Gore Mansion Uses 20x Average Household; Consumption Increases After 'truth'

[NickCole]

Tennessee Center for Policy Research is a member of this group....

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=7069

....they are not considered a legitimate organization according to the Tennessee Department of Revenue...

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?news_id=54656

...and they quite possibly have stolen information about Gore, if anything they are saying is true. Utility bills are usually not public record.

And while we are at it, why does this organization so devoted to American business use Canadian hosting for their web site?

http://whois.domaintools.com/tennesseepolicy.org

I was just about to post this info -- so glad to see it here already!

This is what BushRepublicans --not all Republicans, BUSHREPUBLICANS-- do. They put together groups with misleading names and missions to smear decent honest Americans. It's called swiftboating. It's dishonest and smarmy and nasty and divisive and destructive. Reject it and reject BushRepublicans for being so corrosive.

Kudos to Al Gore, his honesty and decency and his tireless work to educate the world about pressing environmental issues. And congrats to him for the awards he's deservedly collecting.

 

[OtterJoq]

Thanks, theSMITHS...I just ran across the same information.

Seems this whole "Gore uses more energy than ANYONE EVER!!!" campaign is another well-funded smear campaign by desperate people who are REALLY pissed that Al is working hard at making a difference and is getting things done.

I'll wager Richard Mellon Scaife is behind this one, too. Sure has all the earmarks of one of his search-and-destroy missions.

Sad.

 

[OtterJoq]

• The Gore home uses compact fluorescent lights.

• The Gore home is currently being renovated to install solar panels.

• The Gores participate in the Green Power Switch® program. (Subscribers pay a premium on their power bills which goes to produce electricity from renewable sources which is then added to the Tennessee Valley’s power mix.)

• The Gores put money into an investment company (that Gore co-founded) which funds solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe.

• The Gores drive a Lexus hybrid SUV.

Source: tennessean.com

Come on, Bushies...refute this info point by point.

We're waiting.

 

[Soilwork]

You'll wait a long time.

they're busy forming some new Organization who's going to release information about how Barrak Obama spent his teenage years going to an Afghan terrorist training center. And that "Barrak" means "Eats Babies" in Farsi.

This is HUGE..



(I DO have to say that I find it very funny how so many people put ALL their faith in one article without actually researching the facts. They attacked us and called Al Gore a hypocrit and told us that we can't read. Then once it was proven that they were wrong, they all went scattering back into the darkness. Like I've said before, if you're going to talk out of your ass, at least have the deceny to douche first.)

 

[OtterJoq]

Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?

 

[pisces_ken02]

They will not respond...

I'm so happy that opinterph posted the info!!

 

[ComNavFdgPk]

...

I'll wager Richard Mellon Scaife is behind this one, too. Sure has all the earmarks of one of his search-and-destroy missions.

Sad.

Ye Gods!!!! I haven't heard that name since I was in college in Pittsburgh!

 

[JSB_01]

• The Gore home uses compact fluorescent lights.

• The Gore home is currently being renovated to install solar panels.

• The Gores participate in the Green Power Switch® program. (Subscribers pay a premium on their power bills which goes to produce electricity from renewable sources which is then added to the Tennessee Valley’s power mix.)

• The Gores put money into an investment company (that Gore co-founded) which funds solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe.

• The Gores drive a Lexus hybrid SUV.

Source: tennessean.com

Tennessee Center for Policy Research is a member of this group....

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=7069

....they are not considered a legitimate organization according to the Tennessee Department of Revenue...

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?news_id=54656

...and they quite possibly have stolen information about Gore, if anything they are saying is true. Utility bills are usually not public record.

And while we are at it, why does this organization so devoted to American business use Canadian hosting for their web site?

http://whois.domaintools.com/tennesseepolicy.org

The evidence sure is piling high!

 

[OtterJoq]

Ye Gods!!!! I haven't heard that name since I was in college in Pittsburgh!

He's still out there...doing some very bad things with some very large amounts of money.

 

[NedNickerson]

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659

Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill

2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's environmental hypocrisy.

Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.

"If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn't care," says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. "But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules."

