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Facts & Fictions About Cut & Uncut Cocks

those guys had trouble getting hard because they were in a competition to get hard and cum before another guy.. they had loud guys intentionally distracting them and lots pf pressure... which is why it was a competition.

Most guys also just jack off when they're horny.. not when the jack-off race is scheduled, and that was part of the "Fratmen Friday" show we do at 6:30 on Friday nights...
 
Westwood,

Further, you have no right to impose your values and beliefs on us or our culture?

In general I agree with you, but not when it comes to morals. This is a moral issue; it's OK to circumcize kids or it's not, regardless of culture.

When people call it male genital mutilation it's because they believe a cut penis is less sensitive. If that's true, then the term is perfectly accurate. It hasn't been proven so far, but obviously cut penises are keratinized.

SuperDodgy,

Are you offering?
 
westwood,

Look at the tile of the thread. Talking about uncut cocks (morals, esthetics, etc.) is what we're here for.

I'm hardly a Jerry Falwell. And by the way, I'm an American as well.
 
OK, I'm getting tired of this, but one last post.

Whether or not cut penises are less sensitive is a factual matter, not a moral one, hence it complies with the title.

I haven't tried to shove anything down your throat. I've never told you what to do with your penis. In fact I've hardly said anything on this thread at all.
 
Well, there you go. There's one advantage to having a prepuce. You can experience the sensation of the foreskin sliding over the glans penis when you become erect. Of course, cut guys can't. Actually I mentioned this in one of my initial posts on this thread.
:D

Guess I didn't explain it all that well. I wasn't thinking about the sensation during erection, but instead of focusing on manifestly sexual acts, I was trying to describe how a cock with a moving part feels during the mundane acts of everyday life, in all of a cock's many articulations. It just feels good being there...
 
I am uncut american, I have read several articles on this. One in particular says the partner recieves the most from an uncut cock. Instead of a jagged rough head being pushed in and out, you have a smooth glide. This enhances sensation for woman and men. Exspecaily ANAL.

Er... surely that's what lubrication is for, either the synthetic KY/Astroglide kind, or the normal kind that the glands inside the vagina produce during arousal?

Honestly, it's not like us circumcised guys have broken bottles instead of cock heads, you know. Last I checked, mine was made of skin and not rusted nails.

When I do anal I use my foreskin as a guide to enter. God made us with it for a reason, I believe this is why.

I'm not so sure God had anal in mind when people were designed, really.

-d-
 
The difference is, one tastes better. ;-)

Okay... okay...

Actually, I've found the uncut tastes quite a bit better. As an uncut myself though, the only issue seems to be that there's more effort required in the hygiene department. That, and I do get the impression that the uncut ARE more sensitive than the cut. At least I am... but those are just my experiences.
 
Anyhow, there are quite a few American guys opting not to lose their prepuce these days. The helmet to anteater ratio is steadily decreasing by the day in the good ole USA. Sure sounds like a catch phrase to me. We're the endangered species around the world, not the anteaters. :D

"opting out?" what logorrhea! In most cases, this "choice" opting for circumcision is done at infancy by their usually uninformed parents.

If anything, this "decrease" most likely, merely reflects the traditional steady rate of births in the Hispanic community (who traditionally do not cut), and the continued drop in births within the 2nd and 3rd generations of the non-hispanic and african-american communities.

If anyone else sees any flaws in my theory, please feel free to comment...
 
The difference is, one tastes better. ;-)

Okay... okay...

Actually, I've found the uncut tastes quite a bit better. As an uncut myself though, the only issue seems to be that there's more effort required in the hygiene department. That, and I do get the impression that the uncut ARE more sensitive than the cut. At least I am... but those are just my experiences.

Taste-- you bet. Now that you bring it up, I agree with you. What do you think about difference in smell? I'm sure that human beings are subliminally more sensitive to smells of all kinds than we realize. When I saw this thread a couple days ago I was thinking of how to describe the difference in smells --both of them good smells by the way -- and thought that cut dicks smell kind of like warm rain on hot pavement, and uncut kind of like an ocean breeze.
 
Why not? Like cliterodoctomy, male circumcision removes fuctional tissue that has been demonstrated to be filled with nerve endigs that are involved in sexual pleasure; like cliterodoctomy, it is extremely painful; like cliterodoctomy, it is unnecessary.

