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Gay couple asked to reverse shirt at Dollywood

Words which are used to be malicious shouldn't have a greater value then other words used for the same purpose. Let us not split hairs. Would it matter which caliber bullet killed a person? They would be equally dead.
Oh come on now. When you read that the t-shirt had "marriage is so gay", did you really feel that hurt? The words on that t-shirt were obviously not meant to be malicious. Can we let ourselves use just an ounce of common sense here? Dollywood didn't have them hide it because it was malicious, they had them hide it because they didn't want it to cause some kind disruption sparked by different beliefs among their patrons.
 
Hey, I'm so gay. You're so gay (most of you). If any of you are married, your marriage is so gay. Quit twisting yourselves in knots trying to be PC.

And yes, Dolly is a big gay rights supporter. So she needs to step up on this one. If I have a t-shirt with a harmless slogan on it, it's not my problem if somebody else gets offended. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't ban a t-shirt that said Michelle Bachmann for President, which I would find deeply offensive...
 
I see the irony... and still don't like it.

I'm equally offended when I see/hear African American's call each other the "N" word.

I find it hypocritical to bash the word(s) when 'THEY' use it, but it's ok for 'US' to use it???

I saw it as negative when straight people use it, and I saw it as negative when the Lesbians were using it (in that context).

IMO- it was in poor taste.
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I find it a bit offensive
 
If a black person had been at the park wearing a shirt that said something witty using the 'N word', I'm sure they would have been asked to cover it up as well. If you want to reclaim a word- there is a time and place. In my opinion, a theme park is neither the time nor place. And forgive my ignorance but haven't we already reclaimed "gay"?
It is a delicate balancing act to be prepared to push boundaries in order that our society can expand its potential and inclusiveness, facilitating the individuals that make up that society to fulfill their potential to a greater degree, but I feel we also need to be a little more thick-skinned sometimes and not be too easily offended. Years ago a woman started working in my department and in the staff-room began to tell a joke, then stopped and asked if I minded that she tell a 'gay joke.' I asked her if she minded if I tell jokes about her 'type.' She chose not to continue her joke. When I was a kid, my best friend described her mother as a bitch (regarding something in particular). I foolishly agreed, only to be reminded that it's okay for her to say her mother's a bitch, but not for anyone else to do so. I can tell a gay joke (not that I ever would!), but wouldn't think to make up a joke about non-queer people, and I would think a black person can speak to the experience of being black on his or her own terms, too!

And yes, we reclaimed 'gay,' but then that was 'counter-claimed' with the arrival of the expression used by heterocentrists; "That's so gay," meaning 'That's so disagreeable.' We need to reclaim. :D Fuck 'em - it's about us; we should have the right to use the expression positively, regardless of location - although even I would draw the line at a formal occasion. And are we really going to suggest that a Country and Western story theme park (with all the content of songs in that genre) is too pure and innocent for slogans of this nature?
 
i think it's all an over reaction. The park employee probably was given a list of things that make a shirt offensive. Perhaps "gay" is one of those things. This employee probably had little time to make the decision and was trying to get people into the park. I'm sure at this point they probably wish they made a different decision. Was it that critical for this woman to show off this shirt at Dollywood? I doubt it. But now they have a reason to sue. Congratulations!
 
Is it important that the wearer be queer? Isn't the message what the park claims to be worried about - that marriage can be gay? While I agree that context is important, I also think that in this case, it's fairly obvious! I didn't read anything about the employee being concerned people may be offended at the idea of a perceived straight person advocating this message...
Apparently you don't understand what you read. My response was to the opinion that it should be ok because the wearer of the shirt was a lesbian. If that sentiment is true it then forces the observer to make a judgement on the wearer's sexuality to decide if the message is appropriate or offensive, not whether someone who sees such a message will be offended by it. In other words it puts the cart before the horse. The park attendants job is to block any material which can be offensive to the viewer, not the wearer, so yes he acted appropriately. End of story.


So "the Gay community" is over-reacting? You don't think that may be an exaggeration?;)
No it isn't an exaggeration. They're all in a fuss over a simple offensive phrase.

Think about this: What would be the reaction if it were a straight person wearing a shirt that said "Marriage is so straight"? They would be applauding the park for its actions.
 
Oh come on now. When you read that the t-shirt had "marriage is so gay", did you really feel that hurt? The words on that t-shirt were obviously not meant to be malicious. Can we let ourselves use just an ounce of common sense here? Dollywood didn't have them hide it because it was malicious, they had them hide it because they didn't want it to cause some kind disruption sparked by different beliefs among their patrons.

Did that law get passed in Tennessee where people can be arrested and even incarcerated for posting, or making public, speech that somebody might find offensive?

Maybe Dollywood had to "censor" the shirt because not doing so could open then up to a complaint, and perhaps an arrest for not using due diligence to curb offensive speech or something like that...

This is almost as bad as the guy I just heard about in Arizona who got sentenced to something like 310 years in prison for just LOOKING AT a few pictures of kiddke porn...not even downloading them.
 
This complaint won't go anywhere. Dolly Parton herself probably signed off on the park's rule. As nice as she seems, she's got a bunch of conservative people working for her and visiting her park. Dollywood is right in the middle of red state territory.

