Female ISIS bomber 'is in Glasgow and going to launch attack at Saturday's VJ commemorations'

[mikemizanin729]

Clearly eliminating this housing benefit will reduce terrorism.

It makes it easier for them.

Why should they be rewarded when honest people have no home? Migrants are invading and harassing.

 

[Kabluey]

The benfits they receive encourage more invaders to come, and make it financially more easy.

Countries with substantially more terrorism have no welfare or housing benefits.
Amazingly enough, most people wanting to leave a war zone, want to do so because they're peaceful.
The overwhelming majority in fact. Note the USA's own prosperity during its own immigration booms, people escaping war, religious persecution.

 

[Benvolio]

It makes it easier for them.

Why should they be rewarded when honest people have no home? Migrants are invading and harassing.

Where do the major parties stand on immigration and benefits?

 

[TX-Beau]

It makes it easier for them.

Why should they be rewarded when honest people have no home? Migrants are invading and harassing.

How do you know "honest" people are the ones with no homes? Poor people are lazy and if they are shiftless and lazy why should they get homes?

 

[sixthson]

Do you really think the people who eat haggis would worry about a little thing like a bomb?

 

[kallipolis]

Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.~George Orwell

The police, and security service are not overly interested in the verbal diarrheia, discharged daily before the general public, and media by supporters of various terrorist organisations...knowing that the authentic terrorist with an agenda is invisible, and silent.

 

[opinterph]

He's supporting the Islamic state. It's illegal to do so.

If Anjem Choudary is engaging in criminal activity, it seems that he should be apprehended and brought to justice. The fact that he is also benefiting from government services is an inconsequential point.

 

[mikemizanin729]

If he's taken to justice, then the taxpayer still has too feed, clothe, and keep him behind bars and he will still do what he's doing in prison.

There should be laws in place for people like him too not be able to claim welfare. He should not be given any kind of housing or welfare because it makes it easier for him to preach his hate.

He is very arrogant and because he's claiming all those benefits he's now encouraging Jihadists to come from Syria and do the same.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Where do the major parties stand on immigration and benefits?

David Cameron has plans to cap benefits and working to control immigration.

Immigration is still a major issue here.

https://www.conservatives.com/Plan/WelfareImmigration

 

[Benvolio]

David Cameron has plans to cap benefits and working to control immigration.

Immigration is still a major issue here.

https://www.conservatives.com/Plan/WelfareImmigration

I was wondering about other parties. Do you have a party benefiting by pandering to the immigrants? Is there a party favoring large scale muslim immigration?

 

[Nick4444]

Just like here -- UK Labour Party is their version of our lib dems. In power far longer than the dems here, liberalism there has managed to destroy what was once one of the most inspired and powerful nations into a country where most Brits are anxious to leave -- Just like the wreckage of the Middle East, the PRC, North Korea, (and the People's Republic of Kalifornystan, which has one of the highest out-migration rates in the country)

 

[mikemizanin729]

That would be Labour.

Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural. It backfired badly.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...K-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

 

[mikemizanin729]

Labour also done a fantastic job of ruining the economy when they were last in charge.

 

[kallipolis]

Labour also done a fantastic job of ruining the economy when they were last in charge.

The banking, and financial service industries virtually destroyed the economies of the United States, and the United States the result of the failure of the bank regulators, to exercise their statutory duty to regulate.

 

[kallipolis]

If he's taken to justice, then the taxpayer still has too feed, clothe, and keep him behind bars and he will still do what he's doing in prison.

There should be laws in place for people like him too not be able to claim welfare. He should not be given any kind of housing or welfare because it makes it easier for him to preach his hate.

He is very arrogant and because he's claiming all those benefits he's now encouraging Jihadists to come from Syria and do the same.

Were the media not enthusiastically reporting Anjem Choudary's speeches the rest of the world would know little about him. It could be argued that the UK media is a platform for hate speech, and incitement to terrorist activity simply by providing Mr. Choudary with a daily outlet for his propaganda. I for one never read anything that flows from the mouth of Anjem Choudary.

Anjem Choudary is London born, and a citizen of the United Kingdom, formerly pracitising as a lawyer. Under UK legislation Mr. Choudary is receiving benefits to which he is entitled.

Should Mr. Choudary's opinions offend your sensitivity you would be well served by not reading the articles that daily appear in the UK press reporting on his political activism.

I'll refer you to the words of an English radical, Tom Paine:

He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.~Thomas Paine

 

[Benvolio]

That would be Labour.

Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural. It backfired badly.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...K-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Multiculturalism was only a posture to begin with. Labor, as with the democrats in the US, realized that immigrants, being poor and unsophisticated in politics, were easy suckers for all proposals to tax the rich Britons for hand outs and benefits to "the poor". If Britons will not always vote Labor [democrat], the solution is simple: [Text: Removed]

 

[Benvolio]

This if from a UK site: http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/pressArticle/83
"The result is now plain for all to see. Even Blair’s favourite think tank, the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), commented recently: ‘It is no exaggeration to say that immigration under New Labour has changed the face of the country.’

It is not hard to see why Labour’s own apparatchiks supported the policy. Provided that the white working class didn’t cotton on, there were votes in it.
Research into voting patterns conducted for the Electoral Commission after the 2005 general election found that 80 per cent of Caribbean and African voters had voted Labour, while only about 3 per cent had voted Conservative and roughly 8 per cent for the Liberal Democrats.
The Asian vote was split about 50 per cent for Labour, 10 per cent Conservatives and 15 per cent Liberal Democrats."

 

[kallipolis]

Figures from 2005..

whereas, the last two general elections in the UK did not produce a victory for The Labour Party....they remain in opposition...how do you reconcile this fact of life, with your contention that immigrants such as Caribbeans, and Africa are solid Labour voters?

It would appear that immigration into the UK has enabled the economy to prosper....for the UK has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the European Union.....and the Conservative Party is benefiting....for it is the governing party....

 

[Benvolio]

Figures from 2005..

whereas, the last two general elections in the UK did not produce a victory for The Labour Party....they remain in opposition...how do you reconcile this fact of life, with your contention that immigrants such as Caribbeans, and Africa are solid Labour voters?

It would appear that immigration into the UK has enabled the economy to prosper....for the UK has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the European Union.....and the Conservative Party is benefiting....for it is the governing party....

The massive immigration, supported by Labor, has produced a backlash against that party an a benefit to Conservatives. If you think the unemployment figure is the only thing in the world of importance, you need to read the posts by Britons on this thread and the thread entitled "Eu pays jobless migrants to come to Britain". If you were British, you would not think that the immigration is such a good thing, no matter how many immigrants inflate the employment figure. They are seeing their once great and highly respected culture being dragged down.
I recently spent three weeks in Britain. We would go to a nearby pub, and sit outside sipping wine and watching the people go by. The women cover themselves, except their eyes, and parade around. The want to be in Britain, take the benefits, but they want nothing to do with the British. They are alien and will always be alien.
It would be interesting to know whether the plot to subvert democracy with immigration originated in the US and spread to Britain, or vice versa. I think Labor borrowed it from democrats. In the US, the democrats have been, since 1865, a party of minorities, and immigrants. In 1965, the democrats controlled Congress and enacted the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 which eliminated the country of origin quota, opening the flood gates.

 

[kallipolis]

you need to read the posts by Britons on this thread

I do.................