Now, no one knows if the clitoris is actually involved in female orgasm, and it has been postulated that it is the contraction of the pelvic and vaginal muscles that lead to orgasm in women, and not stimulatio of the clitoris.

I think most people - especially women - would tell you that the clitoris is quite heavily involved in inducing orgasm in women, to the point where you can distinguish between a vaginal (g-spot) and clitoral orgasm.

Incidentally, if you're a bi guy, you'll want to know this. And the ladies will want you to know it. You can thank me later.

As for HIV transmission, the study is contradictory and shows a very, very small decrease in the risk of transmission. And even if it does decrease the risk of transmission, wearing a condom is far more effective and less painful as a deterrrence than cutting off part of your genitalia. Again: the supposed "benefits" of circumciision are contradictory or so insignificant and easily obtainable by other means that undergoing a painul operation or obtaining them is just ridiculous.

Actually, there has just - in the last 5 weeks or so - been a fairly good study published which was all over the BBC and CNN about the significant decrease in HIV in circumcised males in Africa.

So now a medical association is an expert at ethics and jurisprudence? This is not a medical but rather a legal and philosophical issue. It is up to jurists and ethicists to decide this, not for doctors.

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Ethics of the equivalency of all before the law gives a ressonant no, and a medical association is only entitled to provide evidence for the benefits and risks of medical procedures, and then it's up for jusrists to determine the legality of it.

In most cases, an ethics review board will have a range of people - scientists, medical people, legal people and others - on hand to review this sort of thing. I speak as someone who regularly has to have his PhD study evaluated by the university's medical ethics committees; you can take my word as gospel.

There are no demostrated benefits, and the supposed ones can easily be obtained in a more efective and thorough way by other means.

But often they aren't, which is why so many guys end up getting the chop "for medical reasons" later in life. I have a friend in this group, whom we call "Knobrot" for that very reason.

However, I don't know any cut guys who've needed an amputation for medical reasons.

Funny that no other medical association in the World agrees with the AMA...

You mean in all the 5th world shitholes?

You mean how one study showed a minuscule devrease in transmission rates in Africa, when in reality wearing condom represents a much more effective presenvtive measure? You make this so easy for me...;)

Yeah... the reality, though, is that people are NOT wearing condoms, which is why HIV is such an issue. Should we try to give them an advantage by suggesting circumcision, or should we discourage it and leave even more AIDS orphans to starve than there already are?

You are presumably living in the 1st world; let me help you understand the 3rd world perspective, here.

Let's see. The Webster Concise Dictionary defines mutilation as:

Mutilate: To remove bodyparts through cutting; to excise by force.

So, yes, it does qualify as mutilation.

In which case, all surgery is mutilation. Round up all the surgeons and have them sent to the Court of Human RIghts in the Hague immediately.

As for harm, have you ever even weatched a circumcision? I have seen it once one video, and it is gruesome, horrible stuff. The baby screams it lungs out, his heart rate goes to 180 beats per minute, plasma levels of glucocorticoids, which are associated with stress, rise dramatically, and the infant then passes out into a comatose state that lasts up to three days.

That sounds like an average kid having a quick vaccination jab. Yes it's stressful, but I gotta tell you the bit about the coma seems a little OTT to me.

I have a mate who's a surgeon at a local government hospital, and he's never mentioned it, to be honest... I'll take your report with a pinch of salt unless you can link me to a reputable source, okay?

Did you even read what I wrote? I said that all other cultures that practice this mutilation besides the U.S are Fifth World shitholes.

Wow - won't our Israeli JUBbers appreciate that.

And you're right - that whole prosperous Persian Gulf/Saudi/Emirates/Bahrain region is so backward, even though they have all that oil. No electricity, cars, aircraft... nothing. I wonder how they survive.

Keep telling that to yourself! Lol! A guy cut off part of your genitalia at birth with a shrp scalpel. How demeaning!

What is wrong with you? It's not like our dicks don't work! We all do quite nicely, thanks very much, and don't feel demeaned at all. There is a lot more to each of us than the x-many iches of dick everyone gets so preoccupied with, and even when it comes to the dick there is no need to be concerned ofr us, because really, we're fine.

