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Glee! [merged]
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FuryOfFirestorm
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I guess after seeing the how happy the adoptive mother was with the baby (now that she's working at the school), Quinn probably decided that getting the baby back would "fix" all the shit in her life (which it won't, because as Mr. Shue pointed out, Quinn's problems are her own damn fault). Plus, teenagers have a habit of wanting something someone else has. (Quinn didn't really pursue Finn until he started dating Rachael).
It's funny. Quinn wants her baby back (full on custody) yet Puck clearly has the brains (a scary thought) to just be a part of the child's life and not custody.
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I think it comes down to the fact that the writers don't think of the characters as people but props, and so there's no real flow to their lives. Too many ridiculous things can happen in any given episode because of this and it does NOT work well. All it does is give the writers more excuses not to go deeper into character and story development.
Quinn and Puck caring about their baby at all? That's a real WTF? to what the writers were thinking. Is it their attempt to develop Quinn's personality? Because it comes off as a sad ploy to add more bumpy and unrealistic drama to the show.
Puck's reaction and development, even if brought on by this weird return of Idina Menzel is actually more believable. Cory Monteith dancing? Not so much.
Quinn and Puck caring about their baby at all? That's a real WTF? to what the writers were thinking. Is it their attempt to develop Quinn's personality? Because it comes off as a sad ploy to add more bumpy and unrealistic drama to the show.
Puck's reaction and development, even if brought on by this weird return of Idina Menzel is actually more believable. Cory Monteith dancing? Not so much.
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Overall i liked the episode but have to agree with what some of you said.
Quinn is just getting ridiculous, one minute she’s a punk rebel and the next she’s back to normal. What the heck happened to her anyways during the summer that made her so miserable? Random!
I loved Brittany as usual.
I’m starting to think that they’re overdoing it with the gay theme.
And totally off topic in this episode but where the heck is Karofsky?
Quinn is just getting ridiculous, one minute she’s a punk rebel and the next she’s back to normal. What the heck happened to her anyways during the summer that made her so miserable? Random!
I loved Brittany as usual.
I’m starting to think that they’re overdoing it with the gay theme.
And totally off topic in this episode but where the heck is Karofsky?
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Well, Quinn is not back to normal. She is only pretending.
I missed out a lot on the second season, so maybe I'm not exactly too tired of some of the things you guys are, but I do like that Finn is getting less airtime, but he did say in the starting he has no idea what to do for his future. Mercedes is getting a bigger role in the next episode, it seems....
I missed out a lot on the second season, so maybe I'm not exactly too tired of some of the things you guys are, but I do like that Finn is getting less airtime, but he did say in the starting he has no idea what to do for his future. Mercedes is getting a bigger role in the next episode, it seems....
I have never seen Blaine as really being a good choice of a boyfriend for Kurt. The painful truth is that Kurt is a very jealous and competitive individual, and this has played out even within his relationships with the others in the New Directions, and it was very apparent in the Warblers.
Kurt and Blaine are both equally talented, but Blaine has a more marketable sort of talent than Kurt. Blaine cannot just play straight, he is actually good at flirting with his female audiences. Blaine understands that when he is performing it is all about the audience, not about him. This is something any successful performer knows.
With Kurt, the performance is all about him, and he is often almost oblivious to his audience. Aside from the fact that Kurt simply cannot bury his own personality enough to, for example, play a straight romantic role (which Blaine can), he often actively rejects playing the roles he auditions for. One does not audition for the role of Tony in West Side Story by singing Barbra or doing Shakespeare! Kurt, determined to showcase his preferences in music and theater more than audition for the actual role, went completely off-script and shot straight out of the genre entirely!
Therein lay the problem.
Blaine is likely to do better at getting the kinds of roles that Kurt wants because, unlike Kurt, he has decided not to proactively typecast himself. He is prepared to play someone other than himself. Kurt is too determined to inject himself into his roles that he may not be qualified for those roles.
