Gay twin brothers having sex: Right or wrong?

[Kulindahr]

I would like to see Siamese twins doing each other.

That's twisted, perverted, and sick.


Admirable qualities, in some circles.

 

[Willie Boy]

For those who are bringing up the issue of taboo here is something to think about: It used to be taboo (and in many cases still is) for two males to have sex with each other. The main reason behind the incest taboo is because of the inbreeding aspect as potential cause (from long term occurrences) of physical deformities in the offspring. With gay males there is no potential for offspring.

Are we that hypocritical as a gay community that we say its OK for two males to have sex, but not if they are related? Can someone explain the reasoning behind this?

 

[Kulindahr]

For those who are bringing up the issue of taboo here is something to think about: It used to be taboo (and in many cases still is) for two males to have sex with each other. The main reason behind the incest taboo is because of the inbreeding aspect as potential cause (from long term occurrences) of physical deformities in the offspring. With gay males there is no potential for offspring.

Are we that hypocritical as a gay community that we say its OK for two males to have sex, but not if they are related? Can someone explain the reasoning behind this?

 

[haberfuckingdashery]

For those who are bringing up the issue of taboo here is something to think about: It used to be taboo (and in many cases still is) for two males to have sex with each other. The main reason behind the incest taboo is because of the inbreeding aspect as potential cause (from long term occurrences) of physical deformities in the offspring. With gay males there is no potential for offspring.

Are we that hypocritical as a gay community that we say its OK for two males to have sex, but not if they are related? Can someone explain the reasoning behind this?

with your example of popular acceptance by erosion, you can apply that to bestiality. i'm not saying we should but we could. Also your point about the inability to procreate.

can you get a sheep pregnant? no! therefore it's ok for you to bang a sheep. are you and the sheep hurting anyone? no! so you can bang a sheep. what you and your sheep do is between you and the sheep.

 

[haberfuckingdashery]

i don't know of any group or society that looks favorably on or encourages sexual relations between brothers / sisters / mothers / fathers. and if there are any such groups then they're surely minority groups.

Homosexuals are fighting for equal mainstream rights?

 

[Kulindahr]

can you get a sheep pregnant? no! therefore it's ok for you to bang a sheep. are you and the sheep hurting anyone? no! so you can bang a sheep. what you and your sheep do is between you and the sheep.

Sheep can't give informed consent.

Or if they can, they don't have the ability to communicate it.

 

[haberfuckingdashery]

Sheep can't give informed consent.

Or if they can, they don't have the ability to communicate it.

Yes i know this, unless of course Dr. Doolittle is around.

So we do use animals for our needs, like food, leather garments, agriculture etc. So if we use animals for these basic of human needs then why cant we use them for the basic human need of sexual gratification?

it's a better option for the sheep, rather than slaughter for food or apparel.

 

[fetaby]

Yes i know this, unless of course Dr. Doolittle is around.

So we do use animals for our needs, like food, leather garments, agriculture etc. So if we use animals for these basic of human needs then why cant we use them for the basic human need of sexual gratification?

it's a better option for the sheep, rather than slaughter for food or apparel.

NOW that is some free thinking... Bravo.

We are all just making it up as we go along, the only trespass is to assume that what we hold true for ourselves should also apply to other free thinking, free willed adults.

Tell your sheep I said hello.

 

[Willie Boy]

with your example of popular acceptance by erosion, you can apply that to bestiality. i'm not saying we should but we could. Also your point about the inability to procreate.

can you get a sheep pregnant? no! therefore it's ok for you to bang a sheep. are you and the sheep hurting anyone? no! so you can bang a sheep. what you and your sheep do is between you and the sheep.

Now you are comparing apples with oranges. You have latched on to one tiny splinter in the 10ft plank and have taken it completely out of context. That context is informed consent. Animals do not have the ability to reason and therefore can NOT give informed consent. I know this is a subject you will not be able to comprehend (too many years playing with the animals has caused you to lose your mind - but hey, you proved the use it or lose it adage! ) so I'm not going to waste my time explaining it.

Besides animals are not humans. We were talking about human sexual intercourse. Your inability to reason has gotten you lost in the ether where you have clung to inter-species intercourse as if it were a life jacket. But hey, if you really enjoy it so much, go ahead and put a gerbil up your ass for all I care. Just mind the hungry snakes. And don't expect me to applaud your choices.

Have a nice life.