Scoffed a former Gore adviser in response: "I think what you're seeing here is the last gasp of the global warming skeptics. They've completely lost the debate on the issue so now they're just attacking their most effective opponent."

Kalee Kreider, a spokesperson for the Gores, did not dispute the Center's figures, taken as they were from public records. But she pointed out that both Al and Tipper Gore work out of their home and she argued that "the bottom line is that every family has a different carbon footprint. And what Vice President Gore has asked is for families to calculate that footprint and take steps to reduce and offset it."

A carbon footprint is a calculation of the CO2 fossil fuel emissions each person is responsible for, either directly because of his or her transportation and energy consumption or indirectly because of the manufacture and eventual breakdown of products he or she uses. (You can calculate your own carbon footprint on the website http://www.carbonfootprint.com/)

The vice president has done that, Kreider argues, and the family tries to offset that carbon footprint by purchasing their power through the local Green Power Switch program — electricity generated through renewable resources such as solar, wind, and methane gas, which create less waste and pollution. "In addition, they are in the midst of installing solar panels on their home, which will enable them to use less power," Kreider added. "They also use compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy efficiency measures and then they purchase offsets for their carbon emissions to bring their carbon footprint down to zero."

These efforts did little to impress Johnson. "I appreciate the solar panels," he said, "but he also has natural gas lanterns in his yard, a heated pool, and an electric gate. While I appreciate that he's switching out some light bulbs, he is not living the lifestyle that he advocates."

The Center claims that Nashville Electric Services records show the Gores in 2006 averaged a monthly electricity bill of $1,359 for using 18,414 kilowatt-hours, and $1,461 per month for using 16,200 kilowatt-hours in 2005. During that time, Nashville Gas Company billed the family an average of $536 a month for the main house and $544 for the pool house in 2006, and $640 for the main house and $525 for the pool house in 2005. That averages out to be $29,268 in gas and electric bills for the Gores in 2006, $31,512 in 2005.

The press release from Johnson's group, an obscure conservative think tank founded by Johnson in 2004 when he was 24, was given splashy attention on the highly-trafficked Drudge Report Monday evening, and former Gore aides saw it as part of a piece, along with an Fox News Channel investigation from earlier this month of Gore's use of private planes in 2000. Last year, a seemingly amateurish Youtube video mocking the "An Inconvenient Truth" turned out to have been produced by slick Republican public relations firm called DCI, which just happens to have oil giant Exxon as a client.

"Considering that he spends an overwhelming majority of his time advocating on behalf of and trying to affect change on this issue, it's not surprising that people who have a vested interest in protecting the status quo would go after him," said the former Gore aide.

Kreider says she's confident that the Gores' utility bills will decrease. "They bought an older home and they're in the process of upgrading the home," she said. "Unfortunately that means an increase in energy use in order to have an overall decrease in energy use down the road."

Gore is not the only environmentalist associated with "An Inconvenient Truth" who has come under fire for personal habits -- and not all the criticism has come from the Right.

Writing in The Atlantic Monthly in 2004, liberal writer Eric Alterman criticized producer Laurie David for her use of private Gulfstream jets. David, he wrote "reviles the owners of SUVs as terrorist enablers, yet gives herself a pass when it comes to chartering one of the most wasteful uses of fossil-based fuels imaginable." New Republic writer Gregg Easterbrook followed up, computing that "one cross-country flight in a Gulfstream is the same, in terms of Persian-Gulf dependence and greenhouse-gas emissions, as if she drove a Hummer for an entire year."

In an interview in 2006, David told ABC News that she was limiting her use of private planes and was flying commercial far more frequently.

 

[NedNickerson]

The bold letters say it all.

There's an ulterior motive behind it all.

It's funny that this "local freemarket think tank" is espousing communism. Evidently, they want him (and every other rich person in a big house) to downsize to a 3-bedroom ranch in the suburbs.

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php

 

[NickCole]

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php

Yes Ned we know who they are.

For their "Policy Briefs," "Policy Reports," and "Commentary" the sources they cite are Cato Institute, Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute -- those are BushRepublican and Exxon and tobacco company sponsored "think tanks" designed to spew out propaganda.

