Gay Bar Bans Bachelorette Parties

[Ram]

Yes it is clearer now, thanks for clarifying. I still don't agree though but hey, the sexual tension has to come from somewhere, no?

 

[Antoine.]

Re: Gay Bars Ban Bachelorette Parties

Gay people so totally don't do that.

They do, However, after many years of going to gay clubs, I've developed some kind of immunity against it.

plus, shirtless slutty guys >>>> slutty girls

 

[Antoine.]

Uh, yeah, some straight folks are traumatized when gay folks act this way too. I guess some people are just overly sensitive. Seriously though, we're in an economic slump. All this trauma will revive the psych industry.

yea but we don't go to THEIR clubs and act that way. If they're traumatized by gay people in a gay club, you know they are in the wrong territory.

 

[Rex]

Yeah, that always happens. Please, in that recent bisexual cluster-fuck thread, I wasn't the only one saying I won't date bi guys but it turned into the "Pile on Jasun" thread. I'm not complaining at all. I'm kinda flattered that my opinion are so important that they trump the existence of other people.. I mean... I didn't even start this thread and it's already about me.

What?! Hold on....

You are one of the biggest instigators and drama queens on this site. Even if there are a few who agree with you in these sorts of arguments you are always the loudest of the bunch and post more than anyone about these things and it's not that your opinions are so important. It's that you usually tend to make really general and insulting statements intentionally.

You've also said before that you enjoy the negative attention; I believe your words "I like being an asshole" or something of that nature, so don't you dare try to play this off as you being an innocent victim.

Which isn't really what they're doing.

the sign doesn't say "no women." It says "no bachelorette parties."

Isn't not a group of people who are banned.. just the activity.

Oh yeah, that would be the misleading thread title you made the first time this topic took place and we all remember how well that went, which just furthers my above post. You love drama.

 

[Rex]

You know Sultan, he wasn't NEARLY the loudest in the most recent clusterfuck of a bi thread(at least in the beginning) - i believe it only took two sentences from him for all of the bi commune on this site to go up in arms, and it was well proceeded by paragraphs from other people who wouldn't date bi guys. I have a very vivid memory in that regard.

I guess they just remember the previous bi haters thread that got locked because he was loudest in the one.

And as for your second shot at Jasun, were you even AROUND for that thread?

Yes.

 

[Rex]

I didn't bring up the bi hater thread.

 

[davy]

I didn't bring up the bi hater thread.

I sure wish you or someone else would.

It sounds like a wonderful clusterfuck to read, but I haven't been able to find that damned thread.

 

[Corny]

Guys please don't drag issues from one thread to another. It's one thing to mention some background about a poster or so that puts things in perspective, but no need to start re-doing the very same here which made the other thread a fail.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

That thread honestly, is a pretty good example of the pile-on. By the end, whatsername was just trying to come up with silly slags that had nothing to do with the original post.

When they can't argue someone on point, they opt for the "you're stupid" or "you're just bitter" or "you're just jealous" thing and then try character assassination.

It didn't work, and they took it to the "look at the pictures of me that I took off someone's Big Muscle Profile and pretend they're me" forum to whine about how mean I am.... I thought I was being pretty nice in that thread.




You know.. for me.

 

[Apollo]

btw, the other thread isn't actually closed.

and to add to the thread. It is the owners choice. If he doesn't want some loud, rude, offensive women in their flaunting their ability to get married, then let him.

 

[Ram]

Thank God I didn't participate in this train wreck.

 

[Corny]

Here's where it's really a bit tricky though, there are some gay strip clubs/bars that also market themselves to women. I'm not gay, and I couldn't tell ya where the gay "territories" are. So, if I see an ad for a club in my magazine, or in a beauty shop, or whatever, how am I supposed to know that I'm gonna piss some gay men off if I have a hen party there? It's an awkward situation.

No .. in that case it's the owner's decision. If his guests don't wish to see girls - they need another club, or he needs to listen to his customers.

I doubt the women realize that the celebration of their impending marriage is hurting anyone or pissing anyone off (yeah, and what if they're lesbians who can't get legally married either?). But if they're there, and you're there, and you can't ignore them, why not briefly chat them up and throw in a remark about marriage equality. You're there anyway and they're obviously distracting you, so there's nothing to loose. It has the potential to make a big difference.

