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For all JUB high school teachers ....

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This was posted on our staff room notice board today and I thought it was so 'spot on' I just had to share it with my fellow JUB "chalkies". It relates specifically to the Australian public education system (and certainly to my experience as a public high school teacher for the past 30+ years - especially the last 10 years), but I'm sure teachers the world over can identify with the views expressed. I'd be very interested in reading your reactions.

It's long-ish but well worth reading. Sorry, but I don't know the source of the article .....

SCHOOL DAZE

Why today's classrooms are turning good teachers into bad crowd controllers.


Take another deep breath. It won't slow your heart rate or curb the spurts of adrenaline, but it might help conceal the fear in your voice. Where you are going fear is fatal because you can't follow your normal instinct to fight back or run away.

Inside the classroom your charges await. You can tell by the volume what to expect. Teenage girls bitching, texting, writing nasty letters and flirting with farting teenage boys who are throwing pencils and punches. Soaked with hormones, rampant with adolescent egocentrism, these kids are only interested in improving their lot in the pack hierarchy .... and drawing penises on the whiteboard. The last thing on their minds is learning, yet that is what you, dear teacher, have been entrusted with.

Marking the roll, you have to shout over their iPods and indifference. Waiting for silence doesn't work on those without conscience or respect. You have designed your lesson to engage all your students, including those of 'diverse abilities' (edu-babble for those with the attention span of a junk-food commercial). But your worksheets are being converted into spitballs, paper planes and confetti faster than you can hand them out.

Trying to organise the class over the din, you wonder what the hell you are doing there. No-one is listening. No-one cares. The high-minded pedagogic ideals of the education degree you completed are a distant, irrelevant fantasy. Bugger Piaget and Vygotsky; their child psychology doesn't mean a thing now that you've learned the brutal truth: teaching is crowd control. But unlike the sadists who caned you in the 60's and 70's, you're a riot cop without a water cannon; a lion tamer without a whip.

William Golding, author of Lord of the Flies, was a teacher. He understood that, in the absence of authority, the fragile social order of the adolescent world collapses frighteningly fast. We all know authority without consequence is meaningless - that's why we have fines and prisons. Yet today's public-school teachers are expected to manage and teach large groups of adolescents without enforceable rules.

For the vast majority of public schools, the sacred tenet of Quality Teaching - a classroom environment in which learning of significance and intellectual merit can take place - is pure rhetoric; fancy sounding fluff on the noticebaord in the corner of a dilapidated staffroom.

Teachers today age one year in just nine-and-a-half months. Either you give in to the madness of the system - selling your soul like a spruiker ignored on a busy street - or you burn out trying to fight the impossible fight. You find yourself struggling to sleep, waking at first light with dread like a brick in your heart: What will today hold? Another 15 year old screaming "Fuck off!" in your face with impunity? Being cast as the lead villain by some vindictive vandal from a dysfunctional family? It's not teachers that schools are protecting by refusing to install security cameras in classrooms.

You learned all this the hard way, of course. You varied your approach; you worked on making the syllabus as user-friendly as possible; you held meetings with staff, your class and individual students. But undeveloped adolescent frontal lobes are simply not designed for cooperative collectivism. No amount of namby-pamby common sense is going to persuade a pack of adolescents to do only what's in their best interests.

"To hell with the carrot!" I hear you cry. "Where's the stick?" Herein lies the paradox. When your Department Head agrees that lunchtime class detention would help improve behaviour, but then shrugs his shoulders and says it's probable no-one will turn up, you realise you're in a deeper hole than you thought.

Stunned, you pay the Deputy Principal a visit. But the touchy-feely bureaucrat you encounter is a far cry from the demagogues of days gone by. Reassured by assertions of how important discipline is to the school, you are smoothly directed back to your long-suffering Head of Department (who now has the look of a hunted vole whenever you approach), wielding the school's thick and glossy discipline policy like Don Quixote's lance. It is full of policy. Beyond the non-existent detentions and 'responsible behaviour' classrooms, there are punitive actions such as sending letters to parents warning them that their child could fail if his behaviour doesn't improve, or her work is not completed. Getting the parents involved sounds great in theory. They should care that their child isn't learning. The school agrees, but then points out that that they can only send one or two letters. In other words, pick on two out of 27 who are just as bad as each other.

Then it finally dawns on you. What you thought was an institution devoted to education is actually something else. It is a holding pen for youth. Education is second to keeping young people off the streets. Kids with no intention of learning attend so they can get the dole. As one rowdy fellow told me: "I'm only here for my youth allowance, not to learn, so get off my back."

