Glee! [merged]

[josher]

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I love evrything about this show. except:

the terrible lipsynching

and

the wife/pregnancy subplot. It's silly, takes up too much time and has ben done to death before. When I saw next week's preview with the sister holding a plastic belly pad to fake the pregnancy, I wanted to scream.

 

[maxpowr9]

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I love evrything about this show. except:

the terrible lipsynching

and

the wife/pregnancy subplot. It's silly, takes up too much time and has ben done to death before. When I saw next week's preview with the sister holding a plastic belly pad to fake the pregnancy, I wanted to scream.

yah and gotta love some plot holes, like when theyre in the tub together. Because your husband, that you sleep with every night won't know you are wearing a belly pad.

As great of a show that it is, the plot is just so bad it has nowhere to develop. Get the cheer-os to start lezzing out or some hot gay action in the glee club to make it more interesting.

 

[AbnormalDann]

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I love evrything about this show. except:

the terrible lipsynching

and

the wife/pregnancy subplot. It's silly, takes up too much time and has ben done to death before. When I saw next week's preview with the sister holding a plastic belly pad to fake the pregnancy, I wanted to scream.

Don't the actors actually sing? That's what I like about the show despite the heavy autotuning.

 

[GayJerseyGuy]

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Loved the pilot...have my DVR set to record the show. Plus, the Glee teacher is HOT!

 

[YeahWhatever]

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Yeah, I thought the singing voices were terribly dubbed in.

I find the storyline of the teacher and his controlling wife super boring. He should just hook up with the redheaded-Anna Faris and get it over with.

 

[bostonboy20]

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Don't the actors actually sing? That's what I like about the show despite the heavy autotuning.

yes they actually sing...but they are pre-recorded tracks that they lipsync to when filming. I don't have a problem with it when it's like the big musical numbers (Don't Stop Believin') but when it was Gold Digger and Say A Little Prayer, when it was just a few people in the music room but it sounds like a full choir singing in an arena, it threw it off a bit for me.

and yeah the wife/pregnancy is annoying...BUT Jessalyn Gilsig is so fantastic I look past it. I just hope Ryan Murphy doesn't kill her off of this show like he killed her off of Nip/Tuck!

 

[uflyguy]

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One of my favorite new shows of the year. Great singers, funny characters, truly entertaining all around.

 

[josher]

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Don't the actors actually sing? That's what I like about the show despite the heavy autotuning.

Almost all singing in film and television is pre-recorded and then dubbed.

But in most films they also do post-dubbing to fix as many mistakes as they can.

They're clearly not doing that here, perhaps due to time or financial restraints.

Or perhaps the actors are just too young and inexperienced to do it well.

 

[tHaTeViLmOnKeY]

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Well it's not financial concerns when it comes to the poor dubbing since the episodes are costing upwards of 5 million dollars to produce. Then again, the majority of that is going to the rights for the songs so maybe there really isn't that much left over for other things like that.

Still though there's just so much to love. The cast is awesome and clearly very talented. Definitely on my top 10 list.

 

[Chocobttm]

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I have such a new obsession with this show, it's only been two episodes and I'm in love. I like anything musical though, so it was easy to pull me in. And then there is Cory Monteith and his infinite cuteness.

 

[YeahWhatever]

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^Cory's cute, but I find his faux-hawked friend much hotter. I think we saw a tease of him with no shirt on.

 

[StlKj]

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I haven't been this excited and satisfied about a show since Buffy went off the air.

Wow, not only am I gay, but I think I might be a teenage girl.

 

[falconfan]

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I want to like this show more than I do. It has some hilarious moments (Finn's flashback, most of the time Jane Lynch is on screen) and I enjoy some of the musical numbers alot (Don't Stop Believing was incredible) but something just doesn't resonate with me. I can't help but notice both the gay character and the black character are total stereotypes, all the women seem to define themselves by their need for the men, who have the luxury of being normal in a world where are the women are just inexplicably one sided and zany. It's like I LOVE quirky shows with quirky characters. But Glee's not set up like most shows I've seen pull off the quirky/hyperboyle character matrix: it's not one real person in a world of hyperboyle (Arrested Development), or real people from an off beat exaggerated world (Pushing Daisies), or the real world with a few incredibly quirky characters sprinkled in (Buffy). Glee is some bizarre and unsatisfying half and half situation that just makes you wonder... why the hell doesn't he just DUMP glue gun bitch, or why doesn't Finn tell Cheerleader McBitchy to kick rocks. These women have no redeeming qualities so the relationships they have are just puzzling.

 

[StlKj]

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It's not just the women, falcon. The PE coach is thick-headed and smokes pot. The seemingly earnest and caring lead character planted marijuana in the jock's locker and blackmailed him to join the glee club. The jock is a horny dullard who still lets friends torment geeks. The other jocks are all stereotypical pricks. The former glee club sponsor was a closeted gay guy. The principal is a tightwad.

