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Gay relationship but craving pussy

Sexuality is complicated. I thought i was exclusively gay until i tried pussy for the first time, then when i did, it was great. Something changed in me and maybe that means i am bisexual, but I get to use whatever word i want to describe my sexuality cause it is mine and not yours.

To your point about how pussy is less tight and warm than ass, you are right that it isn't as tight, but pussy is a million times warmer than ass. Sticking your cock inside one is like putting it into the center of the sun but warm and gooey and just tight enough, like it was meant for pleasuring cock.
 
Sexuality is complicated. I thought i was exclusively gay until i tried pussy for the first time, then when i did, it was great. Something changed in me and maybe that means i am bisexual, but I get to use whatever word i want to describe my sexuality cause it is mine and not yours.

To your point about how pussy is less tight and warm than ass, you are right that it isn't as tight, but pussy is a million times warmer than ass. Sticking your cock inside one is like putting it into the center of the sun but warm and gooey and just tight enough, like it was meant for pleasuring cock.

But your description of your sexuality still has to be accurate, no? I mean, if I have brown hair and I go around saying it's blue (because it's mine and I can say what ever I want), does that make it true? Of course not. People just look at me funny. Is that what you want?
 
Sexuality isn't complicated, people are. And we simply use sex to work out our emotional and psychological issues, many for which sex (especially with a partner) is not the best remedy, case in point: bicuriosity. You are either a) bisexual and have yet to embrace it or b) a victim of porn overconsumption or the opinions of men who love women( for those who identify as gay), whose experience will almost always bias them toward believing that pussy is the pinnacle of pleasure, despite there being no objective basis for this idea. Yes, vagina feels good, but it isn't the best pleasure to receive. In fact some of the toys provide more pleasure if speaking from a strictly sensation pov. I'd recommend the op try out some of the toys if you want something that simulates the pussy fucking experience except with more sensation and without the hassle of having unprotected sex with some chic, possibly getting her pregnant, ruining your relationship, and all for what, to "feel like a real man" or attain some pleasure you ASSUME you are missing.
 
I have this big fantasy about two gay lovers who try a threesome with a girl and love that. Each time they need pussy after that they invite a girl in their bed.

I also think sometimes of a guy who ask his boyfriend to have sex with a girl in front of him but doesn't participate. His boyfriend discovers he loves that so the guy decides to let his boyfriend have sex with girls whenever he wants.

The idea of a gay guy discovering he loves pussy turns me on so much. I can't explain why...it's like that.

Goddamn, I have the SAME hot fantasies of gay men dealing their true heterosexuality!
 
I always love it when my fellow gay-bisexuals who discover their latent minor heterosexuality say that they're "slowly converting" to the pussy. On the other hand, you guys, it seems that, despite [strike]our[/strike] some of your guy's growing fantasies of gays fucking pussy, it still remains that much of the focus of the fantasy is still on the guy.

We're really not "going straight" now, are we? :D

Here's what's happening. It's really quite simple. Our human sexual brain craves novelty. For those of us who have a minor sexual attraction to the opposite sex at all, at some time in our life, we would eventually want to act on these new, frightening but exciting fantasies: because our brains had never had it before, the desire for it is excruciating; even unbearable. (Remembered my first time! :D) May even cause you to think that you're growing out of your homosexuality. And then, once the hetero fantasies are no longer fresh, guess what's always been there? Your predominant homosexual fantasies! They've never left you. Merely kept itself dormant as you explore this new but temporary fantasy that took over for some time.

I've heard so many gay-bisexuals say that they've met or spoke with some guys "who are going through the same thing" as them. It's quite prevalent indeed, but, it's really not as special as some would like to say it is. At this point in history, very little is publicly acknowledged about this phenomenon. Perhaps it's this mere limited availability of open network for it that makes it all the more special; even if it's really not. Just saying.


Now, having said that,

why is the outstraight forums, the "yestergay" online community which I belong to as one of their staunch supporters, constantly being taken off and then brought back on over the years? Just last month, I visited the board for barely a week after having not been able to do so for a year, and guess what? The admin once again took it down just a few days afterwards. I hope part of it's not because they're trying to get rid of me. (Even if they wouldn't admit it out loud :p) OP HairyCub91 was consistently looking for some hot erotic stories to fulfill his yestergay needs; that board would have been the best place to find it. Anyone who still has contact with Miguel700 or BigDave/Reborn, please PM me and let me know the updates as to what's happening with thie place. Thanks.
 
