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Greensburg, Kansas - Tornado aftermath?

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A few years ago, an F5 tornado tore through Greensburg, Kansas. A documentary series (on Discovery, I believe) made after the tornado was about the rebuilding of the town in a 'green', eco-friendly way. The mayor resigned very early into the series and a bunch of students were working very hard to make it happen.

When the series ended, not much had been done despite the plans and efforts.

So, has anything come of it? Is the town still rebuilding or has it pretty-much been abandoned?
 
I've always been curious why people choose to live in those extreme weather area's of the world... Tornado belts, blizzards, high heat... aren't you just asking for disaster? Aren't the odds against you?

Why aren't building codes in the tornado belt such that a house HAS to be mostly below ground, or some kind of cement dome structure???
 
There are extreme conditions just about everywhere. If you didn't live with the possibility of tornadoes, you would be living with the possibility of hurricanes or typhoons or earthquakes or avalanches or blizzards or floods or volcanoes or. . .
 
@borg69unamatrix >> For a lot of people, this is simply their home. They are aware of the risks, and are still fine with it. In fact, tornados are really fair game just about anywhere on the North American continent - even in Alaska!

Judging from these aerial pics on the town website, things are apparently coming along well for the town. They've come leaps and bounds for a small town from where they were...

(Courtesy Wikipedia - 12 days after the tornado)
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Great overnight coverage of the tornado from local ABC station KAKE-TV out of Wichita:


Also here's the radar imagery from the incident. Sorry, I'm a weather geek. \:/ The town names are almost impossible to see, but just off to the lower-center-left is the town of Greensburg. You can see that they basically had Zero chance to avoid this.

First is the basic rainfall image - you can easily pick out the spiral shape where the tornado is. The second image is the velocity mode - Here you can see the bright red against the bright green (raindrops moving towards and away from the radar). This is one way they use to detect wind speed within a storm. The brighter the color, the stronger the winds. You can see the spots that almost go completely white, meaning that the wind speeds are literally off the scale. The last set is hail detection. The white and purple are hail that's like over an inch and a half in diameter, which can do major damage.
 
jdcnow said:
In fact, tornados are really fair game just about anywhere on the North American continent
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FYI - Tornadoes occur on every continent except Antarctica. They're not a North American phenomenon, nor are they an American phenomenon. They happen quite regularly in Canada as well. (Canada also has a Tornado Alley.)
 
Weather geek here too - glad to see there are other gay weather geeks out there! :)
 
Teddybear71 said:
Weather geek here too - glad to see there are other gay weather geeks out there! :)
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Agreed!!! And way cool that you like it too! ..| When I get my debt paid off and can get a decent car (hopefully within the next few months if not by the end of this year), I can get the paperwork started on college. I actually want to study broadcast meteorology. So who knows. The sky's the limit! (!)
 
gsdx said:
Do you get weather bombs there? Lake-effect snow? Here are a few other weather phenomenon which might interest you: Alberta Clippers, Chinooks, Plough Winds, and Snow Rollers.
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That god-awful cold snap at the beginning of February that almost shut down the entire continent was called a McFarland Signature.

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The southern branch of the jet stream (that carries storms from west to east across the country) (that orange line) makes a letter N pattern across North America and brings all that deadly cold air straight from the north pole down over Canada and the US. The one that we had was a "true" McFarland Sig, which brought bitterly cold air and hard killing freezes as far south as northern Mexico. I for one hope never to see anything like that ever again!

Here's a complete dissertation from Marshall J McFarland, professor of enviromental studies at Texas A&M University, for whom the weather event was named for, and who first discovered the phenomenon. Quite intriguing. :corn: :corn:
 

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jdcnow said:
That god-awful cold snap at the beginning of February that almost shut down the entire continent was called a McFarland Signature.
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Never heard that expression before. Interesting, and thanks for posting it. I learned something new today.
 
Thanks to djcnow and gsdx for responding... I guess I've been pretty lucky where I live. While we did have a freak one about 10-15 miles from me not too long ago, tornado's are pretty rare here in Oregon... and for that I'm grateful! My apt. is on the second floor, and I doubt I'd fare very well if there was one here!

Also luckily, aside from some flooding in the past few years, some bad winters (for here- still mild compared to what the rest of the US gets), one earthquake ('small'... roughly 4.), and a bit of Ash from Mt. St. Helens I've generally missed most of the truly devastating aspects of nature unleashed.
 
The have spent $100's of millions of dollars rebuilding the town -- maybe even billions.

Many of the building are high energy efficient but not tornado proof.

A lot of big companies have given money to the city and businesses there to promote their "green agenda".

However, it's still out in the middle of no where in the dumpy state of Kansas.
 
^ Thanks, Jack

I know they were getting a lot of help, but there were a lot of problems there as well and I wasn't sure if the town was even going to be rebuilt. It was an ambitious project, but not everybody was on the same page.
 
^^^

Here's the town's website address ...

http://www.greensburgks.org/

I just found it odd from the start that they decided to focus on green instead of both green and safe.

They still get a lot of press and volunteers.
 
I have my degree in meteorology. It is a fun profession, but an ever changing one as well. It is very easy to have your degree become obsolete if you don't keep up with the ever changing research and forecasting techniques. To our poster who is looking into it, you will need to excel at calculus/statistics/physics/and your mind will have to wrap around some heavy theories. Also most places that hire meteorologists will want you to have a minor in computer science and certification in java and html. Trust me. Also broadcast meteorology is a bit of a joke- television stations love ratings and thus the big ones in big markets love their weather departments to really hype things even when it doesn't look like a major event. This gives the profession a bad name at times. And most of the weekend weather folks on t.v. don't have a meteorology degree and it shows.
 
justndav said:
I have my degree in meteorology. It is a fun profession, but an ever changing one as well. It is very easy to have your degree become obsolete if you don't keep up with the ever changing research and forecasting techniques. To our poster who is looking into it, you will need to excel at calculus/statistics/physics/and your mind will have to wrap around some heavy theories. Also most places that hire meteorologists will want you to have a minor in computer science and certification in java and html. Trust me. Also broadcast meteorology is a bit of a joke- television stations love ratings and thus the big ones in big markets love their weather departments to really hype things even when it doesn't look like a major event. This gives the profession a bad name at times. And most of the weekend weather folks on t.v. don't have a meteorology degree and it shows.
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Don't forget you have to dress up as a clown, host bowling and golf tournaments, make silly images of yourself on the weathercast and do all sorts of other crazy things.

Most of the male weathermen in my major city are gay.

One has his dogs with him many evenings, one pronounces snow and "sneeewww", one tells you to grab your bike helmet as you head to the basement for a tornado warning.

TV weatherman are fun in the central USA.
 
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