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Gay & Witchcraft

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maybe you should research more....... i would suggest 'simple wicca' it is a great starter book.



actully wiccans follow many different gods and goddesses. i myself follow Rhiannon and Pwyll, as my main Lord and Lady.



And I choose to follow Diana. However, don't lecture me on what I need to research on my own family hertiage. I know what I am doing, and I know what I am talking about.
 
I believe I'm a blood witch, I don't have facts, or lineages to back it up, but things just seem to happen. I can't be bothered with the books and the spells and all of that, the last time I tried spells I had a bad result.

Things take time Cindy_Suicide...and if you believe it then go for it. Sometimes things just happen within a family line. It takes years to build abilites for Witches....others it only takes a shorter amount of time. I wish you luck.

In perfect love, and perfect trust.
 
Hey Beardedwoof. I answered you're first question in the other post, but I assume you haven't been back to read it.

I don't remember the difference between paganism, and neo-paganism, nor do I really care, because I already have my belief system set up. The title it goes under doesn't really matter to me.

When it comes to spells, I've learned that different people believe different things when it comes to how they work. Some believe it's an ability granted by the gods, and goddesses to their followers. Others believe they slightly bend the laws/will of the universe to suit their aims. I personally believe that casting a spell is a ritual which releases you're personal energy into the world to do as you willed it to in the spell. The invocation of gods, goddesses, the elements, and other entities, lends strength to the spell.

I was raised a Catholic, and when I had discovered my sexuality, and realized that Catholic's didn't look on our kind to kindly, I started looking for a new set of beliefs. Wicca is what I came upon. I was drawn to it for several reasons. 1) It's an unorganized religion, which means that I don't have to fit into a mold to be accepted. 2) It has an extreme amount of respect for the natural world, which most people have forgotten about. 3) All groups of people are loved, because their all part of the natural cycle of life. Yeah women are generally held in higher regard, but I personally think life would be better in a Matriarchal society anyway. I still believe in the Christian/Catholic god, but I have no respect for him anymore. I think it's a shame what Jesus's teachings have become. Mark Twain once said, "If Jesus was alive today, the one thing I'm sure he wouldn't be is a Christian." Fiona Horne, a prominent Australian witch, also said, "I'd go so far as to say that if he (Jesus) was around today, with his values of tolerance, acceptance, respect for Nature, and fellow people, he'd be a Witch!" I completely agree with both of them.

Fairies? I haven't really given it much thought, but I suppose their existence is possible in some form. I still believe in angels, so why not fairies as well? Thats not to say that you MUST believe in fairies to be a Witch. As I said, it's an unorganized religion. There are very few constants.
 
I am curious if anyone here is a fellow witch? I am a witch by blood, not religon. My mom's side (mom is a christian though) has 600 years of witchcraft in it...good witchcraft, and I was curious if I am the only loser here? lol.


anyways hit me up. peace out.


You're Fam Trad?

Not a "loser" by any stretch on that count, unless you disavow your heritage

I've known a few Fam-Trad high priestesses (and by the time I met them, knew enough of the Craft not to be overly-inquisitive about their practices)
 
Generically, Wicca/Witchcraft is a spiritual Path of seeking harmony with Nature, promoting a relationship of mutual benefit.

Most observe eight Sabbats (Holy Days), which fall on the Equinoxes, Solstices, and their midpoints. We put behind the previous season, and prepare for tasks of the season to come. There's a time to clear the fields, and one to plant, and one to nurture, and one to harvest, and one to cut chaff, etc.

In modern times, these agrarian activities are metaphors that correlate into our non-agrarian lifestyles, and Wiccan Sabbats ritualize their psychological spinning into momentum so that changes manifest in the practitioners' outside worlds.

Again, the relationship with Nature is a mutual give and take.

"Farmers Almanac" gardeners realize there's either bounty or bust in knowing how lunar cycles affect the growth of tomatoes, or whether it's healthy to prune a rose bush.

Among some Wiccans/witches, especially Family Traditions, there is absolute belief that the Sun will not rise if they don't perform the due ceremonies to coax it from the dark horizon.

I respect that.

It's a plausible concept in my world, where conventional physics doesn't explain everything, and psychic phenomenon is real.

After all, weather patterns have been pretty fucked up over the past century.

Who's to say that humankind's failing of substantive tribute to Mother Earth isn't making global life more difficult?

Anyway, there are also lesser Sabbats, called "Esbats," performed on the Full and/or Dark Moon, whose themes also correspond to times of year.

Some covens and solitary practitioners observe all 8 Sabbats but none of the Esbats, others do Esbats but no Sabbats, some have only 4 Sabbats, and some hold circle 21 times a year to connect with Earth, Sun , and Moon.

