Ground Zero Mosque -- Should it Be Built?

[palemale]

Should New York City or any other government entity forbid the group that intends to build a Muslim Community Center on property they own near ground zero from building it? If the answer is yes, under what legal authority should they do it?

I do not want to hear what you personally think the Muslim group should do, or whether they should voluntarily build it elsewhere, or whether government should help them find a more suitable sight.

My Opinion: Conservatives and Republicans are using this as yet another wedge issue to win votes. They do so by demonizing a select ethnic or religious group and whipping up public opposition to them. I have seen no reports that this group has ties to any violent and/or radical Islamic group bent on carrying out any terrorist acts, or any illegal activities whatsoever.

There is no legal basis to deny the group the right to build on the site. So what do the Conservative and Republicans hope to achieve except to whip up bigotry against Muslims in order to win votes?

 

[MercuryJones]

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The US has freedom of religion. There is no basis for any governmental entity to bar the building, and none for anyone else either.

Edit to add: I think since it;s not at ground zero, and it's not a mosque, your subject line is a little bit misleading.

 

[palemale]

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The US has freedom of religion. There is no basis for any governmental entity to bar the building, and none for anyone else either.

Edit to add: I think since it;s not at ground zero, and it's not a mosque, your subject line is a little bit misleading.

I guess it is a little misleading, but that is what it is being called and a mosque will be part of the center I understand.

 

[laikaNYC]

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So what do the Conservative and Republicans hope to achieve except to whip up bigotry against Muslims in order to win votes?

Are you kidding? Imam Feisal refuses to denounce Hamas, he blamed us for 9/11. We still do not have a clue where the funding is coming from.

Harry Reid came out against the Ground Zero Mosque today. Is he whipping up bigotry against Muslims too? Another issue where liberals pull the race card. So worn out, guys. Try something new.

Harry Reid weighs in on NY mosque

54% of Democrats also oppose it too. But oh no, palemale makes no mention of this. He would much rather make this an issue of left versus right, when it clearly is not. Another lame attempt by the left to demonize those who don't see eye-to-eye with them.

Overwhelming majority oppose mosque near ground zero

 

[desmond]

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Are you kidding? Imam Feisal refuses to denounce Hamas, he blamed us for 9/11. We still do not have a clue where the funding is coming from.

Harry Reid came out against the Ground Zero Mosque today. Is he whipping up bigotry against Muslims too? Another issue where liberals pull the race card. So worn out, guys. Try something new.

Harry Reid weighs in on NY mosque

54% of Democrats also oppose it too. But oh no, palemale makes no mention of this. It's just those evil bigoted Republicans right? The cause behind all of your problems. Another lame attempt by the left to demonize those who don't see eye-to-eye with them.

Overwhelming majority oppose mosque near ground zero

What does religious freedom mean to you?

 

[laikaNYC]

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What does religious freedom mean to you?

Respect the sensitivity of the victim's families and build it someplace else.

 

[klopij]

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Edit: the community center will in fact contain a mosque in addition to other recreational and meeting spaces.

Although I usually agree with the right, on this one I have to disagree, the constitution grants religious freedom to everyone, regardless.

However, the imam that is in charge does not have a squeaky clean record. He has refused to condemn Hammas as a terrorist organization and there are sound bytes of him after 9/11 saying that the US was partially to blame for the attack.

That being said, I think the mosque is a slap in the face to Americans and peaceful Muslims but the government and no group has no right to shut it down.

 

[desmond]

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Respect the sensitivity of the victim's families and build it someplace else.

Just the Christian families, not the Moslem families?

 

[Serenx55]

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Well I will have to admit this is an ambiguous situation. My personal disposition is non-existent at this time. I personally think that if they want to build a mosque then by all means go for it. Now do I think that it possess good tact? No.
The end result is that the mosque will be a target and cause a lot of dispute. Muslim-Americans will in the end will greatly suffer because of this as it will create dispute within the masses of whom will turn their rage towards them.

 

[MercuryJones]

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I guess it is a little misleading, but that is what it is being called and a mosque will be part of the center I understand.

Not wishing to haggle, but it actually isn't a mosque at all. It's a community center that includes a prayer center, which is itself not a mosque.

There has been a modest little Islamic center in the neighborhood for as long as the WTC was there, and since 911. There are also churches and a synagogue. There are also boarded up storefronts and lingerie shops, and I would expect you could buy some porn there too. Some hallowed ground.

All that said, I don't think the question is should it be built, but should it be anyone's business.

It's funny to see the bigots who claim to be pro-freedom of religion and pro-private property spazz out.

 

[palemale]

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Are you kidding? Imam Feisal refuses to denounce Hamas, he blamed us for 9/11. We still do not have a clue where the funding is coming from.

Harry Reid came out against the Ground Zero Mosque today. Is he whipping up bigotry against Muslims too? Another issue where liberals pull the race card. So worn out, guys. Try something new.

Harry Reid weighs in on NY mosque

54% of Democrats also oppose it too. But oh no, palemale makes no mention of this. He would much rather make this an issue of left versus right, when it clearly is not. Another lame attempt by the left to demonize those who don't see eye-to-eye with them.