Burt's advice was really quite apt. If Kurt wants to be the guy who wears a kilt to the prom, and does not ever want to compromise on his individuality, then he is going to have to write his own roles. That is going to limit his opportunities in theater and, ultimately, will probably set him on a career path to becoming a choreographer, writer or director rather than a star perfomer. At least until and unless he can make a name for himself. Blaine is the kind of pop star type that teenage girls hang posters of on their walls. He will always have more mass-market appeal than Kurt.
Which is where I see a problem. Rachel is confident in her relationship with Finn because a) he is less talented than she is, and b) they will almost never be competing for the same roles.
Kurt and Blaine, however, will be competing for roles. It was kind of stupid that Kurt thought that Blaine coming to McKinley would make them less competitive than if Blaine were at Dalton. There is barely enough air in the music room for Kurt and Rachel's egos on a good day! Start adding more competition to the New Directions and it is a recipe for conflict.
Could Kurt ever be happy if Blaine became a pop star while Kurt was working off-off-Broadway theater? My sense is that no, he could not. He is not the type who can cope well with being in second. He did not handle it well with the Warblers and I do not see it working in adult life either.
They are a cute couple, but to me they seem like a doomed one.
Kurt and Blaine are both equally talented, but Blaine has a more marketable sort of talent than Kurt. Blaine cannot just play straight, he is actually good at flirting with his female audiences. Blaine understands that when he is performing it is all about the audience, not about him. This is something any successful performer knows.
With Kurt, the performance is all about him, and he is often almost oblivious to his audience. Aside from the fact that Kurt simply cannot bury his own personality enough to, for example, play a straight romantic role (which Blaine can), he often actively rejects playing the roles he auditions for. One does not audition for the role of Tony in West Side Story by singing Barbra or doing Shakespeare! Kurt, determined to showcase his preferences in music and theater more than audition for the actual role, went completely off-script and shot straight out of the genre entirely!
Therein lay the problem.
Blaine is likely to do better at getting the kinds of roles that Kurt wants because, unlike Kurt, he has decided not to proactively typecast himself. He is prepared to play someone other than himself. Kurt is too determined to inject himself into his roles that he may not be qualified for those roles.
Burt's advice was really quite apt. If Kurt wants to be the guy who wears a kilt to the prom, and does not ever want to compromise on his individuality, then he is going to have to write his own roles. That is going to limit his opportunities in theater and, ultimately, will probably set him on a career path to becoming a choreographer, writer or director rather than a star perfomer. At least until and unless he can make a name for himself. Blaine is the kind of pop star type that teenage girls hang posters of on their walls. He will always have more mass-market appeal than Kurt.
Which is where I see a problem. Rachel is confident in her relationship with Finn because a) he is less talented than she is, and b) they will almost never be competing for the same roles.
Kurt and Blaine, however, will be competing for roles. It was kind of stupid that Kurt thought that Blaine coming to McKinley would make them less competitive than if Blaine were at Dalton. There is barely enough air in the music room for Kurt and Rachel's egos on a good day! Start adding more competition to the New Directions and it is a recipe for conflict.
Could Kurt ever be happy if Blaine became a pop star while Kurt was working off-off-Broadway theater? My sense is that no, he could not. He is not the type who can cope well with being in second. He did not handle it well with the Warblers and I do not see it working in adult life either.
They are a cute couple, but to me they seem like a doomed one.
Well, for much of last season, Quinn's focus was on finding her way back to the top of the social pyramid. Having given birth and given the baby up for adoption, she was trying to resume the life she had always aspired to. The life she had dieted and exercised and gotten a nose job for. Becoming junior prom queen was all about validating her self-image and self-esteem. It was about denying the bad things that had happened to her and avoiding the pain by improving her life again.
But she didn't win, she has not regained her popularity and New Directions did not even place well at Nationals. Her effort to put her life back on track did not work out.
The problem is that all of this happened last season, so it is easy to lose sight of the continuity (and this is a rare case of there being such a thing on Glee). Quinn ended the season with nothing. No crown, no boyfriend, no victory. So she crashed and became a burnout. Now she wants her baby back because, frankly, what else has she got?
