Gay Bar Bans Bachelorette Parties

[David DeVour]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

I'm assuming they don't have a strip club for ladies. If I had the money, I'd open one up in Chicago and rake in the bucks. Like I said before, Windsor has Danny's and all the girls from SE Michigan and that area of Canada go there as a rite of passage when they turn 19.

I don't know if they do all-nude in Chicago, and the age would be 21, but the money would still roll in.

 

[jesusfarts]

i will never understand fag hags....

 

[looseliam]

Cocktail is a tiny place anyway. I can't imagine bringing a whole bunch of people there.

 

[slickery]

Straight people should go to straight bars.

I hate seeing straight people in my gay bars, I hiss and spit at them. Why? Because those abrs are where I can go and fully be myself and not have to worry about odd glances or getting called a name. I don't go to their bars and make out with men.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

And I'm glad to see you still hang on my every word.

 

[Ram]

Why do people equate banning hen night parties to banning women?

I'm glad they banned those ridiculous hen nights at the gay bars I frequent regularly now. My straight gal pals and I are here to dance and drink (I don't drink by the way). I didn't fight to get leave from my camp so that I can put up with your barbarous behavior -- even when you're not drunk -- and poor gay stereotypes.

I have never seen so many gay men and women and their straight counterparts collectively telling a hen group to fuck off. I love that night.

I hate hen parties.

At first I thought I was dealing with some latent jealousy that they get to marry or something but no, they were irritating. Even annoying gay and bi people get kicked out. No, I guess I am sexist and homophobic.

"I'm totally losing money because of it, but I don't want the money," Zaharakis said. "I would rather not have the money than host an event I didn't believe in."

This guy from the article, on the other hand, is banning it for the wrong reasons (imo) -- but not because he's sexist. He doesn't believe in marriage. How's he in anyway sexist?

You want your hen parties, you respect the establishment you're in. Same goes for gay guys.

Not all hen parties end like a JUB thread. Some are actually enjoyable and quite entertaining. Girls come, they drink, they talk and dance, watch guys strip and when there's a drag act, they get called up to talk about their boyfriends' dicks.

 

[Alpha1851]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

beside the fact that it traumatizes us gay people.

Yeah, kinda like how some straight people claim to be traumatized when they see two gay men show affection for each other. Some gay folks are all traumatized and some straight folks are all traumatized--hell, let's just all go into therapy. Separate, of course.

 

[Alpha1851]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

Women at bachelorette parties want to watch hot men, drink and party, and not worry about getting picked up on. Thus the appeal of a gay bar. Not saying that it is right to step into a gay bar and take it over, just saying, that would be why certain women would plan their parties there.

That, and there usually isn't a club that caters to women. Especially not w/ strippers.

 

[Ram]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

That, and there usually isn't a club that caters to women. Especially not w/ strippers.

Male gigolo bars? There are some out there. An establishment where guys strip and girls scream and drink.

 

[Antoine.]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

Yeah, kinda like how some straight people claim to be traumatized when they see two gay men show affection for each other. Some gay folks are all traumatized and some straight folks are all traumatized--hell, let's just all go into therapy. Separate, of course.

I did not mean traumatizes me as in seeing heteros kiss and make out as this behavior does not happen usually at bachelorette parties.

but they do dress weird and slutty and scream and yell all over the place and ask for weird favors. that is traumatizing.

 

[Ram]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

but they do dress weird and slutty and scream and yell all over the place and ask for weird favors. that is traumatizing.

Gay people so totally don't do that.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

My idea of inclusion, integration, acceptance, whatchamacallit, is NOT a gay bar where ten or twenty per cent of the public are "tourists" on a daytrip to the zoo. "Wanna see the monkeys?" - "No, we did that last year, let's go see the sissies!"

Also, straight women tend to attract all kinds of vermin, like straight men. Nothing more annoying than a gay bar with ten women and two-hundred men, half of whom come for the women!

 

[Zeno Lorea]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

Why should we be supporting their marriage by giving them entertainment when we're not allowed to get married ourselves?

Well said.

 

[Alpha1851]

Male gigolo bars? There are some out there. An establishment where guys strip and girls scream and drink.

Some, but not many. I live in a major city and the only way to see male strippers is to go to the gay club. And allegedly, most of the strippers are straight. Seriously, they're advertised as straight. So, aren't the women just bonding w/ their own kind. I mean, they're looking at straight men.

Here's where it's really a bit tricky though, there are some gay strip clubs/bars that also market themselves to women. I'm not gay, and I couldn't tell ya where the gay "territories" are. So, if I see an ad for a club in my magazine, or in a beauty shop, or whatever, how am I supposed to know that I'm gonna piss some gay men off if I have a hen party there? It's an awkward situation.

I doubt the women realize that the celebration of their impending marriage is hurting anyone or pissing anyone off (yeah, and what if they're lesbians who can't get legally married either?). But if they're there, and you're there, and you can't ignore them, why not briefly chat them up and throw in a remark about marriage equality. You're there anyway and they're obviously distracting you, so there's nothing to loose. It has the potential to make a big difference.

but they do dress weird and slutty and scream and yell all over the place and ask for weird favors. that is traumatizing.

