Giving blowjobs without condoms... how safe is it? [merged]

[bluedragon4]

Re: Giving blowjobs without condoms... how safe is it?

Totally fine. That's your choice.

Good call gaywill19 on the flavored condoms.... never tried one but that could be great... like sucking a lollipop haha.

Oh yeah, just like sucking a lollipop. Condoms in your mouth is gross enough let alone throwing a flavor on it.

 

[jockboy01]

Re: Giving blowjobs without condoms... how safe is it?

I was being a bit facetious about a lollipop bluedragon4.... I really have never tried the flavored condoms though.

And I would agree that molluscum can be transmitted through sexual contact. I guess therefore you could consider it an STD.... but I still don't, just personal feelings on the matter. But I could see how somebody else could.

 

[college30125]

Re: Giving blowjobs without condoms... how safe is it?

I'm interested in this as well, I was only sexually active from August 05 to the weekend before Halloween 05. I used condoms for everything but oral sex and then I got tested April 20 of this year, it came back negative/nonreactive. Would you all say that is a result I can trust? Just curious what everyone thinks.

 

[bluedragon4]

Re: Giving blowjobs without condoms... how safe is it?

I was being a bit facetious about a lollipop bluedragon4.... I really have never tried the flavored condoms though.

And I would agree that molluscum can be transmitted through sexual contact. I guess therefore you could consider it an STD.... but I still don't, just personal feelings on the matter. But I could see how somebody else could.

I know- I was just kiddin with ya.

 

[jockboy01]

Re: Giving blowjobs without condoms... how safe is it?

college30125, yes, I think you can trust that result. The chance of it being falsely negative is extremely low. So congratulations... no HIV for you.

 

[college30125]

Re: Giving blowjobs without condoms... how safe is it?

Thanks for the reply, I worry a lot lol.

 

[Christopher123]

Re: Giving blowjobs without condoms... how safe is it?

Thanks for the reply, I worry a lot lol.

And for good reason.

I personally don't think I could suck on a condom either. But yeah, the worry is there. This is precisely why I don't pick up and take home strange men. I'm not saying a guy you've known for a long time is any cleaner than someone you've known for 5 minutes, but I still like to know someone for a while before I'll have sex with them.

Not that it really makes a difference. I mean, think about it. You can know someone for 3 years, but do you know their complete sexual history? If they say they've been tested for HIV, how do you know they're not lying? And if they're not lying, where have they been since they've been tested?

It almost makes you want to go celibate. It's damn scary. I know someone personally who died from AIDS. However, she was an intravenous drug user. That's how she contracted it. But she also slept around a lot. Who knows how many people she passed it on to.

Over the course of several months, I watched her waste away before my very eyes. Her hair thinned out to where she was almost bald. She turned to skin and bones. She was only in her 20's and could barely make it up a flight of 5 stairs. She was a beautiful girl until it took her over, then she looked like a walking corpse.

This disease is very real and very sad. And when someone you know personally dies from it, it hits a little closer to home.

Don't take stupid risks. It's not worth your life. And for crying out loud, NEVER bareback.

 

[Soilwork]

Re: Getting HIV by receiving head?

"minimal" would be being kind.

Although it's TECHNICALLY possilbe, you've got a better chance of being hit by falling asteroids.

there was ONE study in Australia a few years back where there were two men with penis peircings who felt that's how they had been infected, but past that, there's been nothing.

There was a study in France with some crazy high number of couples where one was HIV+ and one was HIV-, and with something like 10,000 instances of oral sex, not a single infection was found. Same with a smaller study in San Francisco a while back, and both of those studies included people who both sucked and GOT sucked.

Things that might increase chances are if you're uncut and the guy sucking your dick has a bleeding sore of some kind.

But even then.. chances are minimal to say the least.

(but good question.. it's best to learn the facts and then make a decision for yourself.)

 

[DiaryOfAMadman]

Re: Getting HIV by receiving head?

Yes, I remember hearing in health class that if you have a cut or some sort of open wound in your mouth there is a risk there. But normally you cannot transfer STD's through oral contact. Better safe than sorry.

BULLSHIT ! No I'm not cursing at you but just shouting it out to make a point. It is very easy to contract many STD's through oral sex, however it is HIV that is difficult to contract through oral sex.

 

[jockboy01]

Re: Getting HIV by receiving head?

0.5 in 10,000 is the estimate per Adidasluvr's post below this. That's pretty low for sure. I don't know how accurate wikepedia is for medical information. But I would agree that the chance of a top in oral sex getting HIV is low. However, as stated, many other STD's can in fact be acquired in this manner.

 

[Soilwork]

Re: Getting HIV by receiving head?

Generally, relying in Wikipedia for anything other than a good laugh.

But those stats seem about right.

However, it IS popssible to catch STDs through oral sex... HIV just isn't one of the ones that's easy to catch that way.

The rest? Well, most of them are quite easy to catch through blowjobs, although most of them are also curable (or at least manageable) with the right drugs.

 

[HartfordGuy]

Re: Getting HIV by receiving head?

HIV is a bloodborne pathogen. It is not transferred by casual contact like a flu or cold virus.

It requires transfer by blood or semen. Getting a blowjob is 99% safe. I say 99% because I suppose there is a risk if you get bitten by an HIV+ positive guy who has just gotten his teeth cleaned and his gums are bleeding or something.