But she didn't win, she has not regained her popularity and New Directions did not even place well at Nationals. Her effort to put her life back on track did not work out.
The problem is that all of this happened last season, so it is easy to lose sight of the continuity (and this is a rare case of there being such a thing on Glee). Quinn ended the season with nothing. No crown, no boyfriend, no victory. So she crashed and became a burnout. Now she wants her baby back because, frankly, what else has she got?
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I thought that was what it would be. I see....
I'm just coming into this thread, so this has probably been brought up before, but here is my main problem with Glee: there are certain decisions made for the sake of comedy that tarnish how I see the show. One thing, which I've seen mentioned, is that Sue should be behind bars. But the show wants to keep that thread going, so I'm forced to see Glee as this alternative reality where there just isn't any enforced authority. It's a similar problem with the show choir contests. The performances themselves are professionally executed, but then we go to the judges' room and the scene is a full on satire, as well as a conduit for cameos, which we end up not really caring for because the judges are immature, self-absorbed, and just entirely incompetent overall. And whatever humor may come out of it, I think it's ill-advised; it makes the competitions look like a farce, and completely spoils the merits of the New Directions' success (or any other group for that matter).
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I'm really disappointed in the music so far this season.
Me too... It's SO boring... What happened to the lively upbeat performances?
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I just got around to watching this weeks episode -
Not only was it so-so (Quinn suddenly wanting the baby, etc) but the number with Kurt was so over the top... He wants to play Tony in West Side Story but he auditions as Streisand???)
But what really tells me what I think of the show this season is that it took me 4 days to get around to watching it.
Not only was it so-so (Quinn suddenly wanting the baby, etc) but the number with Kurt was so over the top... He wants to play Tony in West Side Story but he auditions as Streisand???)
But what really tells me what I think of the show this season is that it took me 4 days to get around to watching it.
I thought this was the best so far this season.
The Asian F thing, believe me I get it.................I lived It!!! The show has never really had much Reality to it but at times tapped into some good ideas. Unfortunately , there never has been much follow thru on them or maybe that has always been the charm.
I love Brittany. She is so funny - I find her dumbness endearing and she, the actor, is really talented! She playes the part so well and damn she can dance!!!
The Asian F thing, believe me I get it.................I lived It!!! The show has never really had much Reality to it but at times tapped into some good ideas. Unfortunately , there never has been much follow thru on them or maybe that has always been the charm.
I love Brittany. She is so funny - I find her dumbness endearing and she, the actor, is really talented! She playes the part so well and damn she can dance!!!
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Dude your issue sounds like it has less to do with the Character and more to do with your own personal issues from school. That aside yes she is talented and yes generally she does most of the soul/blues stuff just like Rachel does most of the Broadway numbers, and Santana and Brittney get the general pop stuff. If we go strictly by the type of song they perform the most they will all look pretty one note.
I think this was one of the best episodes in quite sometime and I loved the Dreamgirls analogy of Rachel and Mercedes it really does fit they way those two in particular have been shown the entire series.
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This week's episode was just ok. I'm still so underwelmed with it. I do like seeing more of Harry though.
Loved the Dreamgirls number. It paralleled Effie and Mercedes life stories really well.
They did a good job of giving the supporting cast some facetime/storylines/musical numbers. That's something a lot of fans have criticized about it.
They did a good job of giving the supporting cast some facetime/storylines/musical numbers. That's something a lot of fans have criticized about it.
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Loved the episode. Had to skip afew parts as usual (like Mike Chang dancing with no music) but I liked the ep.
Mercedes is pretty much a fat and black Rachel. She thinks she's this diva who deserves it all, they're not different.
And I suddenly find Mike Chang super hot. Always thought he was but now I can't get my eyes off him.
Mercedes is pretty much a fat and black Rachel. She thinks she's this diva who deserves it all, they're not different.
And I suddenly find Mike Chang super hot. Always thought he was but now I can't get my eyes off him.
