Gays' Obsession With Straight Men

[USEDCAR]

I get attracted to straight guys time to time not like i used too. But where i live lacks gay guys and the few we have is a turn off or they are already in a relationship. i know im going to get flamed for this but straight guys are so manly and masculine. and straight guys are so nice also its nice approaching a straight guy joke around have a good time then a gay guy who acts like you kill there mother.

I don't understand the gay guys who suck off straight guys and get nothing in return. I read tons and tons of stores about a gay guy letting a straight guy take advantage of them

and i think the gay for pay is fake bait bus etc all that has to be fake.

 

[AlinCanada]

Ive had straight guys talk about boring.....They just don't know what the heck too do.

I think it is the compulsion that I find sickening. I know a few posters that are constantly falling in love with straight guys and asking for help on what too do. They compulsively seek these situations so they do not have to every progress themselves. They are stunting their own growth and maturity as well as re-enforcing the self concept that they have no worth as a potential partner or a role in a relationship.

 

[tcrawford18]

Because...some straight guys are just freakin hot??

Oh, and because of the whole, "Eve gave in to temptation and ate the apple" thing. We want to be that apple to straight boys and see if they will be tempted to take a bite out of us.

 

[tcrawford18]

That's cuz you don't love yo self.

Lol, oh. Wow. That stung. Let me cry myself to sleep now.

Luckily I don't have to love myself, because other guys, straight ones included, love me plenty. You can go back to being bitter now.

Peace

 

[fetaby]

And now I will speak.

You begin this thread with, sorry I had to vent.

Why? It seems your contention for this subject is real. But can you not appreciate the irony that while you may hold a contrary opinion of the issue. To speak on it with such fervor relates an obsession of your own. One that is centered around straight men. Welcome to the frying pan. YOu are not alone. Or are you?

 

[fetaby]

This is just not true, feta. You are distorting the situation.

By refocusing it on the OP instead of the straight men?

Individual culpability and intent...

When something is vented, it exhausts itself to a dribble... This doens't seem to be the case, the intentions are still alive and kicking, I asked why?

If this is something you wish to not discuss here, you know where the pm button is. You know I'll be happy to discuss it with you behind the curtains...

So until you can prove it isn't true.....

 

[looseliam]

I look at it no differently than a straight male pursuing a female who has no interest in him.

 

[fetaby]

No, when something is vented, it is simply vented. The feelings don't go away just because you unleash them.

What you are describing is not a vent. It's a broken record. Your central heat/air doesn't run full stream constantly does it? There isn't something coming out of the "vent" all the time is there? IF so, I would loathe your electric bill.

If they don't go away, what's the point of showing them out?

Say what you say, and move on. That's manly, and sexy. Just sayin.
Why give in to the bitchassness of bitching? Why hate?

 

[slnattak]

The straight male fascination is as follows:

It's not anything to do with sex appeal really, it's straight men have a tendency to talk to me like I'm a human being- other gay men seem really catty (the fem type, and 'dickhead asshole' for the macho type) and instantly put me down as some type of defense mechanism. That type of asshole-ishness isn't a turn on, straight men are just better behaved and they treat me better, they kinda make me feel like a prince. Even though straight men's attention to us isn't romantic, it feels like it is cause they're actually talking to me like a person. If more gay men talked to me, not 'down' to me- then I'd enjoy them. On average, this just isn't the case.

I was proud of one of my gay friends (we're sorta friends now) when he actually had the balls to call me, in real life- and apologized to me for acting like an ass. Now a straight man would have driven to my house and told me face to face like a man, but it was a START and I was proud of him.

It's NOTHING TO DO WITH SEXUAL ATTRACTION, it has to do with feelings of LOVE and ROMANCE and SUBTLE sexual longing. It simply feels like straight men are easier to marry, whereas gay men seem to rely solely on sex and aggression. Of course I wish reality wasn't like this, but it is, you know- it's like they need a lesson in both manners and self-esteem training.

