getting into a relationship with a bisexual guy? yay or nay

[martin6]

nay. i just don't feel comfortable with the fact that i'm with someone that probably might not think he's cheating on me to get with someone of the opposite sex. i always had the feeling that there are some guys that use being bisexual as an excuse to be unfaithful hos. for some reason, i don't think there are many bisexual guys that can stay committed.

Yeah, you don't feel comfortable with a lot of stuff.



It's absolutely dumbfounding that we have to keep having this conversation every few months. And I'm astonished that some of you who are the most vocal about equality in this country can actually believe the moronic drivel that inspires these threads.

 

[refujiunderground]

I'm sorry, logic has all but left the building. What would a person, whose GAY, say if their boyfriend told them they were leaving them for another GUY? See, IN both Case, they were dumped! Being dumped== getting dumped. What does it matter if it was because of a female or male? It doesn't! which means there is something else beyond your argument, otherwise, It completely lacks cohesiveness.

this is my point. to some bisexuals, it actually does matter. they don't think that it's cheating if they are in two separate relationships because one is with a man and the other is with a woman and they happen to love them both equally. they actually want their partners to accept that type of shit which to me is straight up bullshit. like they'll be like "i'm in love with this girl right here. do you mind if i get into a relationship with her while i'm with you?" that to me is pushing it. i would straight up end a relationship like that if someone tried to pull some bullshit like that on me. i want someone who is committed to me solely. like i said, i have no problem with bisexuality at all or bisexuals. i just have a problem when someone chooses to use their bisexuality to do some bullshit and then using it to manipulate their partner to tolerate their nonsense.

 

[HunterM]

i'm just saying... i actually have a hard time believing that a bisexual person could be in a long term relationship and not act against their natural nature. they are going to be attracted to members of the same sex so that means that they can fall in love with a guy and a girl possibly at the same time. i just don't feel comfortable knowing that.

A straight man can be in a long term relationship with a woman.
A straight man can be in a long term relationship with a woman...and fall in love/lust/cheat with another woman or women.
A gay man can be in a long term relationship with a man.
A gay man can be in a long term relastionship with a man...and fall in love/lust/cheat with another man or men.

Temptations to cheat are all around us regardless if you're straight, gay or bi. A cheater disregards his/her exclusive commitment to his/her partner and acts on impulses regardless of sexual orientation. A cheater will cheat.

 

[Sigma-taylor-E]

this is my point. to some bisexuals, it actually does matter. they don't think that it's cheating if they are in two separate relationships because one is with a man and the other is with a woman and they happen to love them both equally. they actually want their partners to accept that type of shit which to me is straight up bullshit. like they'll be like "i'm in love with this girl right here. do you mind if i get into a relationship with her while i'm with you?" that to me is pushing it. i would straight up end a relationship like that if someone tried to pull some bullshit like that on me. i want someone who is committed to me solely. like i said, i have no problem with bisexuality at all or bisexuals. i just have a problem when someone chooses to use their bisexuality to do some bullshit and then using it to manipulate their partner to tolerate their nonsense.

Where are you getting these things! I can make allot of generalizations about a whole bunch of people, but it would be ill founded. Everything you've just said is ill founded.

 

[refujiunderground]

A straight man can be in a long term relationship with a woman.
A straight man can be in a long term relationship with a woman...and fall in love/lust/cheat with another woman or women.
A gay man can be in a long term relationship with a man.
A gay man can be in a long term relastionship with a man...and fall in love/lust/cheat with another man or men.

Temptations to cheat are all around us regardless if you're straight, gay or bi. A cheater disregards his/her exclusive commitment to his/her partner and acts on impulses regardless of sexual orientation. A cheater will cheat.

never saw it like that. makes sense.

that's the way it should be. i'm just saying because thinking about this topic reminded me of that mtv true life episode about these three bisexual people that were pretty much fucked up as all hell. they pretty much made the bisexual community look really bad because all of them were using their bisexuality as an excuse for them being cheating losers. they all expected the people that they were persuing relationships with to accept their bullshit too. i felt like smacking the shit out of all of them. another thing too. they all were young people with no damn form of sense. not saying all bisexuals are like that but i'm just saying, i would hate to get involved with someone like that. i might catch a domestic abuse case if i ever had to deal with someone like that.

 

[refujiunderground]

Where are you getting these things! I can make allot of generalizations about a whole bunch of people, but it would be ill founded. Everything you've just said is ill founded.

there are people that are like that that do exist. in no way am i saying that about all bisexuals. i'm only talk about a few.

