This is too much.
^ true, but the porn was already in existence before JLY had it handed to him.
Fascinating how you accept and encourage Joe's superior/victim personality trait, which has been very damaging to him and will continue to damage him if he doesn't change it. All you're doing is helping him continue to bring pain into his life.
By your characterization, Joe "had [child porn] handed to him." Is Joe a quadraplegic, sitting helplessly paralyzed while someone forces child porn into his hands, onto his computer?
No. Joe received the child porn from his friend. Joe chose that friend and somewhere along the line there was reason to know that was a bad choice -- probably before, but certainly the moment the friend offered him a disc of child porn. And aside from that, receiving is an action that requires decision and Joe decided to accept the child porn, put child porn in his computer, watch child porn, and keep and store child porn. Joe is responsible for all those choices. He's not a victim, he's not superior to the friend who gave him child porn; Joe is an adult who received, watched and decided to keep child porn. That's what happened, no matter how superior/victim Joe spins it, seduces you into believing his victimization and getting your sympathy or you decide to defend his bad choices.
He was not involved in making the porn in any way. It was as stupid decision to keep it, but hindsight is usually 20/20 (or at least better than foresight).
Hindsight, when being caught with kiddie porn, is often laced with lies. It's interesting you accept at face value Joe's story of victimization, especially since he's played the superior/victim routine here before. He's also defended lying and cheating here before.
In a recently revived thread about a college student bilking his parents out of more than $400 that he'd led them to believe he needed for books, Joe defended the college student who lied to and cheated his parents. The student had given his parents a list of books he needed and the price he'd have to pay for them, they responded by sending him the money he asked for. He found the books cheaper and pocketed the $400 difference. He's also described as, "Plus he's a total mooch who never chips in for pizza but eats a slice." The student is a user, a liar, a cheater. Joe's response was:
Meh... im of the opinion that fair play to him.
When you guys get into the real world you'll see that this isnt stealing - its called using common sense.
More "boohoo" to this dudes parents for not doing their research first. ... His parents had this coming if they dont shop around ...
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145961
Joe appears to believe the kid's parents, who're paying his tuition and all his college costs already,
deserve to be lied to and cheated because they trusted him and didn't "shop around" to see if the books could be found cheaper. The way this man thinks, it's not only ok to cheat and lie to people who trust him and help him, they
deserve it or "have it coming."
I think a real friend who wants what's best for Joe would call him out on his bullshit and help him make better choices.
If there are to be penalties for kidporn,
IF there are to be penalties for kidporn???
the penalties should apply at the point of its ORIGINAL PRODUCTION, FIRST INTERNET OFFERING OR FIRST SALE, only.
Are you nuts?
If child porn manages to elude the authorities past original production, first internet offering or first sale, it's okey dokey? What the hell kind of criteria is that? You seem to think there's nothing wrong with child porn, only in producing it. Maybe you missed the memo, Sigmund, but adults who lust after children have something wrong with them and a lot of them don't draw the line at looking.
And I'll tell you something else. It's not just about protecting children or punishing pedophiles. Adults who lust for children are not happy well adjusted people. A friend ought to help him try to understand what that inappropriate response is about and how to deal with it in a way that won't harm others and will make his own life a happier place for him to live in. People who defend a friend when he doesn't deserve it are only helping him continue the unhappiness he makes in his life -- and the lives of others.
Any further penalties are using a very blunt instrument which catches far too many people, including those who may be no more than marginally curious, or even those who may possess it entirely in error.
Are you kidding with this?
People don't possess kiddie porn "in error." They possess it because they like looking at it. People who see kiddie porn and think, "there's something wrong with that," don't keep it.
. Hey! i know, we should all wish criminals good luck and offer sympathy because "don't judge lest you be judged" or whatever that [STRIKE]hobo[/STRIKE] messiah said.