School executives have betrayed their long-suffering staff by implementing department directives and government policy that directly contradict the discipline policies of their schools. In a monstrous act of double speak, they have made teachers paper tigers; de facto minders for the dysfunctional and disinterested. Those kids willing to learn are hugely disadvantaged because their teacher's time is wasted on management that is doomed to fail.

No wonder parents are abandoning the public school system and going private in search of discipline. Catholic schools are alarmed at the weight of numbers seeking their services. Twenty years ago, the proportion of non-Catholic students attending Catholic schools in Australia was around 20% - now it's 40% and rising.

If there's one thing guaranteed to infuriate a teacher it's a non-educator glibly announcing that at least things are much better than they were "in the old days." I'd like to sentence them to one day - no, that would be inhumane - just one lesson teaching a difficult class and watch them implode. Few teachers would suggest returning to the bad old days of the cane - beating kids into submission is not the answer - but if learning is actually to take place in today's classrooms, then something has to be done.

The funny thing is that when you take one of these adolescent miscreants out of the pack and have a one-on-one conversation with them, they invariably revert to their individual charming selves; the person their parents know and love. You can reach them and you can teach them. But a teacher can only serve the educational needs of the individual when the classroom is under control. Until public schools address this fundamental truth their decline will continue.

Corporal punishment is not the answer, nor is chucking millions of dollars into better computers or meaningless reports, but perhaps something like a Green Corps is. Unmanageable students could be painting benches, planting trees, sprucing up their school or their local community and learning practical skills that might help them find a job. Some will love it; for those that don't, the trials of the textbook might seem like an attractive option after all. Either way, such meaningful discipline would provide a much-needed life lesson in a system that is dragging schools, teachers and students down to the lowest common denominator.
 
A bleak outlook, certainly.
I don't know the state of education in other countries of the world, but my impression of Dutch classrooms is that it's not nearly as bad as the article describes. Sure, there are classes like that, but by no means is every group of thirty kids like that.
 
Not too much different than the lament that was posted in 1974.

I hate to say it, but every class in every school is not like this. So much depends on the teacher and the level of excitement and enthusiasm they bring to their job.

I know it is tough. If we could just get schools to ban cellphones, iPods as well as msg and high fructose corn syrup, our kids would perhaps get a chance to recover from the toxic world they live in and start to pay attention to what they're learning.

If we just started when they were 2 years old explaining that the whole world isn't just about them, we'd all be enjoying school and life more.

Gird your loins and press on regardless.
 
Good article! I'm not a teacher specifically because of situations like that article describes.
Like everything it touches, government fosters this sort of mayhem of mediocrity. Parents who are suckered into the value of government make it worse by setting exactly the wrong examples at home.
I'm repeating myself, but if I ever do take up teaching, it won't be in a government school system. Things like "No Child Left Behind" are feel good jerk-off routines. Some kids flat-out deserve to be left behind. Do what you can for them, but don't let them drag down everyone else by holding progress to a crawl while the slackers wander along the path.


Also, what's a "spruiker"?
 
Interesting read.

My friend and I, right after high school, started university to become teachers. I wanted to teach for teaching, and my friend wanted to teach because he knew he'd miss the drama from high school.

Excellent.
 
Sure, there are classes like that, but by no means is every group of thirty kids like that.
I agree, but you only need a couple of 'shit kids' in a class who are hell bent on being as disruptive as possible and you can end up with mayhem! It's the 'all-kids-have-a-right-to-an-education-and-we-must-always-respect-that' attitude underpinning most behaviour management programmes in schools today that really bugs me. Disruptive kids do the rounds of counselling by the school admin, psychologist, year coordinator, school chaplain; they may be suspended for a time, or even "excluded" (not allowed to say 'expelled' now) for the rest of the year - but only after a panel is formed to consider "all possibilities" and a minefield of administrative paperwork is attended to. They play the system but ultimately they have to be allowed to return to school once their period of exclusion has been served, whether they've 'learned a lesson' or not. And most haven't. It's a joke.

So much depends on the teacher and the level of excitement and enthusiasm they bring to their job.
True, but again, from my experience, and particularly over the last ten years, there appear to be more and more students that I come into contact with, where no amount of "excitement and enthusiasm" I try to bring to my teaching has any positive effect at all on their behaviour or willingness to learn. It's like they're so completely self-absorbed and caught up in their own adolescent urges that I might as well be talking to the wall at the back of the classroom.