 

[HunterM]

never saw it like that. makes sense.

that's the way it should be. i'm just saying because thinking about this topic reminded me of that mtv true life episode about these three bisexual people that were pretty much fucked up as all hell. they pretty much made the bisexual community look really bad because all of them were using their bisexuality as an excuse for them being cheating losers. they all expected the people that they were persuing relationships with to accept their bullshit too. i felt like smacking the shit out of all of them. another thing too. they all were young people with no damn form of sense. not saying all bisexuals are like that but i'm just saying, i would hate to get involved with someone like that. i might catch a domestic abuse case if i ever had to deal with someone like that.

TV producers like to get extreme personalities/characters to pull in ratings. Drama/ conflict sells.

 

[Soilwork]

My reasons for never dating a bi guy have nothing to do with cheating at all.

(although bi men always ignore that I say that and blather on and on about how it's all about cheating)

Bi men like women, and I can't give them that. Bi men will, by their own admission, go back and forth between wanting men and wanting women... When they're in a "want woman" phase, that's something I can't be.

Most of all, bi men will almost always take the path of least resistance and settle long term with women becuase that's what family, friends, society and employers want them to do. When they're ready to settle down and get married and have a "normal" life, that just isn't going to include you.

But the bi men will all, as they always have, ignore this pretty obvious reasoning and whine about how I'm "judging them" or saying they're more likely to cheat. Someone will dredge up some old post I made and say that some bi guy damaged me or something.

They will all lose their shit. But I know I'm right and so do they.

 

[refujiunderground]

My reasons for never dating a bi guy have nothing to do with cheating at all.

(although bi men always ignore that I say that and blather on and on about how it's all about cheating)

Bi men like women, and I can't give them that. Bi men will, by their own admission, go back and forth between wanting men and wanting women... When they're in a "want woman" phase, that's something I can't be.

Most of all, bi men will almost always take the path of least resistance and settle long term with women becuase that's what family, friends, society and employers want them to do. When they're ready to settle down and get married and have a "normal" life, that just isn't going to include you.

But the bi men will all, as they always have, ignore this pretty obvious reasoning and whine about how I'm "judging them" or saying they're more likely to cheat. Someone will dredge up some old post I made and say that some bi guy damaged me or something.

They will all lose their shit. But I know I'm right and so do they.

never thought about it like that. that is very true. it's rare to find a bisexual guy that settles down with a guy, getting married and goes about his life because that's what he wants. some bisexual men use that shit too much as a card that suits their interests when it best benefits them.

 

[Sigma-taylor-E]

My reasons for never dating a bi guy have nothing to do with cheating at all.

(although bi men always ignore that I say that and blather on and on about how it's all about cheating)

Bi men like women, and I can't give them that. Bi men will, by their own admission, go back and forth between wanting men and wanting women... When they're in a "want woman" phase, that's something I can't be.

Most of all, bi men will almost always take the path of least resistance and settle long term with women becuase that's what family, friends, society and employers want them to do. When they're ready to settle down and get married and have a "normal" life, that just isn't going to include you.

But the bi men will all, as they always have, ignore this pretty obvious reasoning and whine about how I'm "judging them" or saying they're more likely to cheat. Someone will dredge up some old post I made and say that some bi guy damaged me or something.

They will all lose their shit. But I know I'm right and so do they.

My god..it must be lonely up there eh?

 

[Sigma-taylor-E]

there are people that are like that that do exist. in no way am i saying that about all bisexuals. i'm only talk about a few.

Ok, then why not say, some? Instead you Use "Bisexual" which by default is ascribe to a whole segment of people; and say "some" when you're called out on it?

 

[Soilwork]

My god..it must be lonely up there eh?

Not really.

It's a pretty busy party, actually.

 

[yummylongsword]

My reasons for never dating a bi guy have nothing to do with cheating at all.

(although bi men always ignore that I say that and blather on and on about how it's all about cheating)

Bi men like women, and I can't give them that. Bi men will, by their own admission, go back and forth between wanting men and wanting women... When they're in a "want woman" phase, that's something I can't be.

Most of all, bi men will almost always take the path of least resistance and settle long term with women becuase that's what family, friends, society and employers want them to do. When they're ready to settle down and get married and have a "normal" life, that just isn't going to include you.

But the bi men will all, as they always have, ignore this pretty obvious reasoning and whine about how I'm "judging them" or saying they're more likely to cheat. Someone will dredge up some old post I made and say that some bi guy damaged me or something.

They will all lose their shit. But I know I'm right and so do they.

