they are under some sort of general surveillance send out confusing information and signals about what and when they are planning a terrorist act.

I have a feeling that this may have been partly the case here...although as has been noted, if seven bodies can be identified, it usually takes no time at all to drill down on their associates and neighbours.

It was also interesting that after months of scuffling in Raqqa...suddenly after the Paris bombings, France knows exactly where the attacks were planned and is able to bomb the shit out of the site. Unless they didn't know and just bombed the shit out of any place they knew was held by ISIS.

The first casualty of war is always the truth.

And sadly, there are already eight other terrorists planning to get their revenge.

 

[sixthson]

Back to Paris itself, it's fairly remarkable how quickly the group responsible have been identified and (mostly) captured or killed by the authorities.

I have always believed that a joint effort between the west and Europe and other freedom loving peoples, with all the combined power and intelligence, could really take down many of these groups without actually having to go to war with countries or nations at the cost of many innocent lives. We have the ability and knowledge and power to identify, capture and kill these enemies. They really are not that smart. This just needs to be seen as a "forever" thing. No more tracking down and eliminating one group, then sitting back waiting for an attack somewhere else. Our great nations need to work together and not individually...each protecting it's own country while supporting the others. The UN is pretty much a flop, so they should not be used as any kind of model, however.

 

[sixthson]

I don't want to speculate......but since 9-11 and after reading many accounts of intelligence gathering in the 20th and 21st century....I often wonder if in some cases, there is already intelligence out there that knows who the group is and where they are located....and that the west still continues to play the dangerous game of letting cells (less so individuals) set plots and gather weapons in order to successfully prosecute them.What gets missed in the noise is that sometimes groups, aware they are under some sort of general surveillance send out confusing information and signals about what and when they are planning a terrorist act.

I have a feeling that this may have been partly the case here...although as has been noted, if seven bodies can be identified, it usually takes no time at all to drill down on their associates and neighbours.

It was also interesting that after months of scuffling in Raqqa...suddenly after the Paris bombings, France knows exactly where the attacks were planned and is able to bomb the shit out of the site. Unless they didn't know and just bombed the shit out of any place they knew was held by ISIS.

The first casualty of war is always the truth.

And sadly, there are already eight other terrorists planning to get their revenge.

Maybe we have too many pussies running our countries who are afraid to kill the killers? They wait until they have the approval of the masses, usually at the expense of innocent lives.

 

[Benvolio]

You are too modest. The word "bother" has nothing to do with it, as you plainly confess here: your admission that you are using disrespect as a means of subversion to further your white supremacist agenda is a revelation to no one.

Your fellow citizens elected President Obama not once, but twice in an open and fair election that owes nothing to a monolithic or other Chicago base.

The suggestion that President Obama is secretly Muslim is ludicrous, and the insinuation that the religion of his ancestors is in some way damning is comical. Even if Islam were something to apologize for, and it is not, your attack is the equal of someone holding you personally at fault for the lynchings your father and grandfather conducted under their white sheets.

Sour grapes is a fitting description of your petulance. But then again, you've lost the country to your brand of hatred and xenophobia, so it must be a bitter change indeed to see President Obama every day represent the change that has happened in this country. At the same time, you find a tiny man with no leadership in Donald Trump as your party flounders in its attempt to define itself in any form that could win the next election.

Actually, Obama grew up in his early years with a Muslim step father in a muslim country and when he met Rev Wright he was "steeped in islam" and Wright could not say if he was converted. I did not mention grandfathers.
The election is no over yet. Obama is bring in thousands of muslims asap without having the ability to investigate or vet them. How will the electorate react when there is another terrorist incident in the US as a result? It is a little to early for the dems to gloat over the triumph of their racism and their destruction of the old America.

 

[kallipolis]

It is well known that President Obama attended a Christian school for some four years when living in Djakarta, Indonesia.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/08/AR2010040805858.html

I quote:

While Obama went to Besuki, a mostly Muslim school, for less than a year, he spent most of his four years in Indonesia studying at Santo Fransiskus Asisi, a Roman Catholic school run at the time by a stern Dutch priest. Classes began and ended each day with Christian prayers.

 

[rareboy]

Maybe we have too many pussies running our countries who are afraid to kill the killers? They wait until they have the approval of the masses, usually at the expense of innocent lives.

Or maybe we have leaders that still respect the rule of law. Given the travesties that already occur within our justice system along with mob lynch mentality and rancid rampant racism, the consequences of not having 'pussies' running our countries is too horrifying to contemplate.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

I have always believed that a joint effort between the west and Europe and other freedom loving peoples, with all the combined power and intelligence, could really take down many of these groups without actually having to go to war with countries or nations at the cost of many innocent lives. We have the ability and knowledge and power to identify, capture and kill these enemies. They really are not that smart. This just needs to be seen as a "forever" thing. No more tracking down and eliminating one group, then sitting back waiting for an attack somewhere else. Our great nations need to work together and not individually...each protecting it's own country while supporting the others. The UN is pretty much a flop, so they should not be used as any kind of model, however.

ooh dear

tinku