Gay yet holier than thou.

[spencer]

Do you know anyone who is gay that is religious that you just scratch your head and wonder why they think they're holier than thou?

I consider myself religious (spiritual, what have you) yet tolerant (makes sense since I'm gay) but I just have a hard time with my one friend that treats people (me esp) like I don't get it. Like I've got it all wrong.

Sorry I'm venting. It's the 2nd gay religious (studied religion) person I've met that just gets under my skin.

Anyone else?

 

[CtBoyWonder]

Do you know anyone who is gay that is religious that you just scratch your head and wonder why they think they're holier than thou?

I consider myself religious (spiritual, what have you) yet tolerant (makes sense since I'm gay) but I just have a hard time with my one friend that treats people (me esp) like I don't get it. Like I've got it all wrong.

Sorry I'm venting. It's the 2nd gay religious (studied religion) person I've met that just gets under my skin.

Anyone else?

I have a friend like that. I am Catholic and do attend church just about every
week. A "good Catholic boy" probably not, but I try. And I choose to attend
church. Also my polictical views are pretty much in the center, maybe I swing
to the right a little. But I dissagree a lot with the far left wing machine. My
friend, who happens to be a Minister in the United Church of Christ. Always
has to put me down for my religious and political views. Been friends with him
for more then a decade. And some people wonder why we never became a "we"

 

[Kulindahr]

In person, no -- but I encounter them on line. In person I get more frustrated with gays who claim to be Christian or Buddhist or such but show no evidence they have a clue about any of the teachings.

 

[BearBoi]

I've met a few online, but none in person.

I don't think it is religion that makes people assholes, it is the people. If it weren’t for religion they could take just about any personal belief and twist it into a source for arguments and justifying bad behaviour. Religion is just their flavour of choice.

 

[Kulindahr]

I don't think it is religion that makes people assholes, it is the people. If it weren’t for religion they could take just about any personal belief and twist it into a source for arguments and justifying bad behaviour. Religion is just their flavour of choice.

Yep -- any ideology will do. Religion is just attractive because it lets people think they're off the hook by having a superior authority to appeal to.

 

[kiorewas]

because most religious people are hypocrites and the biggest ones that you'll find,It's ok for them but not anyone else

 

[Kulindahr]

because most religious people are hypocrites and the biggest ones that you'll find,It's ok for them but not anyone else

Sounds like Congress.

 

[miatajim]

Raised RC. But not stick in any sense(90% of my family just did it cause, everyone else had done it). I'd say my generation and going forward is 99% over it. Do have one friend that is a priest(RC). His thing is "well I'm doing good for other people, so it works out" ????? WTF I don't get that logic, buy seems to work for him.

 

[conrad]

I keep busy coming back to this thread trying to figure out what the OP had in mind.

Religion, for the most part, is imparted to an individual by the family, church, and community of which he is a part. But it is foolish to think that my religious outlook is a carbon copy of that of my parents. I certainly observed the subtle differences in their outlook from that of my grandparents.

One of the best thoughts laid on my by the pastor of my church was that it is really no virtue to claim to believe that which you have not made your own. That to me was liberation. My parents line was: "That is something you have to know (decide) for yourself."

One can hardly boast about one's sexuality since that is hardly a achievement; however, I do think that it is quite helpful to bring insights from one's religious background and from one's own experience into the way in which one deals with the questions that arise on one's journey into the fullness of one's sexuality.

Do some find this easier to do that others? Of course, but the person to be cautious about, IMHO, is the person who is absolutely sure about his decisions. One owes it to oneself and others to cultivate a degree of humility. As a person of faith I want to be a good steward of my sexuality. And, my faith and the treasures of that faith in history and sacred writings have always kept my mind busy.

It is enough that others can observe one's life and make their own decisions as to whether one provides a worthy model. Each of us knows our own weaknesses and our failures. I do believe that as we forgive the faults we see in others so will our own faults also be forgiven by others. And, we can even learn to forgive ourselves as we resolve to strive to make amends.

 

[bankside]

Do you know anyone who is gay that is religious that you just scratch your head and wonder why they think they're holier than thou?

I consider myself religious (spiritual, what have you) yet tolerant (makes sense since I'm gay) but I just have a hard time with my one friend that treats people (me esp) like I don't get it. Like I've got it all wrong.

Sorry I'm venting. It's the 2nd gay religious (studied religion) person I've met that just gets under my skin.

Anyone else?

I don't think we're all right. I think a lot of people are out to lunch about a lot of things.

It goes without saying I don't stick up for ideas I think are wrong. And tolerance doesn't mean as much to me as curiosity. I'm always curious when I meet people who have very different ideas about things. Curious to know whether there is any common ground, or anything I've missed in my ideas, or where either of us might be mistaken.

To me, when I think someone doesn't get it, that is the start of a conversation, not the end of it.