So is it possible? yes. Likely? Not really.

But as already pointed out, just about all other STDs are possible to catch thru oral sex. Some are easy to get rid of , others are not. Hell, even crabs are a pain in the ass. (no pun intended)

But I wouldn't freak out if you discovered you just got head from an HIV+ guy.

Now if you blew him, that is another story altogether. There is still debate over whether you can get HIV by ingesting semen. But if you have bleeding gums from dental work, or open cuts in your mouth then you are at risk. Supposedly if the guy shoots and you get his load in your eyes it can absorb into blood vessels.

So it is far safer for a HIV negative person to get head from an HIV+ bottom than the other way around.

In reality, you should practice Safe Sex as if every partner had HIV.

Until a cure is found, be safe. You can still have sex if you are HIV+, just be responcible and inform your partners that safe sex is mandatory. Discuss what you and he can do or shouldn't do.

Just be careful, be responcible. And if the unthinkable happens (condom breaks or you get an eyeful of jizm) go get tested. But keep in mind that the virus has to be in your system long enough to show up on a test. If you run out the next morning and get tested, you might still get a negative result. Your doctor or clinic will probably recommend you come back for a retest in a month or so.

It may not be a death sentance like it used to be, but you still don't want it.

The best thing we can do until a cure is found is to be informed and aware. If you don't have it, you need to protect yourself. If you do get it, you need to protect your partner(s).

 

[bluedragon4]

Re: Getting HIV by receiving head?

Not this question again!!! there is a long thread about oral and condoms just a few threads down.

 

[Big_Boi]

Re: Getting HIV by receiving head?

Things that might increase chances are if you're uncut and the guy sucking your dick has a bleeding sore of some kind.

why is having an uncut dick an increased risk?i dont get it...

and hypothetically speaking if i blew an hiv+ man and he came in my mouth;does it even matter if i swallow his cum then or does swallow/not swallow not have anything to do with increasing the risk?im a little confused

 

[Soilwork]

Uncut dicks have been proven to be just a bit more easy to absorb the HIV virus.

but what I need everyone to understand is that catching HIV from GETTING a blowjob is so rare that it's just not anything I would ever personally worry about.

 

[drhladnjak]

There was a study done that showed that guys with uncut dicks were more likely to become HIV+ than those who were cut. However, this only considered unprotected penis-in-vagina sex in some specific parts of Africa, so it's unknown if these risks translate to other forms of sex with different populations.

As for swallowing, a good friend of mine who's a doctor (now in general practice, but used to work in an STD clinic primarily for gay men in San Francisco) said he never swallows from strangers and tries to not to even get cum in his mouth. His main reasoning was that there's only some virus in precum whereas there's quite a lot in actual cum. A certain amount of virus is necessary for transmission, so the idea is that keeping it out of your mouth reduces the numbers and risk dramatically.

 

[bluedragon4]

There was a study done that showed that guys with uncut dicks were more likely to become HIV+ than those who were cut. However, this only considered unprotected penis-in-vagina sex in some specific parts of Africa, so it's unknown if these risks translate to other forms of sex with different populations.

As for swallowing, a good friend of mine who's a doctor (now in general practice, but used to work in an STD clinic primarily for gay men in San Francisco) said he never swallows from strangers and tries to not to even get cum in his mouth. His main reasoning was that there's only some virus in precum whereas there's quite a lot in actual cum. A certain amount of virus is necessary for transmission, so the idea is that keeping it out of your mouth reduces the numbers and risk dramatically.

Even though I don't use a condom for oral ,nor do I believe it's risky, I would never let a stranger cum in my mouth. I have only been sexual with my bf in 4 years but before that I whored it up. Guys always let me cum in their mouths and it always made me think differently of them. Is that odd? I was always more concerned with std's not hiv.Plus this might sound even odder but I thought it was not classy to let guys cum in my mouth.I didn't want anyone to think I was a pig whore. I was just your normal variety vanilla whore.Am I alone in that thinking? I'm laughing as I write this cause it sounds nuts!

 

[jockboy01]

does it even matter if i swallow his cum then or does swallow/not swallow not have anything to do with increasing the risk?

While I haven't found any statistics on this, I would assume it doesn't really matter whether you swallow or not if he cums in your mouth. The transmission is through the oral mucosa and any microabrasions. Once it is in the stomach, the acid kills HIV I believe.

Feel free to correct me if this is not the case, but I think it is.

 

[Riverrick]

While I haven't found any statistics on this, I would assume it doesn't really matter whether you swallow or not if he cums in your mouth. The transmission is through the oral mucosa and any microabrasions. Once it is in the stomach, the acid kills HIV I believe.

Feel free to correct me if this is not the case, but I think it is.

Well it does have to travel down the esophagus which would seem to increase your exposure even more (i.e. more surface area of mucosa that the semen comes in contact with).

It sounds like it could make a difference but I have no way of knowing whether it really does.

 

[3nipples]

While I haven't found any statistics on this, I would assume it doesn't really matter whether you swallow or not if he cums in your mouth. The transmission is through the oral mucosa and any microabrasions. Once it is in the stomach, the acid kills HIV I believe.

Feel free to correct me if this is not the case, but I think it is.

This is in line with my understanding. I would only add what should be obvious with respect to stomach acid killing HIV, that spitting it out would still be better.