Not quite the same situation, but let me tell you all a little story about a group who tried an all-welcoming party:

Around here there was a party organized by some good hearted left-wing activist. Their agenda is "fuck gender, against heteronormativity and genderfication". So they started this party, early at the evening their usually was a gig by some smaller and sometimes even some bigger bands. Sometimes there was also some speaker who talked about a certain topic .. sexuality in different religions and countries, gay rights or just culture. Late a DJ came and the party started. The entrance fee was ridiculous (1.5 EUR), the beer cheap (1.70 EUR, 0.5l), and the music good and alternative. It was a very refreshing party, no Madonna, no technostuff - which lead to one of the most pleasant audiences that I have seen at "gay" parties. Everything there was done by volunteers, they made no profit at all. It was just to bring their message across, have some fun and meet nice people. Heck if you wanted to you could go to the bar and tell the bar guy "hey one of you wants a pause? i'll cover for you the next two hours" and they would gladly accept, you served beer for two hours, and then could continue to rock on the dancefloor. Sounds almost too good to be true?
Apparently it was. The party grew slowly, and then always faster. More guests from all over the area, many people happily brought their straight friends and nobody had a problem with anything. It is still not clear how it all suddenly went wrong, but at some point more and more straight people appeared .. probably the straight friends told their other straight friends who told their friends .. we don't know how it happened, but eventually some straight people who have problems with gay people appeared at this party. A lesbian couple got some quite sexist comments, and they were outraged. At that time I still thought that it's either probably just some idiot or maybe it was meant different and they are just overreacting. But this didn't stay the only incident. One night a feminine guy was made fun of, somebody "eewed" kissing men, and when someone threatened another guy with "I'll beat you up when you are out here, faggot" it was the first time ever the police visited the party. The organizers were devastated. They had reached so much, created something good - they didn't want to see it destroyed by the very same forces they are fighting against. They skipped a party, made it a discussion forum - everybody agreed that giving up is an option. The mood was not really the same for the next weeks - so I was told, at that time I couldn't make it to the party for 3 months. And when after that time I came there with a bunch of friends once again (and yes, including a straight girl ; )) we were quite irritated that at the entrance we were handed a leaflet educating us about the fact that this is a "queer organized" party. Quite confusing .. but sadly it seems the organizers thought it was necessary .. but their try in "warning" people did not help. Only a month later someone was threatened - again, and other guests still reported offensive comments and behavior from the straight guests. They kinda took over the party, and there was not much that the organizers could do except kicking the people out. But of they refused to go, so the police was more often a guest at the party than not. And about a year after the first police visit many of the organizers had given up. Today the party is no more.

 

[Ram]

1.5 EUR = $4.5 here. That's not bad.

Damn, Corn, same thing happened at my "favorite" bar. First it was for queers, then some bad straights entered, 2 months of not getting along, then they took over and now they took down the gay sign.

 

[Corny]

^ it's very cheap for german gay parties. the MINIMUM entrance fee to the madonna+gogo dancers style party is 7 EUR, the by the guys who like that crap "good" called ones charge up to 15 EUR ..(most straight parties that I attend are between 5-10 EUR)

 

[Ram]

^ it's very cheap for german gay parties. the MINIMUM entrance fee to the madonna+gogo dancers style party is 7 EUR, the by the guys who like that crap "good" called ones charge up to 15 EUR ..(most straight parties that I attend are between 5-10 EUR)

7 EUR = $21

15 EUR = $45

There's a catch: is the beer free after you pay the entrance fee?

Heck, with that kind of prices, I found a great way to keep straight people out... and the rest of the population.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

I agree with the proposal that gay bars should boycott all bachelorette parties until we have gay marriage!

 

[Red Storm]

I don't take " WHAT A WASTE" a sa compliment. at all.

Also, may i reciprocate when one of them grabs my ass? i want to grab her boob or pussy next time. fair deal ?

Because I am gay does not mean you can come and grab whatever you want. This happened twice and i have let it go. NExt time I won't.

 

[Ares]

I don't take " WHAT A WASTE" a sa compliment. at all.

I agree.

As if being gay is the only thing holding me back from touching your ugly coslopus.

I'm on the fence about the banning of all bachelorette coslopus though. Maybe a warning that if the party gets overly obnoxious they will be asked to leave.