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First homosexual caveman found

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Who is surprised at this? I'm not. This shows that the group he lived with respected his feelings. Why can't the fools around us do the same?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8433527/First-homosexual-caveman-found.html

First homosexual caveman found
Archaeologists have unearthed the 5,000-year-old remains of what they believe may have been the world's oldest known gay caveman.

10:00PM BST 06 Apr 2011

The male body – said to date back to between 2900-2500BC – was discovered buried in a way normally reserved only for women of the Corded Ware culture in the Copper Age.

The skeleton was found in a Prague suburb in the Czech Republic with its head pointing eastwards and surrounded by domestic jugs, rituals only previously seen in female graves.

"From history and ethnology, we know that people from this period took funeral rites very seriously so it is highly unlikely that this positioning was a mistake," said lead archaeologist Kamila Remisova Vesinova.

"Far more likely is that he was a man with a different sexual orientation, homosexual or transsexual," she added.
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Where is this rubbish coming from lately!!?? I read that and thought that that was the most ridiculous conclusion anyone has ever come to. Homosexuality was not even defined until recently---in historic terms---and finding ONE grave that was differently "relict" than the others means this?? Nonsense.....
 
This is ridiculous.

People 5000 years ago did not live in caves and could not possibly have understod sexuality as we see it today. Just because they found one man. buried in a way they think was female means nothing. What if they got the sex of the skeleton wrong? What if the person died in some accident and could not be. identified? What if they put the wrong body in. the grave (happens even today)?

What's more, these researchers are imposing their own prejudices on their. interpretations. Homosexuality is NOT men who live like women. It isn't today and iit would not have been 5000 years aago.

This article wasn't originally from April 1, was it? This story sounds a lot like something from The Onion.

(apologies for typos - I'm posting from a phone & editing is impossibe.)
 
T-Rexx said:
This is ridiculous.

People 5000 years ago did not live in caves and could not possibly have understod sexuality as we see it today. Just because they found one man. buried in a way they think was female means nothing. What if they got the sex of the skeleton wrong? What if the person died in some accident and could not be. identified? What if they put the wrong body. in. the grave (happens even today).

What's more, these researchers are imposing their own prejudices on their. interpretations. Homosexuality is NOT men who live like women.

This article wasn't originally from April 1, was it? This story sound a lot like something from The Onion.

(apologies for typos - I'm posting from a phone.)
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Doesn't rule out that the purpose of burying this person this way may have been an deliberate insult. The article suggests this society took funeral rights very seriously. So perhaps the man being buried as a woman was intended to be insulting because of the person's actions or status in life? There are just so many different theories that can be applied here, like a lot of archeology it is all guesswork.
 
^ Agreed. But it could only have been an insult in a society where women were valued less than men. And we don't know how these people viewed that. It could also have been a particular sign of respect.
 
Food for thought … How would a primitive society regard an intersex member of their clan? At least some human hermaphrodites possess a skeletal structure that would be assumed to be that of a male. [related link]
 
I, for one, am tired of homosexuals being lumped up with female feelings, expressions, and interests.
 
Just_Believe18 said:
I, for one, am tired of homosexuals being lumped up with female feelings, expressions, and interests.
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Wise thought that may challenge the reasoning of those so called experts who identify males who sexually interact with other males, as feminine even passive.
 
JockBoy87 said:
Since at least the sexual revolution in the 60s we have become desensitized to the breakdown of gender role delineation. Five-thousand years ago it would have been a big deal. At that, it would be as much a big deal to find a man buried in a dress 100 years ago.

In the Bronze Age, however, gender roles were defined for survival, the rhyme and reason for almost every aspect and rule of human life at the time. This man was given a female burial, something not taken lightly by archaeologists and anthropologists. He might have fulfilled the role of a woman, by gender identity not in tandem with that of his birth, and accepted as such by his society, proving that all three concepts are not modern.

That's why this find is very significant.

I'm now interested in seeing other examples of ancient transgender burials.
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That's what I was trying to say,
Thanks!..|
 
JockBoy87 said:
Since at least the sexual revolution in the 60s we have become desensitized to the breakdown of gender role delineation. Five-thousand years ago it would have been a big deal. At that, it would be as much a big deal to find a man buried in a dress 100 years ago.
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Homosexuality was not a big deal in the ancient world. The greeks and romans. accepted it as normal.. It is only the current "modern" religions that have a problem with it.

That's why these claims about uncovering a homosexual grave are absurd. The researchers are imposing modern values on their interpretation of. ancient behavior.

The ancients were far more enlightened about sexuality than we are today.

(BTW, 100 years ago, it was the routine to dress young boys in girls' dresses until they were of school age. I assume male children who died at that age would have been buried in their dresses. Wonder what future archaeologists will think of that.)
 
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