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Girl accidentally shoots her shooting instructor

HoodedRat said:
The place was called 'Bullets and Burgers'???!!! WTF! Seriously? :confused:
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No, the place was called "Last Stop" and included a restaurant, bar and RV park. Last Stop offered a fun family program called "Bullets and Burgers" which I guess was a package deal including a meal with your firing range lesson.
 
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Ah ... okay, my mistake ... 'a fun family program called "Bullets and Burgers" ' is a totally different thing. :roll:
 
Their website is still up. I thought certainly it would be down.
 
This is what happens when douche bags are given unfettered access to firearms.
 
zoltanspawn said:
No, the place was called "Last Stop" and included a restaurant, bar and RV park. Last Stop offered a fun family program called "Bullets and Burgers" which I guess was a package deal including a meal with your firing range lesson.
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I wonder how popular this family package is after this incident. They might want to rethink this "fun family program".
 
MakeDigitalLove said:
No, just because it wasn't very smart to do doesn't mean the person deserves to die.
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Depends what you mean by deserve. No nine year old should be trained for an uzi. Adults have difficulty handling the recoil, it pulls an arm (and therefor your aim) upward and outwards. The instructor clearly wasn't fit to teach anyone, let alone a nine year old. In that vein, the instructor was endangering everyone he was around so his death was a mercy. I could say the same about the parents and darwinism, carting their child in for that training. Stupid sonsofbitches, just stupid. I sincerely hope they get charged for something and (hello child endangerment) that it teaches them some much needed common sense lessons.
 
luckynumbah7 said:
The instructor clearly wasn't fit to teach anyone, let alone a nine year old. In that vein, the instructor was endangering everyone he was around so his death was a mercy.
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But wouldn't it be the parents who decide upon the weapon? I can't imagine the instructor suggesting it.
 
gsdx said:
But wouldn't it be the parents who decide upon the weapon? I can't imagine the instructor suggesting it.
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A friend of mine on facebook knew him. He was in the Army and in her Navy Barracks. According to her and a friend of hers, he was a really nice guy.

As it comes to someone "deserving" to live or die, I don't think people who make bad judgments, stupid or unintelligent decisions should die because of those decisions. There are far worse people out there who have the intentions to harm or kill others. If there is anyone that "deserves" to die, it is them.
 
star-warrior said:
She'll be the toughest kid on the block, with one homicide under her belt for a couple of years at least.
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No homicide involved, if you mean the legal term. I just hope to God she's not in some right-wing Christianist family where she could get even more screwed up from their version of "counseling" after this.

Perseids said:
The vast majority of gun safety is taught by a father to his children and centered upon game hunting. It begins normally at ages lower than nine and with BB guns and .22 rifles as Kuli said.

The colossal stupidity of this killing is the spectacle it should be, as it is an extraordinary exception. The critics of gun culture are justified in condemning it, but it isn't typical of children as they are trained in gun safety and use. Prior to this, I have never personally encountered anyone who trained a child to use a sidearm, only hunting weapons. That is not to say gun enthusiasts do not allow their kids to target practice with pistols, but it is rare to actively train one in automatic weaponry except among the radical fringe.
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The only time I've ever seen anyone with an age in single digits handle a sidearm at an NRA-sanctioned event, there were adult hands steadying both younger arms -- and the pistol was a .22.

Heck, the Boys Scouts never allowed anything bigger than a .22 for the kids!

I'd say sue the place, but the guy who made the mistake has already paid.
 
purina said:
I wonder if she had her burger before or after.

Video is here: http://www.smh.com.au/world/shooting-instructor-shot-dead-by-girl-9-20140827-108wed.html
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Wow. The number of errors there.... I have to wonder if this "instructor" was even certified.

I've watched training by an NRA instructor with an automatic weapon. You don't just let the student shoot a single round once, you go through a whole bunch -- in the case I saw, a full magazine of fifty rounds. Each time you make sure the student is compensating for the kick, which under Newton's laws inevitably raise the tip of the barrel. Once that magazine is gone, you switch to burst fire, which is generally three shots to one trigger pull. That makes the rise of the barrel even more severe, so again you go through the whole magazine until you're certain the student is managing it. And when you finally go to full auto, the instructor should have a hand lightly on the controlling arm so if the student fails to control the gun will still be kept down.

My heart goes out to the girl. Hopefully someone will get the law changed to forbid letting someone that small train with such a weapon -- I suspect the people who wrote the existing laws never imagined anyone would be this stupid.
 
gsdx said:
For those who didn't read the report, the girl's parents were on the firing range with her and her instructor. They're very lucky only the instructor was shot and killed. The girl could very easily have become an orphan.
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The parents -- though I'm not going to assume anything about this place enforcing proper range safety! -- should have been at least two paces back and two more off to the side, which would have put them out of the danger zone if to the right, not so much if to the left.

I hope the range owner (if that wasn't him) steps up and covers the cost of whatever counseling the girl needs.
 
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