That's Wikipedia and little more

As for the low magic of spell-craft, that's within the potential of every individual.

It's the knowing of why, when, where, and how to cast a spell that one's being Wiccan holds an ethical leash.

Seeing karma in action, and it's butterfly effects, can scare the shit out of someone. Evolving beyond selfish concern for karma, and merely doing what's right for the sake of being of righteous character respecting Nature's perfect ways, is where true power waits.

(Admittedly, I'm still at the "fear of karma" stage of my spiritual development, because there's a lot I'm tempted to do, from physically keying cars to magically inflicting spinal meningitis. Because magic practitioners are held to higher, more-expedient standards of karmic justice, I check myself, and do time out to speak with trees.)


Oi --- Sorry to cut this short, but I got "called" to work on a "thing."


Any Wiccans in Atlanta interested in a Beltaine project?
 
For example, I'm in the process of losing weight, so I have used magic to give that extra little "oomph" to get things going. Basically to keep me motivated. But that's just one example.

Is it not possible then that the use of magic has no tangible effect, instead that your belief in it acts as psychological reinforcement? I'm not trying to disprove or deny that casting spells influences the universe in some way, because really I don't know, but when we talk about slight influence doesn't it open up room for a great deal of ambiguity where incidents and evidence contradicting the spellcasting process can be easily dismissed/ignored until something happens to 'prove' that it has worked?

That said, I am interested in your belief systems as I have none of my own, and would like to learn more about your experiences, if anyone feels like sharing or has suggestions as to where I could learn more about spells, etc.
 
Is it not possible then that the use of magic has no tangible effect, instead that your belief in it acts as psychological reinforcement? I'm not trying to disprove or deny that casting spells influences the universe in some way, because really I don't know, but when we talk about slight influence doesn't it open up room for a great deal of ambiguity where incidents and evidence contradicting the spellcasting process can be easily dismissed/ignored until something happens to 'prove' that it has worked?

That said, I am interested in your belief systems as I have none of my own, and would like to learn more about your experiences, if anyone feels like sharing or has suggestions as to where I could learn more about spells, etc.
Oh, that certainly is a possibility. I mean, I've taken anough medical anthropology courses to know that te placebo effect is a powerful thing. But at the same time, I've done enough magic to know that it works(at least, to me).
 
I'm witchy from both sides of my family....one of my maternal ancestors...Alice Young was the first witch hung in English North America around 1647...her daughter and grand daughter were also accused and punished..but not executed..my grandmother did spells and held seances....and also healings...I'm more into ceremonial magick, now ...but I also celebrate the cross quarter Sabbats...so I guess I am sort of Wiccan too.
 
I come from a VERY long line of boring people who went to church because they had nothing better to do on Sunday.

I'm not sure what to call myself other than a newly minted Wiccan and Green Man.
 
That's why I chose Asatru, because vitki sounds so much cooler than witch.

Well, that's not really my reason, but it was a cool bonus.
 
While I guess I could call myself a dabbler in witchcraft, I am far more into herbalism, aromatherapy, botany, and meditation. My mother's side of the family extends back to gypsies and Wicca, and I do remember some of my ancestors being hanged as witches.

Although, I have some deeper, more personal roots in the human psyche. My grandmother who just recently passed away was always extremely sensative to other people's feelings and emotions, and I always assumed she was an empath. I remember one time when I was much younger, she used to smoke, and made her cigarette lighter flutter across the coffee table, no joke. When she died this past Wednsday, I remember waking in the middle of the night before after having terrible dreams and knowing that something bad was going to happen.

It sort of passed by my mother, but sometimes my dreams are almost prophetic, and sometimes I can sort of predict things will happen before they do, though I have no control over it and it's always random. I feel that I predicted my grandmother's death, the 9/11 attacks and similiar world events, like the death of the late pope. It's always something big and profound, but almost always deals with death or the pain of alot of people.:(

Still, not a day goes by where I don't randomly think of an idea/word/thought, and it comes up in something I am reading, in a conversation nearby, or in some small inconsequential way around me.

I don't even know why I am even typing all this, it makes me uncomfortable to talk about it openly, and usually something bad happens soon after I begin thinking on it too much. I'll probably end up deleting this in a matter of minutes.
 
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Well, then. If you only see big and important things that make sense to you, then you're either: the most gifted, talented, and powerful seer since Nostradamous..........

or you aren't. (I'll let you make the decison about what I'm implying from there).

For most people with pre-cog, it's a lot less Hollywood and way more complex. We rarely (in fact, never) get a pre-cog that makes sense. It often is simply a random collection of images and feelings (sometimes smells as well). We are then left with the largely impossible task of making sense of that. Which in most cases, we don't. 85% of the things I see are never fully understood.

