Fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck! Banned Words.

[ShadowCat]

Seriously?

Well I was trying to make a point.

 

[DepravedMuscleFTL]

faggot is most certainly allowed - the fetish section is riddled with it...

 

[NotHardUp1]

Is it an adult site?

I mean people are whining over not being able to use a couple curse words. Imagine having a vocabulary so small that this is a problem.

Of course, the rub is that the censorship is both arbitrary and isn't even representative of social standards in Britain, Canada, or America where the vast majority of posters and presumably lurkers live.

There seems to be no logic to why it is perfectly acceptable to say a woman is a shrew, but not acceptable to say he was bitching about his job, and the meaning obviously being that he referred to a woman who was shrewish.

Somehow, in the pretentious and rarefied air of not using the N word and all the histrionics of the supposed trauma that merely hearing it induces in the fragile, we're supposed to then beginning banning bad words that mean things that aren't nice. How ridiculous.

If the Jewish race can allow the words genocide and holocaust to be used and remind them of their near extinction while the world listened gayly to Tommy Dorsey, then all these other hypersensitivities seem quite like little Johnny pretending to be Napoleon and ordering about his playmates, as it surely doesn't change society, doesn't change attitudes, and doesn't apparently help race relations in an era in which it has all been ramped up to be the fashionable thing to wave about and pretend is the most meaningful thing people are talking about as they drink their Starbucks.

As for the presumed slight to women, who in their right mind would believe that using the term bitch to describe griping is tantamount to broadly declaring that all griping is feminine and anti-female, or that people using it mean to demean all women? It's absurd and should be challenged.

Are we then to forbid the use of hunk or stud to refer to men since it is blatantly objectifying and reducing men to breeders and disrespectful of intrinsic worth of males aside from being sperm delivering units? The irony of doing so on a site that earns its money from the objectification of men is stunning.

How very unintelligent, and I suspect Cormac's real reason for stirring the pot is a protest against such ill-conceived "reasoning."

As for it being a private website, that isn't enough to ask everyone to park their brains at the door and just come in with their dicks out, is it?

Just as with the banishment of the racial epithet, the banishment of sexist terms is a nannymongering that can't be bothered to simply read the word to see if it is used to insult another or to merely be a colorful figure of speech in rap, or gay slang, or similar. Lumping them all together as "sin" is an oafish and ham-handed mistake.

The forum is about ideas and language, even if most times reduced to tweet-lengths, but expression still matters.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I guess this brings up the question of why isn't there a list of words as a sticky that are listed for all to read that are banned. The site has no problem listing porn stars or celebrities who have formally warned the site not to use their names on the site under any circumstance.

If the site cares so much about pruning language, then make a sticky and have it up top like the heads on the gates of the Tower of London for all to see and be warned. Their selection may be just as arbitrary or disliked, but at least it won't be mere tribal knowledge as to the taboos.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

Just want to touch on the point that you are calling people fragile because they don’t like the use of the N word but you’re making a big stink over Bitch and Cunt which are words I have barely seen used by the few people having a problem with them being banned.

Not really concerned with the censorship or “censorship” happening here on JUB, it is such a minuscule space. You’re literally being asked not to use the word on the forum, not in your everyday life. I mean posts get edited and on an old account I used to write stories on MODs use to edit them, which is why I stopped sharing them here. Not really surprised that specific words are banned from use now.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Fragile is fragile.

Suggesting that great harm comes from literally seeing a word is and has been a falsehood that has been perpetuated, contributing to social and racial division rather than healing it. Using the word as an epithet and using it in a discussion are wholly different things. Seeing a word in print is not some traumatizing event like showing piles of bodies stacked in death camps. It's a word. It's not shocking, PTSD-invoking, or demoralizing. Using it as an epithet and perpetuating its use to promote racism would be something completely different.

When the real issues get addressed, instead of meaningless optics, then real reform can happen. When false issues get elevated to the levels of policy and censorship, then it actually fosters conflict instead of reconciliation. Claiming some word is a forever taboo is mere propaganda.

For my part, I've never used cunt in my life, and I've always found the stereotypical use of bitch by gays to self-aggrandize with diva airs to be trope-ish and demeaning to gays as a group. To be clear, JUB's banning of it on the site has actually made it more pleasant for me since it removed the campy posts of "sisters" who used it to obnoxiously troll the boards.

But, I am not trying to advocate for the forum to be like me, or to favor me. I see a thread with a legitimate complaint against censorship, and I speak out against censorship. We go high order, justly, when the GOP sits silently by as its leaders make war on democracy, and the same apathy should not be our course. Free speech is free speech, private website or not. If the site doesn't see fit to reform its policy or articulate it, then maybe isolate free speech to just one forum, either CE&P or Hot Topics.

After all, it already allows hate speech, so why are two obscenities so taboo?

 

[MusicMan321]

I didn't know some words are banned on JUB who would of thought

 

[Cormac135]

I didn't know some words are banned on JUB who would of thought

And you a MOD

 

[Alistair]

And you a MOD

I guess there's no MOD handbook

 

[HoodedRat]

There will be no naughty words from me ever again on this forum.

 

[Kahaih]

/\ By now, I'm sure that the pages are all stuck together, as the job used to come with a bit of free porn.