Okay, first of all, you can't claim to have intimate knowledge about the sexual preferences and phases of every bisexual guy on Earth. Just because you heard once that bi guys go through "phases" doesn't mean it's true for everybody. And even if it is, the same could be said for the preferences of anyone: today you're into buff guys, then you're into twinks, then you're into older men. It doesn't mean you stop loving your significant other.

Secondly, you can't claim to know what every bisexual man on the planet will do due to society's pressures. Hell, there are plenty of people who would choose to stick with a male partner just to go AGAINST what everyone wants them to do. It all depends on the person.

The only people that would dump their partner for such shallow reasons are not people you should be dating anyway. If you're concerned that bi guys you're interested in will up and leave you for a woman, maybe you should find some men that are good people, rather than going for the hot assholes.

 

[Soilwork]

Okay, first of all, you can't claim to have intimate knowledge about the sexual preferences and phases of every bisexual guy on Earth.*

Ok, and who said otherwise?

Just because you heard once that bi guys go through "phases" doesn't mean it's true for everybody.

Once?

That's been a theme in a lot of these threads here at JUB. I've been here for about 7 years or so and have seen it many times.

And even if it is, the same could be said for the preferences of anyone: today you're into buff guys, then you're into twinks, then you're into older men. It doesn't mean you stop loving your significant other.

I would submit that having different types wouldn't really be the same as being attracted to different sexes.

Secondly, you can't claim to know what every bisexual man on the planet will do due to society's pressures.*

Ok, and who said "every bisexual man on the planet?"

Hell, there are plenty of people who would choose to stick with a male partner just to go AGAINST what everyone wants them to do. It all depends on the person.

Great. Just what I want. A guy who's with me solely to prove a point. *Sexy.

If you're concerned that bi guys you're interested in will up and leave you for a woman, maybe you should find some men that are good people, rather than going for the hot assholes.

I will never be interested in a bi man. I've been with my husband for 20 years. Think I got that covered.

And if I wanted to get away from the hot assholes, I'd need a body transplant.

 

[Soilwork]

Hah. It's funny because it's true.

Again... Been with husband for 20 years. Clearly not incapable of a real relationship.

I just know not to play a game I probably can't win.

 

[Soilwork]

Uh, what does that have to do with anything? Some bi guy damaged you to the point that you have some stupid prejudice against all bi guys, not to the point that you can't have a relationship at all.

And here we go... Instead of debating the issue (I guess my reasoning is pretty sound), they attack me personally. Tell me I'm damaged, tell me I'm discriminating against "all" bi guys.

Meh. Nice to know things never change.*

 

[yummylongsword]

Ok, and who said "every bisexual man on the planet?"

By repeating "bi men will" and never specifying that you meant "some bi men will," you implicitly mean "all bi men will." That's how the English language works.

Also, you were answering the question "would you ever get into a relationship with a bi guy" with the answer "no." You're therefore implying that under no circumstance would you ever enter a relationship with a bi guy, because under no circumstance would a bi man act differently than the ways in which you described in your post.

But regardless of the technicalities, it's obvious that you believe all bi men will behave like this. If not, you would examine men on an individual basis and you would have no need to spell out your prejudices. If you really meant that "some" bi guys act like this, then what was your whole point? It seems to me that you were justifying your prejudiced decision (yes, prejudiced is a weighted word but you are technically prejudiced, no judgement) to not date any bi men with broad generalizations. If you WOULD date a bi guy under individual consideration, your answer should be "yes, I would date a bi guy."

I'm not judging you for being prejudiced, it's necessary to some extent in this world. I just want you to be aware of it.

 

[Soilwork]

By repeating "bi men will" and never specifying that you meant "some bi men will," you implicitly mean "all bi men will." That's how the English language works.

If you're concerned that bi guys you're interested in will up and leave you for a woman, maybe you should find some men that are good people, rather than going for the hot assholes.

Got it.

So then you think all bi men are "hot assholes."

I see.

 

[yummylongsword]

Got it.

So then you think all bi men are "hot assholes."

I see.

Okay, first of all, you just said:

And here we go... Instead of debating the issue (I guess my reasoning is pretty sound), they attack me personally.

So don't be a hypocrite.


Secondly, I did NOT say in any sense nor even imply that all bi men are assholes. I implied that all bi men you have been interested in were assholes, which led to your conclusions about bi men. That may or may not be true, I simply inferred.

 

[Soilwork]

Oh... So when I say something without implicitly saying that I'm talking about the men in my own experience... That means I'm taking about every on "on the planet."

But when you infer that all bi men are hot assholes... That may or may not be true,

But I'm the hypocrite.

I see.

Interesting.