 

[haberfuckingdashery]

too many years playing with the animals has caused you to lose your mind -

as you approve of two brothers and i don't, there's more probability of you and animals rather than me and animals.

and there are some people of the world who engage in sexual acts with animals, so why is that wrong? why can't they be left alone to do their thing without the judgment of their fellow man? it's their business!

why must this debate remain in the realm of humans? are you not the care free accepting spirit you were 5 posts ago?

 

[haberfuckingdashery]

Tell your sheep I said hello.

if i did that then your flock of sheep might get jealous

 

[Willie Boy]

As I said, I'm not going to waste my time explaining this to someone who can't understand even the simplest bits of reasoning. The fact that you ask questions looking for answers when the answers are in the post you quoted is more than proof of that. Then again your idiotic claim that because a person accepts sexual acts between brothers he will more likely accept sexual acts between humans and animals than a person who appears fixated on it really says quite a bit about your ability (or lack there of) to think.

 

[fetaby]

if i did that then your flock of sheep might get jealous

I've got enough love for them all...

Serious...

Why do farmers fuck their sheep next to cliffs? They push back harder...

 

[haberfuckingdashery]

As I said, I'm not going to waste my time explaining this to someone who can't understand even the simplest bits of reasoning. The fact that you ask questions looking for answers when the answers are in the post you quoted is more than proof of that. Then again your idiotic claim that because a person accepts sexual acts between brothers he will more likely accept sexual acts between humans and animals than a person who appears fixated on it really says quite a bit about your ability (or lack there of) to think.

perhaps i do lack the ability to think? because you say so! and because i can't make heads or tails of your post. it seems like a big mish mash to me. so i will leave it here at good bye

 

[Kulindahr]

I think it's wrong. Yes, it's disgusting, despicable, gross, lewd, sick, degerant and any other adjective that describes depraved....but beyond that sex between brothers (or anyone related) twists, complicates and convoluted their familial dynamic. The relationship becomes something more than just brotherly, and the sibling love becomes blurred and mixed up into something else. Then as soon as all this tapers off, can they go back to the way it was before? Nope. The relationship is forever changed. And what happens if this somehow gets out and becomes an all over family drama. You've got a huge mess. The bond between two brothers should be celibate and pellucid. Sex doesn't need to be mixed into that.

When you say "should", you imply that you can tell others what to do.

The only basis for such a claim is that you have some sort of ownership over them.

Did you get their consent to that?

 

[Kulindahr]

That's being so dramatic. No I'm not implying that I can tell someone else what to do. "Should" represents my absolute take on the matter. "Should" doesn't imply that you can tell people what to do, it's merely a strong suggestion. "Cannot" or "can't" would be the world that is used to dictate to others. Never once did I say anyone HAD to listen to me, abide by my feelings on the matter, or that I have some sort of "ownership" over them. I doubt anyone who is into fucking their brother is going to feel forced to stop because IRuleU stated that he doesn't approve of incest (and listed reasons why) on an Internet posting forum. I'm simply stating my position. People can ultimately do what they're going to do.

But if someone is going to bring this topic up in a general discussion (asking for opinions) then expect strong dissenting viewpoints, because it is a taboo and a controvercial subject. I'm not going to water down mine just to accomodate/placate some people who have a flagrant "live and let live" attitude on the matter, or can't stand to hear opposition.

It wasn't dramatic, it was objective.

Just wanted to know how you meant it, really.

Piggy asked what I thought, and I spoke up!

Piggy has that effect on people.

 

[NW007]

The comments on this thread don't line up with the poll results. I find it quite interesting to see the strong feelings expressed on here especiallly as it pertains to morality. Here we are expressing strong negative reactions toward fellow gays having sex with each other(yes, they are brother's); but we don't like it when society in general criticizes us for being gay and having sex together.

I just sense a double standard in that thinking I guess.

 

[Kulindahr]

The comments on this thread don't line up with the poll results. I find it quite interesting to see the strong feelings expressed on here especiallly as it pertains to morality. Here we are expressing strong negative reactions toward fellow gays having sex with each other(yes, they are brother's); but we don't like it when society in general criticizes us for being gay and having sex together.

I just sense a double standard in that thinking I guess.

 

[abruma]

One poster early on said, "It's like a train wreck, you just can't look away." Agreed. I also agree with the two posters who discussed the calculus of harm as a determinant of morality. For me, it rings true.

In any case, I doubt the time-space continuum is about crack and split asunder.

Now, where's that sheep again?

 

[bulge]

Between same sex partners the incest taboo is an absurdity. There cann't be any inbreeding.