As someone who lives fairly close to Dollywood and visits once or twice a year, I can tell you that it's a very gay-friendly place, especially in its employment practices. Half the gay people I know around here (and there are a lot of gay people in this area) have worked at Dollywood at some point, whether it was a summer job or something more long-term. They put on several song-and-dance shows in full costume every day, for pete's sake! Most of the theater gays in this area work at Dollywood during the summers, and then migrate south to Disney World when they're ready to move on. :D

I don't even know how I feel about this story, but I do think that there's a lot of overreaction. I'm guessing that the probably-very-young, probably-minimum-wage employee had to make a snap decision on a moment's notice about whether the T-shirt could be objectionable, and then made that decision. Whether it was right or wrong, I don't know. I do know from experience, however, that there's no dastardly conservative agenda that the park as a whole is enforcing.

Also, Dollywood is neither owned nor operated by Dolly Parton, and she certainly doesn't set the rules.
 
Well... what would YOU compare it to?

He's already answered your question if you'd be bothered to read it.

I've always loved the "Marriage Is So Gay" shirts and have wanted one for myself.

I never imagined that members of the LGBT community would be offended by such a thing given the positive political message it makes. It's not comparable to saying something is "gay" to mean "bad." Marriage Equality is a GOOD thing.

We shouldn't be at war with the term "gay," we just need to be watching how it's used. Who are we, the Tennessee public school districts?

Some of you are funny. Honestly.

I don't want to play "opression Olympics" here but comparing "gay" to the N-word is full of fail. It'd be different if the shirt said "Marriage is for f*****ts" then MAYBE you can play that angle.

They put on several song-and-dance shows in full costume every day, for pete's sake!

:rotflmao: Yeah! so just shut up about all the hate on dollywood already! :confused:
 
Also, Dollywood is neither owned nor operated by Dolly Parton, and she certainly doesn't set the rules.
All the numerous sources I am looking at shows that she is still co-owner of The Dollywood Company. I couldn't find any numbers about what percentage she owns. The park is operated by Herschend Family Entertainment, from which The Dollywood Company spinned off.
 
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the shirt is offensive and demeaning..[-X

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In your opinion, love...

Personally, I'm not offended by it in the least. Would I wear it ? No, but that's not the point. Message Tee's are silly, but as long as they're not obscene, I don't see the offense here. I mean, I love to suck cock, but I'm not going to display those words across my chest in a public area, (or anywhere else, for that matter) and if I did, I would expect to be chastised and reprimanded by "the powers that be" on private property. No one, children especially, needs to see that.

As far as demeaning.... Demeaning to whom ? Gay folks ? The public in general ? I guess I fail to see your point.
 
In your opinion, love...

Personally, I'm not offended by it in the least. Would I wear it ? No, but that's not the point. Message Tee's are silly, but as long as they're not obscene, I don't see the offense here. I mean, I love to suck cock, but I'm not going to display those words across my chest in a public area, (or anywhere else, for that matter) and if I did, I would expect to be chastised and reprimanded by "the powers that be" on private property. No one, children especially, needs to see that.

As far as demeaning.... Demeaning to whom ? Gay folks ? The public in general ? I guess I fail to see your point.

Ah, but the point is there are people who would be. It isn't about whether just the LGBT community would be offended (no matter how much the LGBT community thinks it should be), it is about whether anyone could find it offensive. The answer to that is yes. Therefore she was asked to hide the offensive message so no one would get offended. The park was well within its rights and was just looking out for everybody. She turned her shirt inside out and nobody got offended. At least no one but her.

Why should anybody be upset that she didn't get to offend others with the message?
 
Are you fucking kidding me? I somehow missed this comment, but it's beyond lame. Praising gay marriage is "indecent" now? WOW.

it's not indecent but it is certainly instigating. I'll take a prime RL example. When I was a bartender, I refused to serve someone because they wore a t-shirt that said "Kiss me, I'm shitfaced". My fellow bartenders backed up me up and the guy was later ejected from the bar because he picked a word fight with us. Welcome to private property where we set the rules!

You seem to forget that Dollywood is not in the "heartland of liberal America". Mind you, Tennessee has a constitutional ban on "gay" in public schools to prove how out of touch you are with other states. I may not agree with their policies but I am at least aware of the "environment" there.
 
Ah, but the point is there are people who would be. It isn't about whether just the LGBT community would be offended (no matter how much the LGBT community thinks it should be), it is about whether anyone could find it offensive. The answer to that is yes. Therefore she was asked to hide the offensive message so no one would get offended. The park was well within its rights and was just looking out for everybody. She turned her shirt inside out and nobody got offended. At least no one but her.

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I find you to be offensive, sir. Please turn yourself inside out immediately so as to avoid furthering your offensiveness. :badgrin:
 
Dolly has issued an apology to the woman who was told she couldn't come into Dollywood with a "Marriage is So Gay" t-shirt.

"I am truly sorry for the hurt or embarrassment regarding the gay and lesbian t-shirt incident at Dollywood's Splash Country recently. Everyone knows of my personal support of the gay and lesbian community. Dollywood is a family park and all families are welcome."

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While I think this is a just a big overreaction by the park and the women, the shirt's reference to homosexuality is wrong simply because it's, simply, a reference to sexuality in a family-oriented place, period. However, I was just at Dollywood for July 4th, and saw plenty of other general sex-related phrases on t-shirts, and there haven't been any controversies about them, so this is definitely discrimination, which is bad.
 
the shirt's reference to homosexuality is wrong simply because it's simply a reference to sexuality in a family-oriented place, period..
Well, we wouldn't want that, would we ?

After all, sex is bad and dirty, and if a child read the word "gay" on a T-Shirt it could scar them for life.

What nonsense.
 
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