God Bless America Sign On Front Of Public School Building

[metta]

Is that legal? I was just driving home and noticed a big sign on the front of a public elementary school building that says "God Bless America."

 

[BearBoi]

Phone your local ACLU and ask.

(Hey, if you say it gave you a trauma you might even get some $ out of it. lol)

 

[kallipolis]

My favourite version of God bless America with Kate Smith - from This is the Army

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnQDW-NMaRs[/ame]

 

[BostonPirate]

when I see that kind of thing, I usually ask the question in my head, but decide I have better things to do.

I guess if i had kids I would force myself to make a decision. Kids and god are not a bad mix.

Guns and god? now that one is kind of fucked up.

 

[kallipolis]

when I see that kind of thing, I usually ask the question in my head, but decide I have better things to do.

I guess if i had kids I would force myself to make a decision. Kids and god are not a bad mix.

Guns and god? now that one is kind of fucked up.

At Pearl Harbor on the 6th December, 1941 there were not a few Americans who met God, before they had a chance to return the uninvited favour bestowed up them out of the blue on what had been a very peaceful Sunday morning.

 

[BearBoi]

At Pearl Harbor on the 6th December, 1941 there were not a few Americans who met God, before they had a chance to return the uninvited favour bestowed up them out of the blue on what had been a very peaceful Sunday morning.

They may have been surprised, but Washington wasn't. Up until Pearl Harbour the American People had been staunchly against going to war, despite Washington’s lust to do so. When Washington received multiple warnings about the oncoming Japanese fleet, from as far away as Australia, they ignored them. Pearl Harbour was an invitation, and it worked like a charm; over the next several months, hundreds of thousands of active military personnel reenlisted, as well as 1,000,000 new recruits, and the America people were lusting for revenge.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0684818868"]Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong[/ame]

 

[ronboy]

when I see that kind of thing, I usually ask the question in my head, but decide I have better things to do.

I guess if i had kids I would force myself to make a decision. Kids and god are not a bad mix.

Guns and god? now that one is kind of fucked up.

At Pearl Harbor on the 6th December, 1941 there were not a few Americans who met God, before they had a chance to return the uninvited favour bestowed up them out of the blue on what had been a very peaceful Sunday morning.

I think you mean 7 December 1941...6 December was a Saturday...

 

[BostonPirate]

I think you mean 7 December 1941...6 December was a Saturday...

the quotes are all broken wrong in that thing

 

[BostonPirate]

eeek.... what is up with the quote function????

 

[okstatecowboy]

Metta- to answer your original question...

Yes, the sign is legal. While it may border on the whole seperation of church and state issue, most courts would uphold the sign as patriotic rather than religious. The trickier question would be who placed the sign... if a church group placed it, then it would have to be removed based upon various court issued rulings (I don't have my Ed law book handy to state the cases). If however, it was a student group at the school that happened to be religious in nature, the court would uphold the right to place the sign.

Hope this clears things up.
mikey

 

[star-warrior]

^^ It's ok, I went through and corrected the quote tags. A bold tag got trapped within a quote tag...

WRT to the sign, if there is a separation between church and state, it ought not be there if the school is run using taxpayer's money. But then I don't really know about the american school system much.

 

[Telstra]

if it is privately own it is legal.

If it is public money, it is not legal.

 

[BostonPirate]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgYrK7B4-w[/ame]

 

[bankside]

I don't believe that the phrase "God Bless America" denotes the endorsement of any specific religion.

I don't think that a proper constitution would permit the government to endorse any vague religion either.

 

[Triple G]

WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO GET IT. THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH IN THE US CONSTUTITION.!!!!!! IT IS A LIE MADE UP BY GODLESS SOCIALISTS.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

 

[scrapple]

I guess the bigger question is ...why does it bother you so much?

 

[BostonPirate]

you're welcome to your own views on what makes a "proper" constitution, but my understanding (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that the separation of church and state in the US constitution only applies to the government endorsing a specific religion (not just a vague, generic concept of "god")

the concept of american civil rights is tied to the idea of being god given and therefore not voidable by humanity.

Adams, Jefferson, and Washington quarreled about this all the time.

They never seem to have made a clear decision, personally or as a body of leaders.

 

[CumAlong]

I guess the bigger question is ...why does it bother you so much?

I kind of have to agree...

why does it matter? The pledge of allegiance has 'under god' in it, and it neither endorses nor denies any religion.

I, of all people, as most of JUB knows, despise organized religion and all the hate and destruction it spreads around the world. But honestly, this isn't imposing on anyone, it isn't condoning or condemning anything, it is patriotic, and it doesn't matter the slightest bit.

When I see "God Bless America" or "One Nation Under God" I know it is not religiously intended, it is patriotic.

 

[gsdx]

I don't believe that the phrase "God Bless America" denotes the endorsement of any specific religion.

Seriously, the last time you heard the word 'God', did you think of Ra or Xe'ls?

 

[Ellybelly909]

I am a HS teacher and with all the school shootings that have happened in the US, we NEED GOD to bless America and our schools.