Gay + Republican = "I'm not just some fag!"

[chance1]

dude

you make

no sense

which

explains

a

lot

i make no sense? u decide that YOU know how people YOU don't know are - and i make no sense?

YOU put people in a box - a gay man putting people in a box and judging them with ur "i suspect"

and i make no sense?

read mazda below - he puts it more succinctly than i - as he usually does

maybe then u will understand

maybe not

Marginalizing an entire group of people without meeting or knowing them seems to be the exact same bigotry that most rail against in the GOP. Pretty sick when you become what you hate. So cheers to ya.

I will remain exceedingly conservative in most of my positions such as trade, military strength and use, fiscal policy. I will continue to hold very socially "librul" (is that the cute new word girls?) .....socially liberal views. NO candidate embodies that stance. However many of the seats picked up that make the congress blue are from strong red areas whose constituents are disenchanted with the scandalous republican party. So to keep those seats in 2 years they had better move pretty damn quick to the middle.

I was very heartened to see Obama shift from his immediate end to the iraq war position to a more realistic view of listening to his advisors and slowly retracting that war while saying he would push harder into Afghanistan. An immediate end would mean so much loss of life. So despite using the extreme left wing of the party to garner the chance that he has now capitolized on, I doubt he will rule that way. It showed he would be a stronger leader at the top than he was being protrayed. The true test of will is when he does authorize the military to prosecute the enemy in the mountains and the American death toll starts rising will he stand or shrink? Time will tell.

On a seperate note could rational now please return to JUB? The foaming at the mouth stuff is really quite idiotic. Like listening to heavy metal cuz your a tough guy or listening to britney cuz your flame is high. The extreme foaming at the mouth rants are tiring to read. So since I refuse to hide behind an ignore button then please reign in your insanity. Thank you and may Prada bless. I approved this message.

what he said

 

[Sbaraglia]

i make no sense? u decide that YOU know how people YOU don't know are - and i make no sense?

YOU put people in a box - a gay man putting people in a box and judging them with ur "i suspect"

and i make no sense?

read mazda below - he puts it more succinctly than i - as he usually does

maybe then u will understand

maybe not



what he said

yes, that makes more sense - i think sometimes you get too caught in the cute "free verse" format you like and sense comes in second fiddle - but also, if i understood you correctly (and i'm not at all sure i did) you seemed to be saying that "i suspect" indicates that the rest is my opinion and thus has no place here - ?? but then, what are you doing if not stating your opinion? sometimes it seems more that you are fluttering in with a poem and a jab and then you flutter off again, and it can be a bit exasperating and tiresome. but i don't think that will change, so i suppose it should either ignore or Ignore...

 

[Kulindahr]

to the OP: how bout saving the wacked psychology for Sigmund Freud. Thanks.
Anyone that thinks sexual orientation defines what politics one believes in needs to get an education.
Alot of gay and bi people are in the closet specifically to avoid this kind of gay peer pressure and stereotyping. Do we all have to listen to Britney Spears and pray to Prada as well?

EXACTLY what I was talking about! Yup - gays all listen to Britney Spears and pray to Prada, but YOU aren't like that! Thanks for proving my point.

If that "proved your point", then you don't have a point.

And the best comment on that is:

You decry people who apparently vote Republica because of "stereotypes", but your post is precisely a symptom of the same kind of collectivist thinking (in a philosophical sense - I DON'T mean communism) - that the characteristics of a man is derived from a group to which they choose to belong.

 

[Kulindahr]

That's more or less what I meant, whereby "changing the party" means lessening the influence of social conservatives. Funny, evangelicals used to be liberals, from the fire-and-brimstone abolitionist preachers to William Jennings Bryan. I know that was a long time ago, but it can be odd how things change.

Back then liberals, were different, too; they hadn't become regulate-to-death, nanny state devotees to whom human life in principle is valuable but in practice dare not be defended. And evangelicals hadn't yet fallen to the Fundamentalist virus, which has excised portions of their brains, afflicted them with rampant legalism, and strangled them with a self-righteousness that has virtually asphyxiated love.

 

[Kulindahr]

It's difficult in a two party system for someone to affiliate completely with one party. I don't like either party that much. I am very pro-free trade and I love the Reagan "starve the beast" philosophy because I think the government has too much waste. That said, I have voted straight-ticket Democrat since I could vote. Mostly because of the bigotry.

Yeah, I have the same opinions. I just vote Democrat nationally, locally, I'm mostly voting for Republicans.

And this election I voted for people from four different parties.

I think that's the way it ought to be: somehow, we need to tweak the system so people who don't particularly like either of the Big Two can be represented?

 

[Centexfarmer]

It's difficult in a two party system for someone to affiliate completely with one party. I don't like either party that much. I am very pro-free trade and I love the Reagan "starve the beast" philosophy because I think the government has too much waste. That said, I have voted straight-ticket Democrat since I could vote. Mostly because of the bigotry.

And the hatred, and the animosity, and the fear, etc..

As my Avatar states, I'm a Yellow Dog Democrat. Run a yellow dog in a race as a Democrat, and he has my vote.

I can't, in good conscious, vote for any candidate that runs on a ticket with a party that has as a part of it's platform provisions which wish to relegate me to second class status as an American.

I'll take my chances with a party that I at least, as a Gay Man, have a voice in.

But I'm not the least bit deluded in thinking that, as a Gay Man, that the Democratic Party is my friend.

I've witnessed to many occassions when the Democratic Party had the chance to do the right thing, but tossed us under the bus for political expediency.

New England is ahead of the curve: in the upcoming Congress, there will no none -- zero, nada -- Republican Congressman from the six New England states, not a single one. And of the twelve US Senators from New England, only three are Republicans, with the other nine caucusing with Democrats.

The GOP has become a regional party, largely of old, poor and uneducated people. Its last redoubts lie in parts of the south and mid-west.

Yep, and they, and those within our own community are going to have to be the ones to help sort that shit out.

I have a marginal degree of respect for "Gay Republicans," because I respect the political positions that they've arrived at on various economic, and domestic issues.

It's a shame though, that even within the Texas GOP, they don't have a voice within a party who's majority of the platform that they support outside of social issues.

Where I take issue is when they throw the rest of us under the bus to attempt to prove that their voice is relevant on every issue within their party except when it comes to our equality.

It's a Catch 22, and God Love them for their efforts.

However, there's right, and then there's "Christian Right."

The "Christian Right" (which is neither right, nor Christian) is the dominate faction within the GOP and unless the party of Lincoln gets back to their roots, they'll continue to be the narrower of the two parties. IMHO.

 

[Luka]

I'm a registered republican but iv'e been meaning to switch cause I just was a republican to go along with the family, lol

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm a registered republican but iv'e been meaning to switch cause I just was a republican to go along with the family, lol

Switch to Libertarian -- they're the only party which really believes in gay rights. The Republicans want to abuse us, the Democrats just want to use us.

Though the Greens ought to be ecstatic over going for gay rights -- doesn't homosexuality sort of cut down on population growth?