Ground Zero Mosque -- Should it Be Built?

[MoltenRock III]

Re: Ground Zero Mosque -- Should it Be Built

Personally, I find it hard to believe that Americans built a McDonalds in Hiroshima. Such a monument to US Imperialism on the hallowed ground where so many died is surely inappropriate.

LOL! Ain't that the truth.

I think conserva-nuts are just upset over the latest study that states Tower 3 won't be finished until 2030, with full occupancy by 2037. Tower 3 is the tallest of the structures being built. The other main tower won't be finished until 2017 according to latest estimates.

But hey, that Islamic community center will probably come and gone by the time the actual WTC site is back to "normal", some 36+ years after the attack.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/200...be_finished_until_36_years_after_911__pa.html

 

[laikaNYC]

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The only poll, according to Nate Silver, to ask the right questions was FOX News. It asked first if people opposed the Muslim Community Center, than asked if they had the right to build it. Large majorities said that they had the right to build it. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/08/obama-defense-of-ground-zero-mosque.html

Why, then, are Republicans and Conservatives stoking anti-Muslim sentiment against it, if not to gain votes at the expense of Muslims? One more group they are alienating.

I'm guessing you didn't click on the CNN link I provided you with. You're still ignoring the fact that even Democrats as a majority don't support this.

 

[desmond]

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How do you think that the 911 hijackers represent Islam? Does Timothy McVeigh represent all of Christianity?

 

[MercuryJones]

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How do you think that the 911 hijackers represent Islam?

And isn't it funny that our soldiers are dying in Iraq ostensibly to free and protect Muslims, but Muslims aren't supposed to have a community center in NYC?

 

[rareboy]

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Of course it should be built.

 

[CowboyBob]

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Why is this even an issue? It's more fake outrage from the right wing trying desperately to rally behind some issue. Stop wiping your ass with the constitution, Republicans.

 

[laikaNYC]

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Why is this even an issue? It's more fake outrage from the right wing trying desperately to rally behind some issue. Stop wiping your ass with the constitution, Republicans.

Bob, stop accusing 54% of your fellow Democrats of rallying behind a fake outrage issue! How rude!

 

[Seasoned]

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It's a no brainer. Build the fuckin thing or stop nation building to instill our value system. Can you imagine our country without the courts? Politicians are whores that live to get re-elected. Will one of you spineless bastards begin educating the stupid ass public as to what the Constitution stands for? We are a dumb ass nation and live by our emotions. It's time to grow up America.

Perhaps next time I won't hold back.

 

[Sausy]

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Governor David Paterson had the best idea....offering to help negotiate some land owned by the state a little farther away.Many families of 9-11 victims also want some kind of compromise.There are VERY legitimate funding issues,where is the money coming from to help the organization build the mosque?How responsible and "moderate" is this Imam?His associations aren't quite so innocent.Lots more has to play out though it would be commendable if a Paterson-inspired compromise is the result.

President Obama has backtracked from his more clear cut earlier endorsement of the mosque/Islamic center....tonight Senate Majority leader Reid also says it would be unwise to build at the currently proposed site near Ground Zero.Sensitivity should not be selectively applied to what is sacred to liberals.Virtually NO ONE save the fringiest elements on the right(liberals lie through their teeth and spout self serving propaganda very well,thank you regarding this)argues against Muslims having rights to worship,to build a mosque.It's about propriety,sensitivity and leadership in bringing the communities together and finding the most positive way towards finding common ground near Ground Zero.

 

[bankside]

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Should it be built? Of course not. It is money wasted on what could have been a hospital or a school or an art gallery.

Should it be prohibited? Of course not! People who have earned their money can waste it on stupid things if they want to.

 

[palemale]

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I'm guessing you didn't click on the CNN link I provided you with. You're still ignoring the fact that even Democrats as a majority don't support this.

Yes, I did click on the CNN link. It was irrelevant to the question I asked, the FOX News poll was not. Of course, trying to get you to read or think critically is an exercise in futility. So, do me a favor and go hijack someone else's thread.

 

[MercuryJones]

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Governor David Paterson had the best idea....offering to help negotiate some land owned by the state a little farther away.Many families of 9-11 victims also want some kind of compromise.

That's the worst idea. The government shouldn't be involved. And some 911 families oppose the building, some don't.

It's about propriety,sensitivity and leadership in bringing the communities together and finding the most positive way towards finding common ground near Ground Zero.

Propriety calls for us to defend the rights of all, even hated minorities.

If people thought this was special ground they could have bought it and preserved it, but they didn't. It's full of crap.

 

[desmond]

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So is the US a country with absolute freedom of religion?

 

[MercuryJones]

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So what do the Conservative and Republicans hope to achieve except to whip up bigotry against Muslims in order to win votes?

A secondary gain would be to whip the lunatic base into a lather by implying that the President is a secret Muslim for not preventing this.

 

[MoltenRock III]

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Governor David Paterson had the best idea....offering to help negotiate some land owned by the state a little farther away.

Well gee.... how far away does it need to be, than it's current 2 blocks away from the site? Is 3 blocks far enough? How about 4 blocks? What about the actual mosque already there within 4 blocks? Or the porn/strip joint 3 blocks away? Or is naked dancing and blowjobs ok within 3 blocks? Does it have to be on the upper East side? Or is that too close to Central Park?

Most people opposed to this haven't been to NYC in the first place much less even know the area. As if some moron from East Cupcake, Texass has a vote or an interest in what goes on in Manhattan.

It stuns me to my core, that any homos are opposed to this community center being built. My god, haven't we as a group been demonized enough by the very same people demonizing this stupid faux-mosque issue?

 

[laikaNYC]

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Yes, I did click on the CNN link. It was irrelevant to the question I asked, the FOX News poll was not. Of course, trying to get you to read or think critically is an exercise in futility. So, do me a favor and go hijack someone else's thread.

Ohhh somebody is getting feisty. Once again you've ignored the fact that the majority of Democrats agree that it shouldn't be built there

 

[Sausy]

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Building the mosque there will guarantee no more terrorist attacts there.

The ONLY practical reason if it must be located THERE,in the currently proposed location.Very cynical,though.Anything else is leftist diversity drivel.But really,the spirit DOES exist for a mutually workable compromise,if the intentions of those wanting to build the mosque/Islamic center is truly in the spirit of reconciliation and healing.

 

[andysayshi]

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Some nations could argue that Imperialism and brutality makes the US a "raging invader". My point simply illustrated that everything can be viewed from different angles.

It all comes back to the same thing: is the USA truly the "Land Of The Free" or not? Are millions of US Moslems to be penalised for the actions of a small group of extremists? What are the boundaries of those penalties? What distance is okay? How much time until the ban is lifted?

See, I thought countries like Saudi Arabia were barbaric to restrict religious freedom. But apparently it's okay in a land that claims Democracy and Freedom as it's cornerstones as well...?

 

[nip/tug]

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Muslims are not terrorists. terrorists are terrorists. I am really baffled why this is such on issue.

 

[CoolBlue71]

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Ground Zero Mosque -- Should it Be Built


…Yes. (Before opening this thread, I was expecting a poll.)