If we could just get schools to ban cellphones, iPods as well as msg and high fructose corn syrup, our kids would perhaps get a chance to recover from the toxic world they live in and start to pay attention to what they're learning.
Absolutely no argument there. Mobile phones and iPods are a curse at school and they should be banned completely.

Gird your loins and press on regardless.
I do, every day! ](*,)
 
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a fine posting. there are a lot of truths in this document.

do you notice the difference in the behaviours of the students, especially in the last ten years due to video games, computers, the iPod, the internet and the cell phone and text messaging?

all of them involve non face to face communication. the art of communication between people is being lost and at a rapid rate.

i understand what you are saying and experiencing. my last year of teaching i had two 10th and 11th grade classes with some of the worst behavioural problems i have ever seen. a total lack of sensitivity and or feeling for one another and a complete lack of respect of each other as fellow individuals.

i discovered that year that for the first time i had no bonding with those classes and i really did not care for those students - it was such a difference then my feelings and attitude about my 12 grade class.

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eM.:(
 
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a fine posting. there are a lot of truths in this document.

do you notice the difference in the behaviours of the students, especially in the last ten years due to video games, computers, the iPod, the internet and the cell phone and text messaging?

all of them involve non face to face communication. the art of communication between people is being lost and at a rapid rate.
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eM.:(

OZGUY,
Thanks, I am disappointed at the naive response you got from so many of us. I was in the classroom today for a day teaching Latin. Just three years ago, it would have been unthinkable for one of these students to be rude or disruptive. Today, I was exhausted just trying to teach minimal vocabulary and grammar as well as a very little translation.

Yes Croynan, the iPods, the cell phones, the text messaging, the sleepless nights with kids on cell phones endlessly, and many more who are totally obsessed with video games have made teaching a virtual minefield. I am an enthused teacher and usually a lot of fun, but today, I gave in to my grumpy old teacher self.

Administration has surrendered to the "helicopter parents" who hover and intervene at the slightest little thing. But still, most of the kids make it fun to enter the classroom, I hate to see us lose that. The miscreants who have taken over, and the enabling administrators and parents can only cause this to worsen.

Thanks OZGUY, and with you I will tighten my chin straps and reenter the fray again soon.
Shep+(*8*):kiss:](*,)
 
This could very easily be my middle school...

This was the first year I have ever been cursed at by a parent during conferences. It was my G*@ Damned fault that his no good son of a bitch bastard kid couldn't do anything cause I was a mother-f#cking idiot. (And yes, that is exactly what he said, at the top of his lungs). I've never seen my administrators run before, but they sure did that night! The parent was escorted from the building and barred from direct contact with me.

mikey
 
A lot of this is cultural -- so much of the classroom reflects life back home (on the streets, in the living room, with the gang).

I would have given up except that I have focussed on a smaller group of students and therefore am (so far) spared 25 - 30 kids at a time. That can be the depths of hell, yes it can.

Smaller numbers are MUCH easier to handle!

My biggest problem now is NCLB and the godawful amount of paperwork being thrown on me. If you figure out the time involved, I can do paperwork or teach, but not both. And I'm not paid enough to take it home, so I don't.

So I throw it back: "what should be my priority?" If it's not students -- we're screwed.
 
This could very easily be my middle school...

This was the first year I have ever been cursed at by a parent during conferences. It was my G*@ Damned fault that his no good son of a bitch bastard kid couldn't do anything cause I was a mother-f#cking idiot. (And yes, that is exactly what he said, at the top of his lungs). I've never seen my administrators run before, but they sure did that night! The parent was escorted from the building and barred from direct contact with me.

mikey

At least the admins had your back. I gather not all teachers can rely on even that. Was DHS or someone contacted? Sounds like the kid is the victim of abuse.

It's weird. At the montessori school where I help out, the "helicopter parents" (that's a brilliant term) are a godsend. They help out with everything. They're always around, leading fundraisers, helping with lunch, outings -whatever needs doing. They spent last Saturday manning a garage sale to raise money for the school (after donating the stuff being sold). I've seen parents called in from work because their kids were acting up and after giving the kids a serious talking-to, invite the teachers to spank the kids if they feel the need. Of course the teachers would never use corporal punishment, but it's so refreshing to see parents who simply know the teachers are working for them. They don't coddle the little nits. They love them enough to be firm with them.

We have a system where we're all forced to pay for the substandard government school system, but God forbid we be allowed to redirect any of that money to exemplary programs.
 
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