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Florida straw poll

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It looks like Herman Cain won the Florida straw poll.

Now I know all the problems with straw polls and whatnot, but I think this may be significant. It's the first chink in the armor of Rick Perry.

I'm also interested in the left's responce to this (and I say this as a part of the left :) ). On the one hand, this can be written off as more evidence of the hijacking of the Republican party by the tea party. On the other, the tea party is supposed to be racist, so it's hard to explain why Cain emerged as the winner. I think it shows that the so-called "tea party" isn't some monolithic organization, but a rather loose confederacy with divergent viewpoints within it.
 
The fact that it's a straw pole is still hilarious to me. Again, it doesnt mean anything in my eyes because will all the talk the tea party is doing, they know of their weak tea brands won't have a shot in gay hell of winning a national elections but they are using this as a means to get what they want from the Rep and so far its working. They may not do anything to them in the big election but they can hurt them in the smaller ones and I think they want the Reps to know that even if they get in office, they still have to listen to the tea party. I will give them credit, they have done something the Independents couldn't do the either party and thats help call the shots and be noticed. The question is what will do birther section do once Obama is out of office?
 
The tea party is a loose confederation with diverse issues. I don't think, indeed I never have thought, that the tea party was inherently or consciously racist.

As for Cain's victory, I'd say that's an outlier and should be disregarded pending confirmation through poling. The ones to watch are still Perry and Paul.
 
Apparently, Johnson was not on the ballot.

I've found a Wikipedia page which has assembled all the straw poll results. They are really all over the place. I'm still amazed that Paul's very, very close second place in Ames didn't get more play.
 
There is virtually no chance that Perry will be the nominee. I think Bachmann effectively ended his chances due to her charge of Perry enacting in Crony Capitalism with his Executive Order over the HPV vaccine.

Although I think Bachmann is a loon and completely unqualified for the presidency, I give her credit in serving as one of the primary reasons Perry will be eliminated from being the nominee.

I don't see Romney being the nominee since he is considered to be too Leftist by Republicans ... not to mention the fact that he's a Mormon and we know the Christian Right won't tolerate that under any circumstance.

I know the establishment keeps trying to prop up Romney as a front-runner .... was done in 2008 and with this election as well ... but I just don't see how it is possible for him to win.

Cain ... who knows. Even though a straw poll, it may give GOP voters a reason to take another look at the man.

It isn't going to be Bachmann, as her own campaign is basically finished at this point.

I think the only contenders who possibly have a chance are:

Newt Gingrich
Jon Huntsman
Herman Cain

For the record, I like Huntsman the best.
 
Zingerific said:
It looks like Herman Cain won the Florida straw poll.

Now I know all the problems with straw polls and whatnot, but I think this may be significant. It's the first chink in the armor of Rick Perry.

I'm also interested in the left's responce to this (and I say this as a part of the left :) ). On the one hand, this can be written off as more evidence of the hijacking of the Republican party by the tea party. On the other, the tea party is supposed to be racist, so it's hard to explain why Cain emerged as the winner. I think it shows that the so-called "tea party" isn't some monolithic organization, but a rather loose confederacy with divergent viewpoints within it.
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I think you may be right. Personally, I gringe when I hear the words "Tea Party" but after calming down, I do think there are some genuinely right (no pun) thinking people within that group. The group of Tea Partiers that got sent to Congress simply don't have a clue on what it takes to govern this great nation. Just saying no to some basic ideological perspective isn't governing. I think most of them are over their head and have no clue what to do other than to say no no no. I hope their respective electorant corrects their errors in the next cycle.
 
Ron Paul's pissed at him for running, BTW.
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I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised.

In my view, Johnson is the better candidate of the two. As far as experience, I think a two-term govener always trumps a congressman, no matter how many years in congress they have.

Also, people have already made their decision about Paul. Johnson, as a new face, is more capable to bring new people to the libertarian cause.
 
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