This is only more BushRepublican swiftboating slime, like the Fox News "report" about Gore's --gasp!-- air travel in 2000. And, as the article you cut and pasted above points out, "Last year, a seemingly amateurish Youtube video mocking the "An Inconvenient Truth" turned out to have been produced by slick Republican public relations firm called DCI, which just happens to have oil giant Exxon as a client."

It's totally in character for BushRepublicans to personally attack people for telling an inconvenient truth rather than address the issue that he raises.

 

[Soilwork]

Well, that youtube video also continues the lie that Al Gore claimed to invent the internet.

He was talking about how when he was a young senator, he was one of the people who had written legislation that allowed public access to the internet which allowed it to grow into what it is today.

and so.. he was telling the truth.

but dont' confuse Repulbicanazis with the facts.

 

[Soilwork]

 

[NickCole]

Well, that youtube video also continues the lie that Al Gore claimed to invent the internet.

He was talking about how when he was a young senator, he was one of the people who had written legislation that allowed public access to the internet which allowed it to grow into what it is today.

and so.. he was telling the truth.

but dont' confuse Repulbicanazis with the facts.

Exactly.

First of all Gore never said he "invented" the Internet.

He said that as a member of Congress he "took the initiative in creating the Internet" -- which is clumsy wording but completely true.

In the 1980s he introduced the Gore Bill, which was later passed as the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991.

Because of Gore's contribution, anyone reading this can now Google his High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 and learn all about it.

Oh, and his wealth that bought the mansion that BushRepublicans are trying to smear him with now? It came primarily from his investment in Google.

 

[NedNickerson]

Yes Ned we know who they are.

For their "Policy Briefs," "Policy Reports," and "Commentary" the sources they cite are Cato Institute, Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute -- those are BushRepublican and Exxon and tobacco company sponsored "think tanks" designed to spew out propaganda.

This is only more BushRepublican swiftboating slime, like the Fox News "report" about Gore's --gasp!-- air travel in 2000. And, as the article you cut and pasted above points out, "Last year, a seemingly amateurish Youtube video mocking the "An Inconvenient Truth" turned out to have been produced by slick Republican public relations firm called DCI, which just happens to have oil giant Exxon as a client."

It's totally in character for BushRepublicans to personally attack people for telling an inconvenient truth rather than address the issue that he raises.

So, do you think this article critical of the Republicans is more propaganda?

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=301

 

[NickCole]

So, do you think this article critical of the Republicans is more propaganda?

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=301

Much as it criticizes BushRepublicans, the real message is criticism of Big Government and how inefficient government is when any one party has all the power.

The Heritage Foundation and Cato and American Enterprise have also come down on BushRepublicans for their outrageous spending while they controlled Congress and the WH. Notice none of that is personal attack, how it differs from the attack on Gore; it's criticism of a party and policy, not an individual's private life. If they disagree with what Gore says about global warming, then criticize it, take issue with the points he makes, present credible evidence that runs contrary to his argument. But that's not what they did. They attacked him personally, trying to slime him without even addressing the public policy point he's made.

 

[Soilwork]

. . . which of course they can't because as much as they hire scientists to prove otherwise, Global Warming is real. We were wrong in the 70s with global cooling. When 12,000 year old Ice Shelfs in Antarctica are breaking up, we have a much bigger problem than some smear-campaign "think tank" groups can make excuses to cover.

 

[Centexfarmer]

What does the Dredge Report have to do with anything?

Hell if Gore lived in the Park Cities area of Dallas, he probably would have torn that 70 year old house down (regardless of any historical value), and started from scratch.

But instead decided to renovate and upgrade an existing older home, while working with local officials to go green. He is leading by example.

 

[Centexfarmer]

Dredge Report. Dredge, as in dredge up a two month old post for no reason. <Sigh> do I have to explain everything to you, Centex? I'll quit trying to be clever and go back to being an asshole if that's what you want.
And that's quite a take on Gore leading by example. If I had his millions I could buy some "carbon credits" so I could go on polluting at will, too.

I think a better option for him would be to burn some of that excess fat he has. That would power his mansion for years.

For the record it's called The Drudge Report.

As to you being clever, or being an asshole? It's a free country.


Please don't let me stand in the way of any personal development.