I always love it when my fellow gay-bisexuals who discover their latent minor heterosexuality say that they're "slowly converting" to the pussy. On the other hand, you guys, it seems that, despite [strike]our[/strike] some of your guy's growing fantasies of gays fucking pussy, it still remains that much of the focus of the fantasy is still on the guy.

We're really not "going straight" now, are we? :D

Here's what's happening. It's really quite simple. Our human sexual brain craves novelty. For those of us who have a minor sexual attraction to the opposite sex at all, at some time in our life, we would eventually want to act on these new, frightening but exciting fantasies: because our brains had never had it before, the desire for it is excruciating; even unbearable. (Remembered my first time! :D) May even cause you to think that you're growing out of your homosexuality. And then, once the hetero fantasies are no longer fresh, guess what's always been there? Your predominant homosexual fantasies! They've never left you. Merely kept itself dormant as you explore this new but temporary fantasy that took over for some time.

I've heard so many gay-bisexuals say that they've met or spoke with some guys "who are going through the same thing" as them. It's quite prevalent indeed, but, it's really not as special as some would like to say it is. At this point in history, very little is publicly acknowledged about this phenomenon. Perhaps it's this mere limited availability of open network for it that makes it all the more special; even if it's really not. Just saying.


Now, having said that,

why is the outstraight forums, the "yestergay" online community which I belong to as one of their staunch supporters, constantly being taken off and then brought back on over the years? Just last month, I visited the board for barely a week after having not been able to do so for a year, and guess what? The admin once again took it down just a few days afterwards. I hope part of it's not because they're trying to get rid of me. (Even if they wouldn't admit it out loud :p) OP HairyCub91 was consistently looking for some hot erotic stories to fulfill his yestergay needs; that board would have been the best place to find it. Anyone who still has contact with Miguel700 or BigDave/Reborn, please PM me and let me know the updates as to what's happening with thie place. Thanks.

I think the LibreCast hosting service itself has shutdown, taking the OutStraight backup with it which is a shame. I emailed Miguel700 a while ago letting him know it was on LibreCast and he didn't know about it being back up so he's probably not in the know about OutStraight. Such a shame. That site was so hot.
 
Hot about gay men coming out as heterosexuals? Or hot as in fantasizing about gay men fucking pussy?
 
I always love it when my fellow gay-bisexuals who discover their latent minor heterosexuality say that they're "slowly converting" to the pussy. On the other hand, you guys, it seems that, despite [strike]our[/strike] some of your guy's growing fantasies of gays fucking pussy, it still remains that much of the focus of the fantasy is still on the guy.

We're really not "going straight" now, are we? :D

Here's what's happening. It's really quite simple. Our human sexual brain craves novelty. For those of us who have a minor sexual attraction to the opposite sex at all, at some time in our life, we would eventually want to act on these new, frightening but exciting fantasies: because our brains had never had it before, the desire for it is excruciating; even unbearable. (Remembered my first time! :D) May even cause you to think that you're growing out of your homosexuality. And then, once the hetero fantasies are no longer fresh, guess what's always been there? Your predominant homosexual fantasies! They've never left you. Merely kept itself dormant as you explore this new but temporary fantasy that took over for some time.

I've heard so many gay-bisexuals say that they've met or spoke with some guys "who are going through the same thing" as them. It's quite prevalent indeed, but, it's really not as special as some would like to say it is. At this point in history, very little is publicly acknowledged about this phenomenon. Perhaps it's this mere limited availability of open network for it that makes it all the more special; even if it's really not. Just saying.


Now, having said that,

why is the outstraight forums, the "yestergay" online community which I belong to as one of their staunch supporters, constantly being taken off and then brought back on over the years? Just last month, I visited the board for barely a week after having not been able to do so for a year, and guess what? The admin once again took it down just a few days afterwards. I hope part of it's not because they're trying to get rid of me. (Even if they wouldn't admit it out loud :p) OP HairyCub91 was consistently looking for some hot erotic stories to fulfill his yestergay needs; that board would have been the best place to find it. Anyone who still has contact with Miguel700 or BigDave/Reborn, please PM me and let me know the updates as to what's happening with thie place. Thanks.