The show's humor is based on all of these high school stereotypes banging up against each other. I think the weird disconnect you might be feelings is that it also then tries to play it straight and sincere in some of the musical numbers and the characters' feelings. It's almost like the moral tacked on at the end of every South Park episode. It's a somewhat schizo little show.

Love it.

 

[falconfan]

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It's not just the women, falcon. The PE coach is thick-headed and smokes pot. The seemingly earnest and caring lead character planted marijuana in the jock's locker and blackmailed him to join the glee club. The jock is a horny dullard who still lets friends torment geeks. The other jocks are all stereotypical pricks. The former glee club sponsor was a closeted gay guy. The principal is a tightwad.

The show's humor is based on all of these high school stereotypes banging up against each other. I think the weird disconnect you might be feelings is that it also then tries to play it straight and sincere in some of the musical numbers and the characters' feelings. It's almost like the moral tacked on at the end of every South Park episode. It's a somewhat schizo little show.

Love it.

I would disagree. The things youre pointing out, isolated incidents that are barely mentioned in characters that over all appeal to be much more whole and noraml, are nothign compared to the insanity of Jane Lynch's militant characters, Rachel's absolutely obsessive lust for fame, Terri's atrocious avarice, or the head cheerleaders boundless need for popularity... these character traits DEFINE characters. They are motivating factors for the central female characters and many (materialism and popularity often pegged as negative stereotypes about women (you know those catty wenches LOVE to shop).

Where as things you describes, the fact a teacher smokes pot or that Schuster was willing to frame Finn to get him in Glee they're events not the kind of traits that consume a character. You're correct in your note about Finn's teammate being extremely stereotypical of jocks. I don't know why I didn't notice that maybe because Finn provides a blance for the jock stereotype while all the cheerleaders still move as a unit.

 

[chance1]

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watching the shoe right now - missed it on wednesday

awesome

cute boys

good singing

funny likeable characters

the lead girl singer is amazing - what a great voice - so she's in love with the lead guy? he's cute

i have it on my dvr

 

[StlKj]

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I would disagree. The things youre pointing out, isolated incidents that are barely mentioned in characters that over all appeal to be much more whole and noraml, are nothign compared to the insanity of Jane Lynch's militant characters, Rachel's absolutely obsessive lust for fame, Terri's atrocious avarice, or the head cheerleaders boundless need for popularity... these character traits DEFINE characters. They are motivating factors for the central female characters and many (materialism and popularity often pegged as negative stereotypes about women (you know those catty wenches LOVE to shop).

Where as things you describes, the fact a teacher smokes pot or that Schuster was willing to frame Finn to get him in Glee they're events not the kind of traits that consume a character. You're correct in your note about Finn's teammate being extremely stereotypical of jocks. I don't know why I didn't notice that maybe because Finn provides a blance for the jock stereotype while all the cheerleaders still move as a unit.

Well, considering the audience this show targets the most, teen girls, the female stereotypes/quirks are probably quite deliberate. They're likely to identify with, or at least recognize, people like these characters.

I don't dismiss the males' bad traits as quickly as you do; I think they're pretty defining as well. It's not like we've seen much depth on anyone's part, and even the two guys we're supposed to be rooting for are stereotypes. I'm willing to give this show many more episodes before jumping to the idea that it's misogynist--we're only two episodes in, after all.

Besides, the music is pretty.

 

[brian1052000]

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LOVED IT!!! It was really good. I look at TV strictly for entertainment. I try very hard to not disect every little thing about the show. And just enjoy it.

 

[falconfan]

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Well, considering the audience this show targets the most, teen girls, the female stereotypes/quirks are probably quite deliberate. They're likely to identify with, or at least recognize, people like these characters.

I don't dismiss the males' bad traits as quickly as you do; I think they're pretty defining as well. It's not like we've seen much depth on anyone's part, and even the two guys we're supposed to be rooting for are stereotypes. I'm willing to give this show many more episodes before jumping to the idea that it's misogynist--we're only two episodes in, after all.

Besides, the music is pretty.

I agree it needs more time. I mean critics love it. It's got it's moments. I WANT to like it but whenever the Schuster/bitch wife storyline or Finn/Bitch girlfriend storyline comes up I can't help but think... shut up and get on with this already. If you're going to have such staunch and unsympathizable characters they really should be used for comedy (ie Lynch's character) not for someone we'd have to reasonably expect the protagonists care about.

 

[giftart]

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LOVED IT!!! It was really good. I look at TV strictly for entertainment. I try very hard to not disect every little thing about the show. And just enjoy it.

Same here! Love it and just watch it for entertainment!. Enjoy it very very MUCH!

Also, their 1-liners = funny.

The guy on wheelchair belongs to this Group called NLT.

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