It's like being spoken to in another languauge. You rarely ever have a natrual ability to interpret it. We get progressively better at understanding the images over time and with a lot of trial/error.

Although, I'm likely being a skeptical bitch. So here's my advice: Don't ignore the feelings/sensations. It's dangerous to do so. You can get overwhelmed by the images you are feeling. In fact, it can lead to severe mental illness. Or it can just make life suck ass. Ethier one blows, so make a concentrated effort to understand it.

It's unfortently that your grandmother was unable to give you advice/suggestions about how to work with the gift, because it's always best to learn from someone who you connect with. Still, start looking for a teacher.

The sad thing is, there really aren't a lot of healthy/qualified teachers out there. I can't even think of a book that would truly help you. hmmm....although, you might want to learn about spiritual self defense. It's almost life threatening to not know that as a sensitive person.

Anyway, look into those feelings. Don't ignore.
 
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...., because it's always best to learn from someone who you connect with. Still, start looking for a teacher.

The sad thing is, there really aren't a lot of healthy/qualified teachers out there. I can't even think of a book that would truly help you. hmmm....although, you might want to learn about spiritual self defense. It's almost life threatening to not know that as a sensitive person.

Anyway, look into those feelings. Don't ignore.

"spiritual self defense" --- excellent advice on that (Dion Fortune's a good author), as well as being keen to developing "street smarts," though most of us have to learn from errors of misplaced trust in some mentors.

Something profound just came to me (though I'm too tired to fully work it out), as counsel to beginners for maintaining self-determination over their own core of will. Maybe they can imprint their essence of being onto a special stone, or a stick, or piece of jewelry, or paper scribble, etc, then wrap it up hidden from others, and never share it or even its existence with any other person.

Then, as they recognize their personal evolution, re-imprint that object, or switch it for another, and put it back away to remain hidden. Give pause for reflection, etc.

Something like that could serve as a mental landmark to remind one of who one was before other perhaps-damaging influences came into one's life.

(Of course, don't we all want a time-travel machine to go back and at least tell our former selves not to fuck up at certain junctures.)
 
@Ladygrey
I don't really care what you were implying, and, frankly, if I heard that from somebody else i'd think it a load of BS, too. I just wanted to get it off my chest and maybe see if anyone else had the same thing. I guess they don't.

Not that this happens often, anyways; it's more like once in a blue moon, and it never occurs more than an hour to only a day before the actual event happens (not that I would try to warn or something, they'd just throw me in a padded room). Not to say that I don't have normal dreams about crap I don't understand, but the more profound things stick with me more. And I do mean PROFOUND, not everyday, normal, big events, I mean big things.

The last time this happened was last week when my grandmother passed away, and it had not happened for a long time since my last prediction.

From what I know, it's always right out there in plain sight, even though I don't remember what it was I dreamed. EX: say I dreamed of an apple falling out of a tree. Now, i'd wake up knowing that an apple would fall out of a tree, but I wouldn't remember anything of the dream itself. Sorry, that's the best way I can explain it.

Now i'm making myself mad.
 
Hey there !

I'm a witch (a REAL witch, I don't just light candles and worship pagan gods/goddesses) from my mother's family. My grandmother can see the future and so can I, but I can't control it though. It just randomly happens...My mother and sister can also see all things beyond human sight, such as ghosts, demons etc...My sister has actually seen a lot of ghosts and says they look very scary in their "true form".Or maybe they weren't ghosts and she saw something else !

I don't follow the Wiccan religion or anything, but I have powers of my own and can cast spells...my element is Wind. My most impressive feat do date is that I changed my eye color. PERMANENTLY. As of somewhere mid-2004 I have green eyes instead of dark brown that I used to have. I actually wanted blue, but they turned out green !Oh well, I guess there's only so much I can do to bend the laws of nature...I can't completely break 'em !!
 
I wanna share this with you :

Today I got the biggest scare I've had in a very very very VERY long time. I didn't manage to sleep after that. First a little introduction...I've had my fair share of demons and evil stuff. For some reason, wherever I go (I recently moved out of my parents' house) demons and evil always seem to be after me. I never go too long without my house being invaded, demons visiting me in nightmares, and generally being under attack from evil. So far, I've never been really scared because (I'm not saying this to brag but...) I'm powerful, way more than all the witches I know at least. I don't just draw symbols or light candles, I can actually make things happen, like I changed my eye color (see above post), or I've hit people (that treated me bad obviously) with spells so powerful they suffered short-term memory loss and acted like retarted for a day or two.