Overwhelming majority oppose mosque near ground zero

Answer the question I asked please. Can't you read? Do you think the Muslim group should be prohibited from building?

Harry Reid is being opportunistic because he's afraid he'll lose the election if he were to appear to be in opposition to the Republican and Conservative bigots.

 

[MoltenRock III]

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It amazes me that faux-conservatives wrap themselves in the US flag and whine about trampling on the Constitution, but wipe their asses with the Constitution as soon as they can use it as a hate issue. It disgusts me! These people hate America and are trying to destroy the racial and religious harmony we have achieved in the past 100+ years. These fake-conservatives claim they want a smaller government that stays out of the way, while out of the other side of their mouths they demand the government step in and "do something" to stop it. What a damn joke!

Penis Limbaugh doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about, nor cares, just so long as he can stoke hate. Earlier today he claims the Japanese were Hindu, and pissed his pants if "Hindus wanted to build a temple next to Pearl Harbor". The dumb shit didn't even realize Japanese then were not Hindus (nor are now). After a few minutes, and a caller berated him for being an idiot, he then said "Buddhist temple". No, it's Shintoism Addict Limbaugh. Gotta love the uneducated Pills Limbaugh showing his ignorance don't ya?

Here's his idiocy to listen to yourself: http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201008160016

 

[laikaNYC]

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It amazes me that faux-conservatives wrap themselves in the US flag and whine about trampling on the Constitution, but wipe their asses with the Constitution as soon as they can use it as a hate issue. It disgusts me! These people hate America and are trying to destroy the racial and religious harmony we have achieved in the past 100+ years. These fake-conservatives claim they want a smaller government that stays out of the way, while out of the other side of their mouths they demand the government step in and "do something" to stop it. What a damn joke!

Penis Limbaugh doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about, nor cares, just so long as he can stoke hate. Earlier today he claims the Japanese were Hindu, and pissed his pants if "Hindus wanted to build a temple next to Pearl Harbor". The dumb shit didn't even realize Japanese then were not Hindus (nor are now). After a few minutes, and a caller berated him for being an idiot, he then said "Buddhist temple". No, it's Shintoism Addict Limbaugh. Gotta love the uneducated Pills Limbaugh showing his ignorance don't ya?

Penis Limbaugh, Pills Limbaugh....

A grown man who obviously didn't get the memo in 5th grade that name calling doesnt help further your argument.

 

[laikaNYC]

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Answer the question I asked please. Can't you read? Do you think the Muslim group should be prohibited from building?

Harry Reid is being opportunistic because he's afraid he'll lose the election if he were to appear to be in opposition to the Republican and Conservative bigots.

It shouldn't be prohibited. They should just respect the victims families and build it someplace else.

Ohhhh, Harry is just being opportunistic, riiiiight. Just have an excuse for everything, don't you. God, how pathetic. Do you actually buy what you're trying to peddle? It couldn't just be that he's sticking up for the 9/11 families. God no, it couldn't be that. It's always the Republicans to blame for all of your troubles. Does it get frustrating being that one-sided?

 

[MoltenRock III]

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Answer the question I asked please. Can't you read? Do you think the Muslim group should be prohibited from building?

Harry Reid is being opportunistic because he's afraid he'll lose the election if he were to appear to be in opposition to the Republican and Conservative bigots.

Harry Reid is such a milquetoast POS it drives me crazy. I wish he would have had a Democratic primary challenge and lost.

But you have to love that Harry himself is a cultist being a Mormon, stating what another religion shouldn't be allowed to do. Mormons by in large act as if they are the singularly most persecuted religion on Earth because it fits their dogma and why they were forced out of Missouri to move to Utah.

 

[laikaNYC]

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By the way, you're ignoring the fact that the majority of Democrats don't want it there. Let's see what silly excuse you can make up to explain that. This is yet another instance in which Obama decides to go against the American public. His approval ratings will soon be in the 30's.

 

[laikaNYC]

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Ouch, another Democrat comes out against the Ground Zero Mosque. This time it's Congressman Jason Altmire from Pennsylvania.

http://www.pa2010.com/2010/08/altmire-offended-by-ground-zero-mosque/

Prepare to hear complete spin from a liberal in 4, 3, 2, 1...

 

[sixthson]

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Building the mosque there will guarantee no more terrorist attacts there.

 

[iman]

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Al Qaeda and some suicidal crazies attacked on 9/11, not the Islamic religion. Should we forbid churches in places where christians have committed horrific acts? It does not matter who the imam is, the state has no business subjecting a religious leader to a test for "right thinking".

If you believe the mosque/community center should be prohibited from building on private property at the location they choose, your living in the wrong country.

Someone should ask Harry Reid and all the Republicans how far away is an acceptable distance and should the bars, strip joints and falafel stands also be removed.

 

[palemale]

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The only poll, according to Nate Silver, to ask the right questions was FOX News. It asked first if people opposed the Muslim Community Center, than asked if they had the right to build it. Large majorities said that they had the right to build it. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/08/obama-defense-of-ground-zero-mosque.html

Why, then, are Republicans and Conservatives stoking anti-Muslim sentiment against it, if not to gain votes at the expense of Muslims? One more group they are alienating.