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GOP Congressman calls evolution lie from "Pit of Hell"

Corny said:
What I still don't get it is how there is still all this religious bullshit about evolution, when pope johannes paul II himself already said that evolution is more than "just a theory" and does not contradict christian beliefs. In "Humani generis" even Pius XII already said that you can believe in evolution and be a christian (but keep certain things in mind).

So .. again, what's the fucking problem?
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The problem is that he would probably say the Pope comes from the pit of hell too.
 
Bet also believes the world to be flat and that blood determines race.
 
Link certainly worked for me. I'm not often on board with the more liberal posters here but this guy and the religious right in the GOP are beyond appalling. A big part of the reason why while I'm no Obama fan at all I'm not hopping aboard the GOP wagon either.... mixing religious dogma and politics is a recipe for disaster. That he's on the science and technology committee is scary, since his world has no place for inquiry and discovery and progress.
 
There's an interesting footnote in that Wired mag article linked above:

Note: In looking for examples of scientifically unsupportable statements by members of the House science committee, every single anecdote involved statements by Republicans. Wired would be happy to update the article with examples of statements by Democratic members. If you have any, please add in the comments section.
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^This is exactly the problem. I am more than willing to admit that both sides have folks that are "not so bright". But, as Bill Maher likes to point out dumb conservatives are a lot worse (and more dangerous) than dumb liberals. A dumb liberal is a lazy, pothead that that doesn't know anything and doesn't give a fuck. A dumb conservative, on the other hand, doesn't know anything, but chooses to believe utter baseless nonsense (and defend it) instead.
 
Corny said:
What I still don't get it is how there is still all this religious bullshit about evolution, when pope johannes paul II himself already said that evolution is more than "just a theory" and does not contradict christian beliefs. In "Humani generis" even Pius XII already said that you can believe in evolution and be a christian (but keep certain things in mind).

So .. again, what's the fucking problem?
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To the religious blight, the Pope is the Antichrist.
 
cityboy-stl said:
Our moron senate candidate Todd Akin is also on the same committee. No wonder this country is falling so far behind and congress can't get anything done.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/08/house-committee-science/
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Wasn't it this same congressman (a medical doctor, by the way) who told Akin that women's bodies shut down during rape and they can't get pregnant. Granted, I'm amazed that an MD thinks embryology (as taught in medical school) is also a "lie from the pit of hell". Maybe he should be a witch doctor instead of a medical doctor. Can these wackos get raptured, already, so the rest of us can get on with progress?
 
It IS terrifying. (Almost as terrifying how close this election is going to be...)

I can understand, (sort of) people of his ilk claiming that global warming is a "hoax".

But, to make a statement such as, "I don't believe that the Earth's but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That's what the Bible says."

When simple, indisputable scientific evidence showing that the earth is about 4.5 billion years old. Archaeological and dating techniques show it, as Giancarlo said reveals a simple-mindedness (or clever voter pandering) that is mind-blowing.

If we're going to rely on The Big Book of Jewish Fairy Tales as a basis for governing our nation, our problems are even larger than we thought.
 
Joshua_me said:
But, to make a statement such as, "I don't believe that the Earth's but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That's what the Bible says."
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I wish one of these idiots would come say that where I can be in the audience. I want to stand up and scream, "Oh, give me a break -- it doesn't say that at all!"

These guys don't even know how to read. They stick with a bunch of sloppy arithmetic by a bored medieval bishop who didn't have a clue about what he was doing.
 
^ It is the intellectual sloppiness or laziness that is most offensive.

I have a great deal of respect for those who appreciate that their idea of God and religion is bound up in poetics and abstraction.

I have no time for those stupid children who have a dull belief in the notion that the old testament is the literal word of their God.

Jesus Christ.

Are they just developmentally slow?

I remember challenging this literal interpretation when I was in Sunday School and winning the day by demonstrating that that it was not meant to be a literal reading. I was 12 at the time.

Idiots like this man make evil happen with their small and limited minds.

The worst part is...they are trying to get control of the public policy and discourse.

For the love of all that is right; please do not let this happen.
 
rareboy said:
^ It is the intellectual sloppiness or laziness that is most offensive.

I have a great deal of respect for those who appreciate that their idea of God and religion is bound up in poetics and abstraction.

I have no time for those stupid children who have a dull belief in the notion that the old testament is the literal word of their God.

Jesus Christ.

Are they just developmentally slow?

I remember challenging this literal interpretation when I was in Sunday School and winning the day by demonstrating that that it was not meant to be a literal reading. I was 12 at the time.

Idiots like this man make evil happen with their small and limited minds.

The worst part is...they are trying to get control of the public policy and discourse.

For the love of all that is right; please do not let this happen.
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How did you demonstrate it wasn't meant to be literal? There are a couple of simple ways that don't require knwoing that the literary types in Genesis 1 & 2 aren't meant to be taken literally.

OTOH there are only small elements of what we would think of as poetic in them. But the Xtianists refuse to see anything poetic there... which suggests to me they lack poetry in their souls.
 
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