-d-
 
Taste-- you bet. Now that you bring it up, I agree with you. What do you think about difference in smell? I'm sure that human beings are subliminally more sensitive to smells of all kinds than we realize. When I saw this thread a couple days ago I was thinking of how to describe the difference in smells --both of them good smells by the way -- and thought that cut dicks smell kind of like warm rain on hot pavement, and uncut kind of like an ocean breeze.

Well I hadn't associated the scent of Glade Plug-Ins with penises until reading that. Now I can't wait to tell someone I smell like an ocean breeze :p

Naw, but I guess the only real difference I've noticed is that the head of the uncut seems to have a stronger smell to it than an uncut.
 
Handsome Asshole, in the case you're interested in knowing the medical benefit of neonatal circumcision, I'll fill you in. The incidence of urinary tract infection (UTI) in infancy is significantly higher for uncircumcized male infants. You know, with the soiled diapers providing a fertile environment for bacterial growth and subsequent infection. Untreated infant UTI can result in kidney damage/failure or even sepsis. Unfortunately, UTI or other infections in infants can very easily lead to sepsis which can be fatal. The infant, as opposed to older children and adults, is more susceptible to infection and sepsis (septicemia) because the immune system isn't fully developed.

A few years ago I had to do a review of the world medical and psych literature on routine male circumcision. I was invited to present it an international symposium. There was an audience of a few hundred medics and psychologists and my paper was well received. A main comment was that I was fair, that I had no discernible bias. That's probably because the medical literature shows significant "confirmation bias" in it--i.e., people tend to consider the work that supports their point of view to be more reliable. Good scientists understand confirmation bias.

So I have to weigh on the UTI literature. A person has to go over the whole literature, not just the publications that tend to support one point of view. On balance, the literature on UTIs hasn't supported routine male circumcision.

A recent addition to the medical discussion that might document a benefit of circumcision is a prospective study (which has more predictive power than retrospective studies) from East Africa in which there was a stastically significant lower incidence of new HIV infection in circumcised men. That’s potentially important, but that correlation doesn’t seem to hold in Europe. Curious. Some of my friends in infectious diseases think intuitively that they see a correlation in North America. Others say no. There's no consensus yet.
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There has already been some good discussion on what circumcision might contribute to total HIV prophylaxis in Sub-Saharan Africa. It’s responsible to raise the question now with respect to other populations, but only “confirmation bias” would immediately generalize those findings elsewhere.

Please believe me, this isn't about zealots chaning public opinion, it's about good medical practice. The consensus from a public health point of view is that routine male circumcision isn't recommended on medical grounds.
 
Something else I found out when I did that review of literature is that people have been discussing this somewhere or other in very heated terms for about 4,000 years.

It's fascinating that there are so many people who have such strong feelings about it. I'm sure it will continue to come up every 2 weeks on JUB.

And one last comment. I'm American and uncut, and it's not so unusual. We have a lot of company in all walks of like, all social classes. There must be tens of millions of us. Seek and ye shall find.
 
Blue cheese... eew.

In the first place, I don't consider you to be an anti-circumcision fanatic from what you've written here as well as previously.

So what made you think I was a fanatic then?
 
It really isn't that difficult to spot a fanatic. All I have to hear or read are those 3 magic words "male genital mutilation". However, if you say you're not one of them, then I believe you. :D

Your response reminds me of how sensitive the topic is. I hadn't realized that the term "genital mutilation" was so heavily value laden because it has been used in anthropology in the US for a long long time without a hint of negative value judgment (for example,in the cateories for "body modifications" in the Human Relations Area Files in which cultural traits are compared) globally).
 
ralph,

never had an uncut cock, but I hear the sensitivity can make for a better orgasm....I have always been "eh" about uncut cocks because of the cleanliness issue. I have seen guys suck uncut cocks with the skin pulled back and with it not pulled back...They look yummy but I don't know if I'd ever suck one.....

Let me start:

I'm uncut and i've read that cut cocks are more numb or less sensitive due to the lack of a foreskin. The cut cock develops a natural protection which causes the numbness or decreasing sensitivity, which means that guys with cut cocks...

1) feel less in sex
2) can fuck longer
3) can't cum hard

Is there any truth in this?
 
I have always been "eh" about uncut cocks because of the cleanliness issue. They look yummy but I don't know if I'd ever suck one.

The cleanliness issue is not a issue. Just have a taste of uncut cocks!
 
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