If we saw gay men get over their me me me attitude, their narcissism, their defensiveness, their asshole-ishness hiding a vulnerable heart, then we might be getting somewhere. But it's just layers upon layers of insecurity, and really- I don't know what's it gonna take. Do you have to have Larry Kramer shit on your heads to act like a fucking human being? *shrug* And really I try not to idealize either gay men or straight men but on average, straight men are just healthier psychologically and better well-adjusted.

 

[slnattak]

I will repeat, it's not the MASCULINITY of straight men, it's a lot deeper than that. It's a sort of subtle natural masculinity that isn't questioned and doesn't have to be narcissisitcally overblown and such. So it has nothing to do with 'acting like a man' or their gender role, I'd prefer a straight male hairstylist over a gay male mechanic. And also it's that general romantic feeling of like, you can go on a date with that person or a picnic, that's what it feels like. I can feel this with other gay men as well but it just isn't as strong. Even if it's there, the straight male attraction is just more potent.

Again you can blame me, you can say it's my internalized homophobia all you want, but the point is, it's the gay community and gay men as a whole that are this way. I can't stand Dan Savage's bitchy attitude and him thinking he knows it all and actaully knows enough to give advice to other people, a lot of what he tells people is just flat-out wroooong to me, like he hasn't really lived life, like he just likes to write and rant and tell other people what to do. It's really bizarre. And really so many gay men are like this way, look I'm doing the same thing! Writing down ideals, of how I think life 'shoud go' when I should just be living my life. That is what is so appealing about straight men, just that defaultness....and unquestionable-ness.

Gay men simply need to show compassion, empathy and lose the 'attitude.' And work on slight homoeroticsm and not let sex completely define them. But again, when I type this post? Will I get 'You know Sam, you're right! I'll work on myself, thank you' or will I get more defensiveness? Think about it.

 

[slnattak]

"^Oh not you again..."

See case in point, you can't look in the mirror at good advice. You gotta go on the attack or on the defense. You can't lower your guard and say 'You know you're right' and laugh it off like a cool sexy straight boy would do. It's THIS right here exactly, the perfect example of why gay men like straight men better, and have more respect for them. Come on man, you are only proving my point for me.

Why are you getting so offended if it wasn't true? I can empathizie with the OP and relate to him, but I want him to get a deeper understanding of why straight men just are innately better, and what we can do about that, as gays- with the choices we make. You're right, it doesn't have to be this way. But it will only get better with a lot of time and effort. Are you willing to put in the time and effort?

A haughty exterior hides a hollow heart. I see right through you, dylan anti-gay.com. He had a lot of truth in what he said.

 

[slnattak]

As for wanting your ass kicked/wanting to be dominated that has nothing to do with straight or gay men, you like straight men better for more complicated and romantic reasons. I could write an entire book on this subject. But it's probably already been done.

Again so many people think this is about feminine vs. masculine when it isn't.

All sexual fantasies have power plays, so I mean when you think of the 'hot straight boy pwning you' it's not really cause he's straight, it's because you feel he is a nice person inside enough to trust him enough to lower yourself down to have a consensual submissive fantasy with him. I know you hate being technical cause it might destroy the mystery out of your fantasy, but that's exactly what you are doing there. And it's important you have that realization cause it's based on reality, in reality- gay men have too many psychological problems to both lust and love, yourself included.

I used to think it had something to do with exotic is erotic, but I've met PLENTY of gay men who were jocky and athletic and 'sporty' and outgoing, and extroverted so that really isn't it either.

 

[slnattak]

You go right ahead and believe in that. Lemme know when your feet get back on the ground.

See more with the jibes, you can't really open your mind up to the idea that I could be right, can you? *Sigh* Oh well I can't get angry, in time- you might see that we're onto something. If you really want to know what gay men see in straight men, I am telling all of you so you can act that way so you can actually get a mate- if that's what you want. A relationship isn't for everybody though, but I think that goes without saying.... *sigh*