Happy July 4th?

[cityboy-stl]

Sounds like he gave a listen to Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring."

Rite of Spring was first performed in 1913.

 

[cityboy-stl]

You've captured my feelings as well.

If Great Britain doesn't take returns . . . does the Russian Army take requests?

I don't understand the Russian Army reference. I certainly wouldn't want them around here.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Sounds like he gave a listen to Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring."

Rite of Spring was first performed in 1913.

Apt comparisons.

Ives was composing the suite of movements for over a decade before 1913, so the currents of dissonance that were flowing around Ives and the Russians are recognizable.

When Ives began, as most of the big reformers, he began more conservatively and then moved out from there. And, throughout, he continued to base his unfamilar harmonizations on familiar and favorite tunes and hymns.

Whether or not, as one has commented, he sounds avant garde to our ears or not, he most certainly did to the ears of the early 20th century audience.

An interesting article from yore: https://www.nytimes.com/1964/05/24/archives/charles-ives-after-55-years-still-avantgarde.html

Amazing man. Amazing music. I had no idea when I lived in Danbury that Ives was from there. In my brief time there, the local history never came up, and I was inundated with transitioning my work under very stressful circumstances. My loss.

 

[unloadonme]

Does Great Britain take returns?

No thank you.

 

[gsdx]

^ Tell me about it. They keep wanting us to take back Justin Bieber and William Shatner.

 

[Alistair]

^ Tell me about it. They keep wanting us to take back Justin Bieber and William Shatner.

Don’t forget Elon. We don’t want him either.

 

[rareboy]

Sorry, Canada doesn't even remotely claim Elon.

 

[gsdx]

Don’t forget Elon. We don’t want him either.

I didn't even know he was Canadian.

Oh, wait. He isn't. He's South African.

 

[Alistair]

I didn't even know he was Canadian.

Oh, wait. He isn't. He's South African.

He holds Canadian citizenship. His mother was from Saskatchewan

 

[smokeshadow]

It's a red, white and blue thing

 

[LoveMyPeppermill]

(Musk) holds Canadian citizenship. His mother was from Saskatchewan

Still, he's an Afrikaner.

Pigface, he's yours. Take him back.

 

[LoveMyPeppermill]

A thoughtful essay.

https://steady.substack.com/p/happy-fourth?r=osxgg&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

"That people like Frederick Douglass, and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. a century later, should seek to narrow the chasm between our aspiration and our reality is as much a part of July 4 as faded words on parchment.

"And that could be a guide for us today. We, as individuals and as a people, can choose not to let those who will divide us define this day. We can choose not to let those who seek to disassemble our progress determine our path forward; not to allow the forces of intolerance, autocracy, and lawlessness to claim our star-spangled banner.

"The United States of America is and always has been an idea more than a place. Yes, we are rooted in our past, but just as importantly, America is about the dreams of our future. I have borne witness to too much heroism and courage to not celebrate what this nation has been and can be in the future. I have seen it in battles in far-off wars and marches in our streets, on picket lines and in courthouses, in classrooms and community centers, in mass movements and quiet defiance."

 

[Alistair]

To put a happy spin on this thread

 

[pigface]

Still, he's an Afrikaner.

Pigface, he's yours. Take him back.

Oddly enough, nobody here speaks of him with pride, as if he is a quality representative of our culture.

 

[cityboy-stl]

 

[Vannie]

Macy's Fireworks are doing some kind of Tina Turner tribute this year I heard.

 

[LoveMyPeppermill]

Macy's Fireworks are doing some kind of Tina Turner tribute this year I heard.

"Rollin' on the (East) River"

 

[rareboy]

 

[unloadonme]

"... the summit of sex - the pinnacle of masculine, feminine and neuter. Everything that he, she and it can ever want... a deadly, winking, sniggering, snuggling, chromium-plated, scent-impregnated, luminous, quivering, giggling, fruit-flavoured, mincing, ice-covered heap of mother love."

Liberace v Daily Mirror - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Thad1527]

Well, this thread started in 2022. We've at least made it through one more year.

I worked today but am off the 4th and 5th.