But if your theory is for gay men, shouldn't it work for straight men too? Maybe a straight man who tries cock for a while? Is he still straight? If he eventually goes back to pussy, was he ever truly gay then?

That's why I'm such a big fan of sexual fluidity. Back and forth depending on how the situation or environment dictates. Of course that throws mud on the whole genetic theory.
 
But if your theory is for gay men, shouldn't it work for straight men too? Maybe a straight man who tries cock for a while? Is he still straight? If he eventually goes back to pussy, was he ever truly gay then?

That's why I'm such a big fan of sexual fluidity. Back and forth depending on how the situation or environment dictates. Of course that throws mud on the whole genetic theory.

Why would that have any negative impact on the theory that proposes that there is a genetic origin for sexuality? Some people are born gay, some others are heterosexual and yet, some others are bisexual and their preference might fluctuate one, or many times throughout their lives. I could also be that it will never fluctuate at all.

The reason why so many in the gay community feel threatened by the idea of some self-identified gay men discovering, or finally accepting that they are indeed bisexual, is because they fear that society will try to impose a false notion of potential heterosexuality on them. However, this isn't the case for the majority. The people in this thread are clearly bisexual, or are fetishizing a very particular type of bisexuality that isn't true for everyone - not even all bisexual people have the proverbial "fluidity" that is so often discussed. This is a relatively limited phenomenon, and maybe it would be more responsible to call it "cyclical" or "periodical" bisexuality in those cases in which desire changes completely over a relatively lengthy period of time. Moreover, I think that the pleasure expressed in the idea of deceiving, exploiting and manipulating others while secretly transitioning into "heterosexuality", could make some react rather negatively. While there is nothing abnormal about erotizing certain aspects of a person's sexuality, I find it curious that many of the people who have posted in this thread are excited by the idea of men lying to and emotionally abusing their partners.

That's why I would be interested in knowing the underlying phenomena that "trigger" these behaviours and fantasies, and what leads these people to still self-identify as "gay" and then "straight", when clearly they are neither thing: they are bisexual. How we choose to identify ourselves is irrelevant when our behaviours do not match the label we are choosing to use. Finally, just to clarify:

Alternating Bisexuals – one relationship at a time, the first might be exclusively straight, the next exclusively gay and vice versa. Alternating Bisexuals are usually monogamous.

Circumstantial Bisexuals – primarily heterosexual but bisexual because of circumstances, eg; Prison where there are no women/men available.

Concurrent relationship Bisexuals – have a primary relationship with one gender, but may have multiple casual relationships with partners of the other gender.

Conditional Bisexuals – will switch sexuality for personal gain, eg: Gay for Pay.

Emotional Bisexuals – have intimate emotional relationships with both genders but only have sex with one gender.

Integrated Bisexuals – have two or more concurrent primary relationships one with a man one with a woman

Exploratory Bisexuals – testing the water seeing if they like it.

Hedonistic Bisexuals -primarily straight or gay/lesbian but will switch purely for sexual pleasure.

Recreational Bisexuals – bi only when drunk or high. “Party Bisexual”

Isolated Bisexuals – currently straight or gay/lesbian – but has had one off sexual encounter in the past which qualifies them as bisexual.

Latent Bisexuals – has strong yet so far unsatisfied urges to go the other way.

Motivational Bisexuals – will go bi to satisfy a partner, e.g. straight women agreeing to MFF threesome.

Transitional Bisexuals – the only type of bisexuality the gay community understands, the one “going through a phrase”.

http://www.twodaymag.com/love/view/the-13-forms-of-bisexuality/

While I think that the above list is far too simplistic and, in some cases, inadequate (it reflects isolated behaviours rather than giving a full emotional and psychological explanation for some of these these types of bisexuality), it can explain what is seen in here - the idealization of Transitional, Recreational and Latent bisexuality as a reflection of cyclicality, or semi-permanent fluidity.