So I've never been particularly scared of demons or being possessed and stuff...I just feel the evil presence and then either ignore it until it leaves (which it usually does), or if it persists I expel it by force. I've never felt really threatened or that a particular demon/spirit was beyond my powers and that I couldn't handle it. I always easily overpower them in a full-on confrontation. Until today...or should I say tonight.

It was around 4 am or so...I suddenly jolted out of my bed screaming (NO idea what I was dreaming ) and in extreme panic (that's the first thing I remember). I felt as if I was suffocating and couldn't breathe...my head was spinning...and I was screaming at the top of my voice, my throat burnt with pain actually. I jumped out of bed, and tried to stand on my really shaky legs and started taking deep breaths to calm down...Slowly I could breathe again, and my head stopped spinning, but the panick didn't stop. My heart was beating like a hundred times per second, and I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. In order to feel better, I ran up to my window (which is a big window, you can walk out onto my balcony though it), pulled back the curtains and suddenly stopped. Suddenly the panick I was feeling got even more intense and I seriously thought I was gonna have a heart attack or a stroke. I felt an overhwelmingly powerful and absolutely EVIL presence right on the other side of the window (the lids were closed though so I couldn't see who or what was on the other side...probably luckily for me). I stopped the last moment before opening the windows and jumped back. I just felt that whatever this was outside my window, it was malevolent to the core and way, WAY too powerful for me to confront. I jumped back into my bed and pulled the sheets and pillow over my head ! I was so scared I didn't even dare to peek out from under the covers...

Until then, I had only felt the presence, i hadn't yet heard or seen it. Then, I suddenly heard a noise that I can only describe as probably the scariest sound I've ever heard. it was like....i don't even know how to describe it...it was like the cry of an evil animal or beast (that's the first 'description that came to my mind), mixed with the howling of the wind, and with a little dose of nails on chalkboard . Even that doesn't really hit it, but it was the closest thing I can think of . It sounded like it was coming from far away, and had an "echo" to it...but the sound didn't fade away, it vibrated and got increasingly stronger, as if whatever was making that creepy sound was coming closer. At some point, it sounded exactly on the other side of my window, and I felt that sense of evil even more (if that was possible !). Then I had a vision (it just hit me with a flash,as usually) and saw what was outside there...it was a female...BEING...and I could only faintly make out the details because the vision was very blurry (which is unusual cos my vision are usually crystal-clear...they're actually CLEARER than my physical sight...maybe she was "blocking" my vision somehow ?)

Anyway, that "thing" looked remotely like a woman, it had long hair that looked to be white or light grey or maybe even silver...it was all quick and blurry so I can't really say. I THINK she was wearing some kind of robe but it looked very tattered and torn and shredded...the robe was also light grey or white...the whole "thing" was one color. Same color skin, hair, clothes, everything. All kinda light grey-ish with a really faint green undertone. She looked incredibly scary and evil, her facial features were almost distorted cos she grinned so twistedly, and her eyes were weird. I don't remember for sure, but I THINK they were all white. I remember for sure though that they were weird and scary. Then there were wings. I don't remember WHOSE wings cos it was too blurry and fast...either she had wings...or she was riding something that had wings. They were big wings (so they could have been her own...they were big enough to carry her, I'd say !) like a bats or dragon's...not like a bird's, at least.

To top it off, she was holding something that looked like a javelin or big staff...she was just hovering above my balcony, levitating without flapping her huge wings, or without whatever had those wings flapping them for that matter.

She stayed there for a few minutes, screaming hysterically and like a lunatic, and then slowly flew upwards and disappeared. ANd then my vision was over and I was back under the covers again.

This is the first time I've felt this way....I was scared out of my wits and felt I was absolutely no match for her, that she'd skin me alive I tried to do anything. I was actually scared she'd come in through the window and kill me . I couldn't sleep afterwards and my heart kept beating almost out of my chest for a good couple of hours later.

Has anyone else seen HER ? I don't even know who or what she was...but she was 100% demonic . I've never felt so powerless...and I've never, EVER been so panicked that I just hid under my covers. Anybody have any idea who she might've been ?
 
Luminox, for your safety and that of others, go see a psychiatrist.

The visions and voices you describe hearing make it sound like you are suffering from the first stages of paranoid schizophrenia.

This is not a flame it is honest, concerned advice.
 
I'm not insane if that's what you mean ! I know what I saw . And I SAW IT. Or HER. Whatever.

I just said what I saw/heard. Maybe it was a dream within a dream...who knows ? I don't know what it was, but it felt pretty real.
 
...maybe I dreamt that I woke up when in fact I was still dreaming...I dunno. At least, I'm trying to convince myself of that, cos now at daylight this seems seriously bizzarre.
 
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