Fag Muscles

[Apollo]

come get in my bed, i'll show you where your fag muscle is.

i'll give you a hint, it's long and fits snugly in my mouth.

I'll be right over.

*jumps on plane*

 

[Jayden]

lol... your cute ass knew what I meant..

- but just in case...I meant "We're off to the Flame Wars"...mmmK?

No flame wars here. I just think the word 'Fag' on a gay forum board is a bit over the top. Gay men that use that word as a put down ' Hello Perez Hilton' are usually self loathing people.

 

[CenTex22]

I don't like fag muscles on gay men. It just looks unnatural. You know in real life these guys aren't very active or sporty at all and are just doing it for the model thing and cause it looks good to them. They can picture 'the other' in the mirror kinda when it's them and its like bizzaringly narcissistic and also self-pitying in a way.

I mean it seems like these guys have so much insecurity about what a 'real man' is, their real self does not match this macho facade they've made for themselves.

Okay I take that back. I think some of them look good. I think doug jeffres looks good. He is dominant in a natural gay man way that I enjoy. I also like Ray Dragon. But most of them look too 'cartoony' with it and I don't really like that. Like it's not subdued enough for me. It looks kind of ridiculous.

Come to think of it all porn looks so fake and cheesy to me. lol But it's good for adolescent males I think and can be a good social bonding topic.

I can kind of see his point, in a roundabout way. I think it is just the grotesqueness or oddness of seeing an otherwise effeminate man sporting a very muscular body that bothers the OP. He feels like the juxtaposition of the muscles with the "flamingness" only serves to highlight the effeminacy all the more.

I'm not sure that I agree with him, but it is an interesting train of logic to think through, though. Muscles were, once, the badge and mark of hardworking men. Men toiled during the day and the muscles were just natural byproducts of their hard labor. Were women/men attracted to their muscles or to the lifestyle/personality type that their muscles alluded to? I think that the OP is feeling the betrayal between this classical concept of what muscles meant and the modern version of "anyone can be a muscle god!" Muscular men are no longer necessarily masculine men. Their bodies may say "manly" but their personality, mannerisms, voice, etc may say otherwise. The modern race-for-muscles can kind of muddle their appeal as it is usually no longer a sign of a manly person so much as it is a sign of idleness and wealth (comparatively).

That's just my take on the OP.

 

[CGHJ]

I'm for them, I just wish they came in pill form because I don't have the time to get them the old fashioned way.

 

[BabiGayPimp]

Call me the odd one, but I think I know what the OP is talking about. There are guys who are fit simply because they are athletic, do hard physical work, or at least faithfully emulate the look of realness. Then there is this artificially pumped up, circuit bunny, muscle Mary type of look that's quite different from what you see everyday on the street or in most gyms. And that look is kind of cartoonish when paired with an over-processed hair-style; sculpted eyebrows; spray-on tan; garish, revealing, sorbet-colored outfits; and a loud, over the top personality.

 

[Lord Booticus]

I actually have an agreeance with slnattack ... I feel dirty.

While I think the time and effort people spend building muscles is comendable, and certainly something that I myself wouldn't be able to accomplish, I prefer a more natural look to muscles. Someone who's gotten their definition from a life of playing sports, running, swimming, possibly leaping.

Not to say I found a muscular man a turn off, just not what I'm personally looking for in a guy.

Now excuse me while I go take a shower. Twice.

 

[Spiff]

This is stupid. The majority of straight men build muscles "just for show".

 

[G-Lexington]

Here in America, anyway, the entire concert of "natural muscles" is rather oxymoronic, isn't it? Straight OR gay? Any muscular guy you see almost certainly didn't get that way hauling iron ore, or doing heavy farm work. He got that way by going to the gym (and, possibly, via chemical enhancements). One might argue that one should spread the wealth around so as not to overdevelop certain muscles at the expense of others, and this look might seem more "phony" since it points out that the muscles were gym-built rather than nature-built.

But the subtext I get from the OP isn't that "guys should spread the muscle-building around". I get "fags shouldn't build up muscles". But maybe I'm reading too much into it.

Lex

 

[winterknight]

If it's a choice between having "fag muscles" or having a gut that overhangs my trousers by more than I care to contemplate, I know which one I'm choosing.

And the way my genetics works, it's one or the other.

 

[Ares]

Like Mike Tyson?

 

[BabiGayPimp]

This is stupid. The majority of straight men build muscles "just for show".

Yeah, but the straight guys don't usually choose to show themselves like this:

 

[BabiGayPimp]

^That is Carrot Top and those questions would be for him to answer. I think he's gone a bit looney tunes with the muscle look. It's an extreme example, but I have seen many gay men take muscle and turn it into some bizzare kind of living performance art that is far from what we usually think of when we consider muscle jocks, who should be lauded for their efforts.

 

[Telstra]

Yeah, but the straight guys don't usually choose to show themselves like this:

he looks ugly ........ (str8 or gay i don't care).

 

[thatcrap]

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[undisclosed1234]

Muscles that are just purely for show and for a sort of fake sex appeal. They don't actually use them much in the real world and they don't have anything 'natural' about them.

Huh.....that goes for straight people too then.

Anyone in a gym basically.

 

[smoothebottom]

What??

do you even realise the amount of active time it takes to build muscles like the ones you are on about. If you know of a way were guys can get muscular without working on it, please share...

I agree. Just calling them fag muscles makes me wonder if slnattack has any insecurity issues.
I think calling these guys with "fag muscles" as insecure or narcissistic is a common ridiculous stereotype that I dont think gay people should have.
Being in the greek system when I was in undergrad, I have known alot of people that were very built. Most of them didn't seem to have insecurity issues at all or displayed characteristics of narcisism. They just liked to work out, look good, and feel good. Whats the problem with that?
And the simple fact that they could get up 4-5 days of the week at 5-6 in the morning, work out for 1hr +, and follow it up with watching their diets makes them athletes in my book. And at the same time, they were the ones playing intraleague baseball, football, basketball, which speaks only more of their athletic capabilities.

 

[davy]

I don't agree with the op, in that, muscle mary's shouldn't exist.

However, I do find it fascinating that muscle mary's are the ideal body condition that so many of us strive for... And it's interesting because, according to the 2000 census, not only can 66 percent of americans not afford gym membership, they also can't afford to spend the necessary time at the gym to build those bodies.

So, in essence, those of us that do have those bodies are also drammatically more wealthy.

It's nice if you are, but it makes you doubly damned in you can.

 

[Jory]

I don't agree with the op, in that, muscle mary's shouldn't exist.

However, I do find it fascinating that muscle mary's are the ideal body condition that so many of us strive for... And it's interesting because, according to the 2000 census, not only can 66 percent of americans not afford gym membership, they also can't afford to spend the necessary time at the gym to build those bodies.

So, in essence, those of us that do have those bodies are also drammatically more wealthy.

It's nice if you are, but it makes you doubly damned in you can.

Did it say out of the 34 percent of Americans who could afford a gym member ship what percentage have personal trainers?

 

[BabiGayPimp]

Another example of gay muscle as living theater. Nothing detrimental, but another distinctly gay spin on something that is otherwise mundane. You might call it fag muscle, in a humorous sense.

 

[davy]

Did it say out of the 34 percent of Americans who could afford a gym member ship what percentage have personal trainers?

No. The census only gives a picture of how much everyone earns and gives a number of how many people live outside of subsistance living.

Those that live ouside subsistance living are the ones that have the necessary disposal incomes to spend on things, like gym membership.

If you ever get the chance, I totally recommend checking out the census results because it's extremely shocking or just eye opening.