Re: Father-Son Incest
molestation/etc is a generational thing- society decided in the 70s/80s that sex with teens, etc was bad, but for centuries- it was the accepted norm- fathers routinely sold their 13 year old daughters off in marriage to men in their 30s, these girls were having babies/becoming mothers at 14...there was no teeth nashing, hair pulling about the psycholgical impact- everyone just got on with their life...when you say something is wrong, that's when the scars come in- they said homosexuality was wrong for centuries- and many still do, that's where the problems come from....what's wrong is rape, if a hot 30 year old came on to me at 13, I would have been on his lap before he finished to sentence! I had more problems I think learining it all on my own- getting out of that shell- nightmare!
When I first started becoming consciously sexual at 9, and for the next four years, nearly all of my ejaculatory masturbatory experiences, which averaged four to five times daily, were about older guys-- guys in their twenties, thirties and forties -- that I'd seen on TV or in public, but who were always in shape and with lots of secondary sex characteristics (muscles, body hair, etc). I had lots of incest fantasies though not really with my own dad. I fantasized to orgasm
constantly about being with a dad/uncle-like mentor figure, and even fantasized about being the older guy myself.
And four years is a long time to be whacking off as a 9 to 13 year old over something supposedly so abnormal.
When I started actually having sex at 11, it was usually with older boys, though usually teenagers.
By the time I was 14, I had become interested in guys roughly my own age. But I was "warned" by a lot of guys who were my senior by years to expect a change in my interests as I got older. Boys who seemed "too young" to me when I was 25, wouldn't seem young enough by the time I was, say, 45. And that indeed seems to be the natural pattern.
Why? Obviously in the present culture, we've become so politically correct (partly in a valid attempt to protect children from legitimate predators) that almost anything is now dangerous legally. Many States in the US which once had age of consent laws realistically set at 16 or even 14 have now raised them to 18, although some countries still have younger standards.
I think people assume that the boy/man relationship is only for the older guy, that one can expect the "creepy" middleaged dude to be prowling after kids pervertedly, but if the younger boy willingly consents that his agenda is either financial or survival of some sort.
That happens, too, but how does that explain my pubescent obsession with sex from hairy, buff rednecks?
I think the ancient Greco-Roman culture probably had the right idea, in that the father-son type sexual mentor dynamic was not only accepted, but if the murals and urns are to be believed, the older men may have had long silver hair and beards, but they were also built, in shape, lean.
That's the key, I think. The reason we tend to think of the "twink/troll" combination as exploitive and unilateral sexually is because so many guys in western culture fall apart physically in middle age. But back then, they didn't.
My 10 year old lust for always for guys who were decades older but in excellent condition. So the sexual bond seems a natural one: boys wanting sexy older guys before growing up to want boys themselves.
So fucking daddy may not be the wisest idea, but a cuddly uncle you like might be different.
I understand the problem some people have with the concept, even beyond prudeness. But legality and morality aren't synonymous.
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