I don't know what other people think, but I would think that this explains it quite well. I also agree with Level 27, even though his support for the absolutely repugnant Outstraight and its rabid homophobes with their "gay people are not evolved/emotionally healthy/biologically functional enough to be heterosexual", is a bit questionable. Well, that was just my little contribution to this debate. I hope that I haven't offended anyone.
 
Andrusk, you summarized nicely my own feelings on the matter. I couldn't have said it any better. ^^

I say, I think it should be fine that we "yestergay" fetishizers fantsize what we do, so long as at the end of the day we acknowledge that it's nothing more than fantasy; and that, as you point out, not every gay man has (or is capable of having) such erotic thoughts. Unfortunately, some of my fellow yestergay's don't realize the hurt they're causing for those blue gay men who aren't capable of 'liking' women. I literally had a guy on the outstraight.net forum who had the stark nerve to mock (overly-outspoken) gay men by imposing a sort of "we're yestergay. Get over it, bitches!" speech, attempting to diliberate a frail type of hipocrisy in gay's for shoving the same speech down society's throat. Even if I've never personally been a fan of this in-your-face behaviour, there's a reason why gay men feel they have to make that speech: they're coming from an inequitable position of hurt (not butt-hurt) imposed on them by non other than the social influence of society. The yestergay in my reference, on the other hand, does not go through such socio-emotional torment for acknowledging his latent side of heterosexuality: his "position of hurt" is nothing more than suspicion and mere disappointment by the very community who is facing prejudice coming from people who he associates his sexual orientation with.

What more of a nerve does he have? He states that, despite gay men now "hating" on him, he is still "man" enough to "take their shit" and give them a good gesture....It's no wonder why gay men "hate" him. I really don't blame them; frankly, not even the obnoxious ones. (And, to think that I was giving him support as his fellow yestergay....)

 
As far as my support for outstraight, let me clarify that what I support and celebrate is their discovering a new part of their sexuality that they've not known before. I'm also a supporter because I myself am a gay man who has come to accept his latent minor heterosexuality: I've never been gay. I've always been gay-bisexual. (You can add that one to your personal dictionary of bisexuals. lol) On the other hand, like you, I don't support their ham-fisted behaviour, which has become pretty obnoxious. (In fact, I spoke out about it a few times, and the moderator there literally took the board off for a few days to delete some of my posts calling them out for it. Maybe that's why the board was taken off when I came back. I don't believe for a single second what HorniLad89's been told, that the moderator Miguel700 was unaware all along that the board went back up and came back down. Miguel responded to my PM there when I was on for the brief period of time!)
 
As far as my support for outstraight, let me clarify that what I support and celebrate is their discovering a new part of their sexuality that they've not known before. I'm also a supporter because I myself am a gay man who has come to accept his latent minor heterosexuality: I've never been gay. I've always been gay-bisexual. (You can add that one to your personal dictionary of bisexuals. lol) On the other hand, like you, I don't support their ham-fisted behaviour, which has become pretty obnoxious. (In fact, I spoke out about it a few times, and the moderator there literally took the board off for a few days to delete some of my posts calling them out for it. Maybe that's why the board was taken off when I came back. I don't believe for a single second what HorniLad89's been told, that the moderator Miguel700 was unaware all along that the board went back up and came back down. Miguel responded to my PM there when I was on for the brief period of time!)

Is Miguel the creator of OutStraight? All I know is I found his email address while I was searching though the archived version on LibreCast and asked him what was going on. He said he had no idea that it was back up. What I really want to know is; does anyone have an archived or backup of the site that could be moved to a new host? I'd hate to see it die completely.
 
HorniLad,
I feel the same way as you do. I miss the place myself; despite some of the ugly.
Rest assured, I've created a board a few years back, which archived many of the eroticas that was found on that board. I never finished it and simply put it to rest, but I still have it. It was created by a free invisionfree account. (I really don't get what the necessary difference between a free board and a host board is). If outstraight doesn't come back up, NewStraight Assylum will take over. ;)
 
You maybe right, but it's really not necessarily that simple, brock.

Aside acknowledging the different levels of bisexuality, why can't guys who are predominantly gay also have a say about their newly discovered side of heterosexuality?
 
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