Uh, yeah, some straight folks are traumatized when gay folks act this way too. I guess some people are just overly sensitive. Seriously though, we're in an economic slump. All this trauma will revive the psych industry.

I definitely appreciate the need to have a fun and safe environment to bond w/ folks who are like minded; however, if the roles were reversed and gay men were banned from having stag nights at a particular straight club, I think some LGB folks would be ready to call HRC or lambda legal. Just some. Of course, I'm sure some wouldn't care too.

 

[Ram]

Again:

Why do people equate banning hen night parties to banning women?

Hen parties are hen parties. Women are women. Unless women are now defining themselves with hen nights instead of their vaginas (because an obvious fact from nature that you're a female is still not a good one), then those bars out there are completely sexist.

If there is a gay bar out there that bans women completely -- hen parties, dykes, mothers, teenage girls, your sisters (although I believe their looks buy them time to enter a only-males bar) -- then you know what? -- we know it's fucking wrong. Heck, I won't support. If I can't bring my friend Stacy into a bar with me, I'm gonna sue someone.

But this ban is only for hen parties.

And don't say first it's hen parties, then large group of women, and then woman. They are banning hen parties because it's either irritating when they don't behave themselves or ideologically, the bar doesn't support marriage. From what I know, getting married and being a total cunt in a bar are choices.


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Here's where it's really a bit tricky though, there are some gay strip clubs/bars that also market themselves to women. I'm not gay, and I couldn't tell ya where the gay "territories" are. So, if I see an ad for a club in my magazine, or in a beauty shop, or whatever, how am I supposed to know that I'm gonna piss some gay men off if I have a hen party there? It's an awkward situation.

That's the establishment's rule. If we don't like it, and we complain, and nothing is done then we take our businesses elsewhere. It's a bar and that's how the owner wants it.

 

[Rex]

This again?

 

[Ram]

ok, so if a group of 9 women, all dressed in nice classy outfits, went to this bar and had a drink they'd be allowed in?

It's not a bachelorette party. Why not?

Even if one of them was getting married and they were out celebrating, but because they were not drunk or wearing typical 'hen night' garb you couldnt tell.
I can only see the difference in that one group is boring and the other is out to have fun.

I don't find the other group boring.

Obnoxious party hats usually are dead give aways. Oh, and the screaming.

In this case, I would say too bad. A bunch of dumb girls in the past have just ruined your night. That's their bar rule. I suppose it's the same for gay guys who have been banned for some reason. The club I go to banned bar top dancing because some dumb twink got drunk and he got up to dance on the bar top and he fell on his head. And sued the bar. So now, the owner has a ban on bar top dancing. Too bad for me. There was this guy with a bubble butt and he wanted to dance and he couldn't... Ugh! Why are they so bar top-ist?

It's really the bar's problem. I don't see why it should affect those girls. It's their money -- they are the customers. You don't like what you see, you just go somewhere else with a better service.

If it's not a hen night, and they are there to have fun. Fuck, come on in if it's my bar. The more the merrier.

 

[Ram]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=257170&highlight=Bachelorette

That thread was a complete disaster thanks to a bad title. It became another "Jasun intervention" thread. The erroneous title, whether due to Jasun's subconscious need to hate women or whatever (I don't care), set a wrong tone for that thread.

It's the same thread, different shit.

There are a lot anti-straight posts by various posters in this thread and yet Jasun got picked out. If this turns into another "Jasun is a sexist bastard" thread, I'm gonna... Oh fuck, we all know it's going to turn into that.

 

[Ram]

I guess i just wont get my head around how people can say somthing like 'more the merrier' but two fingers up to hen partys. Probably the hen partys in manchester are tame compared to the rest of the world.

Two fingers? That's how you flip people off? Huh, things are tamer in Manchester.

Not all female outings are hen nights. =/ So Tommy, are all your female friends constantly on the verge of getting married whenever you to have fun with them? No, no we have to wait for Sally to get married and on the eve, we all will go out okay! It's only 16 months away!

Girls can come in and have fun. BUT I am not there to entertain them. I am there as a customer to enjoy the drinks and erm, the guys. They have paid dancers and bartenders to do that. If you are not bothering me, I won't bother you. But if you start screaming at me, grabbing my dick and all that shit, then fuck off. Same goes for gay guys. To quote Jasun:

I go to gay bars to meet gay men... not to see a big crowd of loud, drunken women in silly outfits screaming and pawing at all the men saying things like "you're such a waste" or "I love gay men.. it's like.. I can come here and not get hit on" as if "not getting hit on" was the goal of everyone in the bar.

 

[GL]

Also, straight women tend to attract all kinds of vermin, like straight men. Nothing more annoying than a gay bar with ten women and two-hundred men, half of whom come for the women!

this is the thing that irritates me about the bachelorette parties ruling the roost. i went to the club a few weeks back and you could see all the straight guys lining the perimeter of the dance floor watching everyone else. it actually feels like there are more straights, guys and gals, there than gay folk. i don't think it hurts the club any, they're always busy but you just don't see all that many gays there anymore. where the hell did all the gays go? they went to other clubs where the ratio of gays to straights is in their favor.